Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Xilurm]

The stuff Ion says in this video at 2:40 and then at 3:20 make me glad they are actually taking a step back when it comes to which classes should be allowed for what races. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason why Earthen can't be DK's in beta anymore.

Them actually caring about the narrative and themes of certain race/class combos is really good news. At the end of the day this game is also an RPG that has a lore that's been built for the past few decades.

They shouldn't just give every class to every race even if it doesn't make sense because some people that couldn't care less about the world and the lore just wanna log in and do their mythic run and log out and not care about the game or its world pass that.

[huth]

The seamless transition in Zaralek usually has a boulder/wall at the end of the tunnel going in for me. And it takes about a second for it to despawn. It actually slows me down if it collide with it, so it's a physical asset that doesn't despawn/phase out in quick enough, it would seem.

Worse, sometimes it just doesn't load right and you're stuck in a weird state of not being in either zone and have no choice but to close WoW and restart.

[Lady Atia]

The stuff Ion says in this video at 2:40 and then at 3:20 make me glad they are actually taking a step back when it comes to which classes should be allowed for what classes. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason why Earthen can't be DK's in beta anymore.

Them actually caring about the narrative and themes of certain race/class combos is really good news. At the end of the day this game is also an RPG that has a lore that's been built for the past few decades.

They shouldn't just give every class to every race even if it doesn't make sense because some people that couldn't care less about the world and the lore just wanna log in and do their mythic run and log out and not care about the game or its world pass that.

Nope, sorry but no dk's for earthen is bullshit. We know they have souls and you can use necromancy to re-animate constructs, the scourge did it back in Warcraft III.

[huth]

which classes should be allowed for what classes.

*whisper* races. Races.

[Nymrohd]

Very happy they will actually do the work and give a reason for more class/race combos.

Why not Dracthyr Druid though? They can channel the green flight's skills

[Khaza-R]

The stuff Ion says in this video at 2:40 and then at 3:20 make me glad they are actually taking a step back when it comes to which classes should be allowed for what classes. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason why Earthen can't be DK's in beta anymore.

Them actually caring about the narrative and themes of certain race/class combos is really good news. At the end of the day this game is also an RPG that has a lore that's been built for the past few decades.

They shouldn't just give every class to every race even if it doesn't make sense because some people that couldn't care less about the world and the lore just wanna log in and do their mythic run and log out and not care about the game or its world pass that.

I don't know that I would sing them any praises because it feels more like laziness than anything.

I am entirely convinced that "all classes, all races" really meant they were going to approach it in the most generic sense possible by not doing race specific customizations and just adding generic assets as a one-size fits all solution. But it was after there was some backlash of them adding generic NPCs and combos with no explanation they backtracked from the idea alltogther. So idk how much they care about the lore. I think they just don't want to put in the extra work the community is looking for.

[Xilurm]

Nope, sorry but no dk's for earthen is bullshit. We know they have souls and you can use necromancy to re-animate constructs, the scourge did it back in Warcraft III.

But who's going to raise them? This is after Shadowlands. Bolvar isn't there anymore.

TLT would be a good time to give them DK's given we're going back to Northrend.

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*whisper* races. Races.

Oops. I wrote "what races for which classes" first but it didn't feel right, so I tried changing it but forgot to change the 2nd classes to races.

[Nymrohd]

Horde players somehow mad they aren't the main character.
Jaina's cool. I'll take that over Saurfang and Sylvanas's cinematic adventures and what happened in Warlords.

Here is the thing, Jaina has no story.
Alleria has to be there, she was pretty much reintroduced in Legion as our go to for Void themes.
Magni and his family make sense; Magni ties with Azeroth and you'd want a dwarf to talk with the Earthen.
Anduin is the better option for interaction with the Arathi. You want a Human who has ties with the Light and Anduin just makes more sense since he has an ongoing story that works great with the Arathi (and even better with Faerin)

But what about Jaina? Is it because of Dalaran? Jaina is not part of the Council of Six anymore. She also has not character arc at the moment. Pretty much every one of her arcs has been resolved with BfA.
Same thing with Thrall but apparently they forgot they resolved him reconnecting with the elements back in SL. Can't blame them I am trying to forget SL too and unlike them, I was not drunk for most of it.

