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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    giving people the beta for buying the expansion is lame.
    And why's that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Remember 3000 pages ago everyone was convinced this would be an Elemental expansion?
    Pretty doubtful "everyone" was convinced when we had such a strong Elemental presence in DF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    And why's that?
    You know why.
    Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    giving people the beta for buying the expansion is lame.
    Why? They're just paying more to fatigue themselves faster with the expansion.

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    Wow went to make a hot dog and when I got back Beta was downloaded. That was fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Pretty doubtful "everyone" was convinced when we had such a strong Elemental presence in DF.
    Everyone is code for posters who shall remain nameless. "Everyone" was right about the stormriders being Earthen tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Why? They're just paying more to fatigue themselves faster with the expansion.
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    And why's that?
    that's one of the reasons. basically tww is soft launching today. people are going to min max the crap out of it and are probably going to burned out before the actual release.

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    Lol my characters from the previous beta are still around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    that's one of the reasons. basically tww is soft launching today. people are going to min max the crap out of it and are probably going to burned out before the actual release.
    1. No, Beta is not a "soft-launch" of expansion. We literally have bunch of people playing it every pre-expansion, regardless of pre-order. Did MoP soft-lanuched due to Annual Pass Beta invites?
    2. That is other people problem if they allow themselves to get burned out during Beta.
    Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    that's one of the reasons. basically tww is soft launching today. people are going to min max the crap out of it and are probably going to burned out before the actual release.
    That's a them problem.

    I have no issues with it as long as they don't return here 2 weeks into launch complaining about how there's nothing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    That's a them problem.

    I have no issues with it as long as they don't return here 2 weeks into launch complaining about how there's nothing to do.
    You know they will, but hey, that's what the ignore function is for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    that's one of the reasons. basically tww is soft launching today. people are going to min max the crap out of it and are probably going to burned out before the actual release.
    That's the level of testing a game needs so the launch isn't full of bugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    1. No, Beta is not a "soft-launch" of expansion. We literally have bunch of people playing it every pre-expansion, regardless of pre-order. Did MoP soft-lanuched due to Annual Pass Beta invites?
    2. That is other people problem if they allow themselves to get burned out during Beta.
    it is a soft launch tho. the only thing missing is the seasonal content. you can experience quests and everything else tho. also, this time more people have access to it because people can actually buy access to the beta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    That's the level of testing a game needs so the launch isn't full of bugs.
    that's the level of testing WOW NEEDS because blizzard doesn't want to pay for qa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    it is a soft launch tho. the only thing missing is the seasonal content. you can experience quests and everything else tho. also, this time more people have access to it because people can actually buy access to the beta
    Ye well, I just remembered that you are the guy who kept arguing that M+ population is so down despite having data thrown in his face. So sure. This is soft-launch and peeps will get burned. TWW is fucked.
    Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    that's the level of testing WOW NEEDS because blizzard doesn't want to pay for qa
    Why pay for what you can get for free?
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    it is a soft launch tho. the only thing missing is the seasonal content. you can experience quests and everything else tho. also, this time more people have access to it because people can actually buy access to the beta
    ...and your characters not being deleted periodically?

    The Beta currently is full & queued just to tell you no servers online when you get in: We are so back, baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    that's one of the reasons. basically tww is soft launching today. people are going to min max the crap out of it and are probably going to burned out before the actual release.
    It's really, really not. They get a *lot* of people testing, which will hopefully enable for a smoother launch. They did the same with MoP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    You know why.
    Because the micro-penis exclusive beta club people can't boast for cloat. Gotcha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    it is a soft launch tho. the only thing missing is the seasonal content.
    "its only missing the bulk of the content!"

    not to mention many months of class tuning, profession updates, item tweaks, environment updates, UI improvements, bug fixes, hero talent VFX improvements, etc etc.

    but yeah, totally a soft launch. you just sound bitter because you didnt buy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    but yeah, totally a soft launch. you just sound bitter because you didnt buy it
    Ey mon! He be protectin himself form the burnout!
    Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Ye well, I just remembered that you are the guy who kept arguing that M+ population is so down despite having data thrown in his face. So sure. This is soft-launch and peeps will get burned. TWW is fucked.
    I never said that (and i'm not gonna start that argument again). also, what's your point? do you think i'm just "dooming"? people min maxing everything before the expansion is even out is bad. yeah, we have the ptr (and i don't mind about that), but this goes beyond that.

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    Others gettin' the "No realms are currently available" thing?

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    Nvm, don't think servers are ready yet?

  20. #70920
    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    "its only missing the bulk of the content!"

    not to mention many months of class tuning, profession updates, item tweaks, environment updates, UI improvements, bug fixes, hero talent VFX improvements, etc etc.

    but yeah, totally a soft launch. you just sound bitter because you didnt buy it
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Ey mon! He be protectin himself form the burnout!
    I'm not protecting myself from anything.

    1) i never preorder anything
    2) i only do seasonal content

    I'm just against splitting the playerbase even more.

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