Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Thomir]

lack of features???
compared to DF???

can somebpdy translate because i think i played a different game

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void class and light class
"but priest and pally"
void knight
light weaver

Hero talents.

[Raetary]

A double class reveal would be pretty cool, but i'd rather have a standalone 3 spec void class.

The Void is the one power that desperately lacks representation in gameplay, with Shadow being the only spec that uses it (and discipline too, but only partially).

[Hitei]

A double class reveal would be pretty cool, but i'd rather have a stabdalone 3 spec void class.

The Void is the one power that desperately lacks representation in gameplay, with Shadow being the only spec that uses it (and discipline too, but only partially).

Sub also very much leans into it, but yes.

[Kiivar86]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post54309253

The first post in this thread, I assume- a Spanish content creator claims that a dev slipped up and told his team that there would be more than 1 new class during the Saga. No source beyond his word, so you'll have to judge for yourself if it's worth considering.

I have a hard time seeing that happening given that it'd mean getting two classes in consecutive expansions in Midnight and TLT, but there's a first time for everything. The most plausible possibilities would be a Void class in Midnight and a Titan tech class in TLT.

Ah gotcha, that's why I missed it, then.

It is a bit hard to believe at times but also that as you say, first time for everything.

[Lady Atia]

Undermine Raid for 11.1.

Gallywix's cartoonish quest for wealth abudance and power leads him to foolishly making deals with Xal'atath. Whatever trade cartel he's running at the time (maybe Venture Co?) will be tasked with either drilling further into the Coreway/Heart of Azeroth, or mining an insane amount of Azerite/Kaja'mite (Old God blood?) to be used towards Xal'atath's gambit for the worldsoul. All of this via Undermine and maybe the Isle of Kezan.

I think maybe to double down on the theme we would see some mixture of Goblin and Shadowguard Ethereal technology being used here. Maybe even some renegade broker cartels, although unlikely due to the push for separation from Shadowlands lately.

If done well, I think it could be a fun patch, although on surface level with little to no knowledge other than some story hints, it does feel like it should be a megadungeon.

Well, people liked the Brokers and we saw Gallywix in Tazavesh, so some of them would make sense in Undermine.

[Alanar]

This is a time of resolutions and ultimatums.

If you don't get dark ranger in Shadowlands, you are NEVER getting dark ranger.

This one wins, because it was said!

Bis and lol.

[Lady Atia]

I won't accept them as Night Elf-esque Druids who turn into actual fluffy bears or cats or wooden trees or wield Emerald Dream magic. They should be their own thing lorewise like Sunwalkers (NOT light worshipping paladins, but instead fire shamans/sun worshipping druids who wear plate armor) but classed as Druid mechanically rather than making a completely brand new class that is 90% similar to a preexisting one. Lorewise they could use magic to reshape their earth/stone bodies into new shapes, like becoming some sort of stone creature for guardian form (may or may not reuse the bear skeleton like the Zandalari's turtle form).

Tbf, we already had stone bears with the legion artifact weapon.

[Dracullus]

lack of features???
compared to DF???

can somebpdy translate because i think i played a different game

Look how many features we had in SL: covenants, conduits, legendaries, soulbinds and these stones from hellhole in 9.1 (I don't even remember how it was called), nevermind "new patch new system" BfA. How weak DF look with profession, UI, flying and loot upgrade overhaul /s

[Hitei]

Tbf, we already had stone bears with the legion artifact weapon.

Earthen bear form should be a stone golem and the moonkin form should be a titan defense orb.

[Scyth]

I just did Priory of the Sacred Flame dungeon and love how it looks. Can't wait to see more of the Arathi, feels quite refreshing fighting Paladins tbh

[Teriz]

lack of features???
compared to DF???

can somebpdy translate because i think i played a different game

Are there features coming in TWW that I'm missing? Most of the features appear to be extensions of previous new features from DF: Hero talents off the new talent system, and Dynamic flying coming off of Dragonriding.

Also a single allied race isn't much compared to a new race/class that we got in DF.

void knight
light weaver

Those inclusions would be quite a departure from previous expansion classes.

[Nymrohd]

I just did Priory of the Sacred Flame dungeon and love how it looks. Can't wait to see more of the Arathi, feels quite refreshing fighting Paladins tbh

I just wish they didn't all wear that armor. It's such a gorgeous armor but it stops being special if every last NPC is wearing it.

[Auxis]

Ugh.

This definitely needs an off-switch.

What is that?

[Nymrohd]

What is that?

Night Elves are Illuminati confirmed.

[Makabreska]

What is that?

Oracle priest permanent effect.

[Scyth]

I just wish they didn't all wear that armor. It's such a gorgeous armor but it stops being special if every last NPC is wearing it.

Yeah that's true, will probably get tired of seeing by the 10th time I enter the dungeon lol

[KOUNTERPARTS]

With the hero talent system, with Blizzard leaning into specific class fantasies with it, do you think the next step is cosmetic appearance changes to spells/abilities dependent on your hero talent spec?

I have not tried out many of the different hero talent options yet, so I don't know a lot of different themes. An example I can think of at the top of my head: Holy Paladin going into the "Herald of the Sun" tree. Could we see something a long the lines of changing the visuals of the healing spells to have red/orange, fiery visuals instead of the normal Holy Light visuals?

This concept for all of the hero talent choices.

[Nymrohd]

So after finishing the leveling campaign I can say the nerubian are heavily carrying this xpac so far for me. The zones are gorgeous but traveling in them is quite annoying.

I know Warcraft cannot possibly deliver proper agency but the Hallowfall questline was just so weird while played by a human paladin carrying a sword made of a Naaru shard. Them acting as if I'm some exotic race, Anduin's storyline with not being able to help with Light channeling or with healing when I am right there, just no. The earthen are meh. Almost every NPC is just an exposition tool, they feel like they have no character. The only one who has any imo dies. The kobolds are cool but they are completely tertiary.

Also the questing experience is very cutscene heavy. There are very few interesting quests and instead it is all cutscenes. Which we cannot see. And I'd like to see them so I can give feedback on them so I hope they do show them at some point in the beta.

[Raetary]

What is that?

The permanent spell effect for Oracle Priests.

It's not bad looking per se, but god does it clash.

[Dracullus]

Last minute predictions for date?

Usually actual date is earlier than I think, so I'll stay with something that's just hunch from last few days: 30 July for pre-patch (system changes), 20th August pre-expansion event, 2nd September release (early access 30th August).