1. #70921
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    I'm not protecting myself from anything.

    1) i never preorder anything
    2) i only do seasonal content

    I'm just against splitting the playerbase even more.
    So, you're basically being a sad little troll? Maybe 4chan is more for you

  2. #70922
    Quote Originally Posted by DechCJC View Post
    Others gettin' the "No realms are currently available" thing?

    EDIT

    Nvm, don't think servers are ready yet?
    Neither the Beta/PTR build or servers are out yet. 11.0 is still on the last Alpha build and PTR is on 10.2.7 still.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Lol my characters from the previous beta are still around
    Beta servers are still down and also getting wiped, I think you are looking at 10.2.7 PTR.

  3. #70923
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    I'm just against splitting the playerbase even more.
    so youd rather the game have no public testing because you want more people to play with on whatever version you are currently playing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Beta servers are still down and also getting wiped, I think you are looking at 10.2.7 PTR.
    Maybe. Server is Anasterian and presented as Incompatible and I got there after the queue after choosing TWW Beta. Do we see ALL the In Development servers at once?

    Yup, they are all in the same queue and log in.

  5. #70925
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Maybe. Server is Anasterian and presented as Incompatible and I got there after the queue after choosing TWW Beta. Do we see ALL the In Development servers at once?
    Beta/PTR share the same realmlist, but Beta realms will be in the Beta realm category (or "Invalid Category" on the current Beta build) while PTRs are in their regular category. Anasterian is a PTR server.

  6. #70926
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    So, you're basically being a sad little troll? Maybe 4chan is more for you
    why are you people so aggressive? lol
    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    so youd rather the game have no public testing because you want more people to play with on whatever version you are currently playing?
    how did you reach that conclusion? 2 posts above i said i don't mind the game having a ptr. I just said i don't like giving people beta access with money because i know many are going to buy it (there is already a q on the beta realms) because blizzard is also giving them a 3 days early access on the actual release. do you think that's healthy for the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    do you think that healthy for the game?
    i dont think the 3 day early access is, but i think the beta portion is. it ensures people who actually wanna test the game will get beta. someone who spends 90 dollars on the pre order is more likely to test than any random person like they did in the past.

  8. #70928
    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    i dont think the 3 day early access is, but i think the beta portion is. it ensures people who actually wanna test the game will get beta. someone who spends 90 dollars on the pre order is more likely to test than any random person like they did in the past.
    I hope they will somehow remove mining/herb/skin materials from early access, that is last thing that could give edge over normal player (beside saving time for leveling). Still dick move of course, but as I said before, it's shitty industry standard that Blizzard help to spread.

  9. #70929
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    why are you people so aggressive? lol


    how did you reach that conclusion? 2 posts above i said i don't mind the game having a ptr. I just said i don't like giving people beta access with money because i know many are going to buy it (there is already a q on the beta realms) because blizzard is also giving them a 3 days early access on the actual release. do you think that's healthy for the game?
    Why are *you* people such nasty little trolls

  10. #70930
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    how did you reach that conclusion? 2 posts above i said i don't mind the game having a ptr. I just said i don't like giving people beta access with money because i know many are going to buy it (there is already a q on the beta realms) because blizzard is also giving them a 3 days early access on the actual release. do you think that's healthy for the game?
    It's extremely healthy for the game. Do you remember how broken SoD phase 3 & Alleria questline were because they didn't publicly test them? And the 3 day early access prevents the typical launch day clog.

  11. #70931
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Remember 3000 pages ago everyone was convinced this would be an Elemental expansion?
    Honestly I always thought that whole "using the past expansions to predict the upcoming ones" was on the dumb side of things. Real stretch to not consider Dragonflight at least partly an elemental expansion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    I'm guessing this got delayed to Midnight where the Scourge will return. They need a new DK intro for them and any new races introduced in that time.
    Ah that would be reasonable, good point.

  12. #70932
    Quote Originally Posted by doledippers View Post
    i dont think the 3 day early access is, but i think the beta portion is. it ensures people who actually wanna test the game will get beta. someone who spends 90 dollars on the pre order is more likely to test than any random person like they did in the past.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    It's extremely healthy for the game. Do you remember how broken SoD phase 3 & Alleria questline were because they didn't publicly test them? And the 3 day early access prevents the typical launch day clog.
    they could have a longer beta (like they did in the past), they could hire more people to test the game, etc. blizz choose the cheapest solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    Why are *you* people such nasty little trolls
    take your meds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Remember 3000 pages ago everyone was convinced this would be an Elemental expansion?
    Remember 3000 pages ago when everyone refused to believe the expansion was going to take place underground and that Thrall was going to be a big part of it?

  14. #70934
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    they could have a longer beta (like they did in the past), they could hire more people to test the game, etc. blizz choose the cheapest solution.
    There is no point to doing those things. People clearly want to test the game for free: They're not being coerced into doing it. Any damage to the culture of the community is only in your imagination.

  15. #70935
    Man the PTR being bait (for now) is sad. Really wanted to get on and test some of the reworked classes to help determine a main. Hopefully its up in not too long tho.

  16. #70936
    I could not give a shit, let alone 2 shits, about "player testing" the beta, burnout, lack of QA, or splitting the player base. Early access to content via pre-orders is one of Blizzard's MO's for quite some time now. People do not have to agree, and people can choose not to participate.

    I, however, will choose to.

  17. #70937
    I remember one person here was dead set on the Algarian Stormrider being a jaina-Dazar-alor style elemental mount

    First people thought it was pirates, then elementals

    I was always on "Dwarf expac" since day one though and glad it turned out that way

    (Im not biased I swear)

  18. #70938
    Quote Originally Posted by Reive View Post
    they could have a longer beta (like they did in the past), they could hire more people to test the game, etc. blizz choose the cheapest solution.



    take your meds
    You're the one that needs medicating honey xoxo

  19. #70939
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    There is no point to doing those things. People clearly want to test the game for free: They're not being coerced into doing it. Any damage to the culture of the community is only in your imagination.
    I'd love to see some sort of data about the mysterious "community" anyways. From my PoV as someone in their 30s, the concept of meeting strangers in games and being community is kinda dead. Community is whatever you want it to be now. A lot of people bring their outside friends into a game like WoW. I know some people might meet as individuals in guilds but then it turns into a friend group that proceeds to play other stuff together and becomes an outside friend situation. So I'm just not seeing why everyone needs to slapped together on the same boat like it makes a difference. Are we worried about matchmaking? Is that the issue? I just don't understand what this "community" is supposed to be if people already play the game with their friends anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Looks too close to paladins which we already have.
    Which is the huge problem with Draenei tech in general, and why I don't think it's going to be part of the technology class.

    If you're going to go backpack, have stuff that isn't weapons players are already wielding. Flamethrowers, buzzsaws, rayguns, Dr. Octopus arms, etc.
    I don't think we need to rebuild everything here. We simply need to utilize a derivative of the WC3 claw pack works just fine. Artist Author Lorenz did that perfectly here;


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