
why are you people so aggressive? lol
how did you reach that conclusion? 2 posts above i said i don't mind the game having a ptr. I just said i don't like giving people beta access with money because i know many are going to buy it (there is already a q on the beta realms) because blizzard is also giving them a 3 days early access on the actual release. do you think that's healthy for the game?

I hope they will somehow remove mining/herb/skin materials from early access, that is last thing that could give edge over normal player (beside saving time for leveling). Still dick move of course, but as I said before, it's shitty industry standard that Blizzard help to spread.


Honestly I always thought that whole "using the past expansions to predict the upcoming ones" was on the dumb side of things. Real stretch to not consider Dragonflight at least partly an elemental expansion.
Ah that would be reasonable, good point.

Man the PTR being bait (for now) is sad. Really wanted to get on and test some of the reworked classes to help determine a main. Hopefully its up in not too long tho.
I could not give a shit, let alone 2 shits, about "player testing" the beta, burnout, lack of QA, or splitting the player base. Early access to content via pre-orders is one of Blizzard's MO's for quite some time now. People do not have to agree, and people can choose not to participate.
I, however, will choose to.
I remember one person here was dead set on the Algarian Stormrider being a jaina-Dazar-alor style elemental mount
First people thought it was pirates, then elementals
I was always on "Dwarf expac" since day one though and glad it turned out that way
(Im not biased I swear)


I'd love to see some sort of data about the mysterious "community" anyways. From my PoV as someone in their 30s, the concept of meeting strangers in games and being community is kinda dead. Community is whatever you want it to be now. A lot of people bring their outside friends into a game like WoW. I know some people might meet as individuals in guilds but then it turns into a friend group that proceeds to play other stuff together and becomes an outside friend situation. So I'm just not seeing why everyone needs to slapped together on the same boat like it makes a difference. Are we worried about matchmaking? Is that the issue? I just don't understand what this "community" is supposed to be if people already play the game with their friends anyways.
Which is the huge problem with Draenei tech in general, and why I don't think it's going to be part of the technology class.
I don't think we need to rebuild everything here. We simply need to utilize a derivative of the WC3 claw pack works just fine. Artist Author Lorenz did that perfectly here;If you're going to go backpack, have stuff that isn't weapons players are already wielding. Flamethrowers, buzzsaws, rayguns, Dr. Octopus arms, etc.
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