[Teriz]

Ugh. It's despicable how they bowed to pressure from a vocal minority to make Dracthyr open to other classes. Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

[Xilurm]

Ugh. It's despicable how they bowed to pressure from a vocal minority to make Dracthyr open to other classes. Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

I assume most people will play as Visage mostly.

[Civciv]

Earthens should be given Druid class, they have druids on Khaz'Algar

[Nymrohd]

Earthens should be given Druid class, they have druids on Khaz'Algar

Really? Where? What forms do they use?

[Teriz]

I assume most people will play as Visage mostly.

Yeah, and that completely defeats the purpose of rolling a dracthyr in the first place. I even hear people saying they want Evokers to stay in visage form 100% of the time. At least this might stop that stupidity from being discussed, but I doubt it.

[Ersula]

Ugh. It's despicable how they bowed to pressure from a vocal minority to make Dracthyr open to other classes. Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

If it doesn't make sense for Earthen to be Death Knights, how tf does it make sense that they have Dracthyr & Earthen Monks? The Celestials are man-made gods, created by the Pandaran. WoW Monks are even more specific than Death Knights.

[Sondrelk]

Ugh. It's despicable how they bowed to pressure from a vocal minority to make Dracthyr open to other classes. Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

I'll happily take the whining if it increases the odds that the developers actually makes the smart move and starts adding transmog options.

There is no good reason why chest, leg, and hand pieces don't show. And while cloaks are out of the question, the option for helms and boots are not more complicated than they would be for Worgen for instance.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Really? Where? What forms do they use?

Not on the beta (collectors editions woes) but I’ve seen a few things about how there are ones using nature magic and wanting to be closer to nature when they die, nothing about forms though.

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If it doesn't make sense for Earthen to be Death Knights, how tf does it make sense that they have Dracthyr & Earthen Monks? The Celestials are man-made gods, created by the Pandaran. WoW Monks are even more specific than Death Knights.

The Celestials are wild gods they were made by Fryea not the Pandaren with the only “man” made wild gods being trolls like Bomb or Vul’jin.

While worship of them would be dubious they would predate the Dracthyr and Mabye the earthen.

[Xilurm]

If it doesn't make sense for Earthen to be Death Knights, how tf does it make sense that they have Dracthyr & Earthen Monks? The Celestials are man-made gods, created by the Pandaran. WoW Monks are even more specific than Death Knights.

Didn't they have monks travel all over the place in MoP and that's why the other races can become Monks?

[Ersula]

The Celestials are wild gods they would have been made by Fryea not the Pandaren with the only “man” made wild gods being trolls like Bomb or Vul’jin.

While worship of them would be dubious they would predate the Dracthyr and Mabye the earthen.

That must be a Chronicles retcon, because in remix you can do the questline right now when they explain they were created when the first Emperor channeled their essence into jade statues.

Not to mention early on in the beta there's a quest describing how deeply the Earthen hate freya. The Freysworn predate the player Earthen. The same mentality not letting them be druids should pertain to monks.

Imagine if there were sunshafts in the Zaralek Cavern ceiling that you could fly through to the Plains above:

But you all understand why that can't work with the current loading technology, yes? How much speculation are we wasting on things that are literally impossible?

[Zardas]

Now there's going to be nothing but more complaining about clipping, transmog, and other crap from the crybabies.

If they want the complains to stop, they should fixe those issues.

[Nightshade711]

I'll happily take the whining if it increases the odds that the developers actually makes the smart move and starts adding transmog options.

There is no good reason why chest, leg, and hand pieces don't show. And while cloaks are out of the question, the option for helms and boots are not more complicated than they would be for Worgen for instance.

Agreed. I think the only reason they don’t have transmog is due to the 4 body sizes.

Ion mentioned it would be a lot of work to manually map armor to each of the 4 - but they’ve recently announced they’re using machine learning to do that very thing… which Dracthyr are the only race right now it would apply to at the moment.

But yeah, cloaks are the only armor piece that I think would need to be hidden. The rest could follow the Worgen rules.