Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

I hope the pre-expansion event does a good job explaining what Alleria is going through cause every time she does something monumentally stupid (which is likely half the time she is on screen) I have to remember the short story.

[Dracullus]

I hope the pre-expansion event does a good job explaining what Alleria is going through cause every time she does something monumentally stupid (which is likely half the time she is on screen) I have to remember the short story.

Easy bet Alleria and Anduin will get their own shorts, first will contain constant void whispers, second about SL from Anduin POV and what happened after. I think also Thrall/Xalatath (but I'm less sure about it, maybe Xalatath will be in Allerias part). Jaina already got one, Magni is kinda boring.

[Ersula]

Last minute predictions for date?

Usually actual date is earlier than I think, so I'll stay with something that's just hunch from last few days: 30 July for pre-patch (system changes), 20th August pre-expansion event, 2nd September release (early access 30th August).

I think this is correct. And it gives Timerunning characters 2 weeks to do the pre-patch event since MoP Remix ends on 8/19

[Nymrohd]

Easy bet Alleria and Anduin will get their own shorts, first will contain constant void whispers, second about SL from Anduin POV and what happened after. I think also Thrall/Xalatath (but I'm less sure about it, maybe Xalatath will be in Allerias part). Jaina already got one, Magni is kinda boring.

Anduin's short story was really good so I just can excuse his behaviour on that. Alleria's was ok. Just ok. They should have gone much harder with the Void whispers.

[Raetary]

Mmm, we know that one of the shorts will be about the Nerubian queen.

So imma say that they will likely use them to showcase the setting rather than focus on our merry band.

- Rise of Queen whatever her name is
- Hallowfall expedition and establishment of Mereldar/Crystal going dark
- The construction of the Coreway and the rebellion against Dornic

[Foolicious]

A double class reveal would be pretty cool, but i'd rather have a standalone 3 spec void class.

The Void is the one power that desperately lacks representation in gameplay, with Shadow being the only spec that uses it (and discipline too, but only partially).

Even shadow priest has trouble keeping up with all the redesigns the void had over the years. Voidweaver gets a black hole, but shadow priest doesn't really lean into that cosmic horror theme the void has since df. I don't think shadow is bad or anything, but as the only void spec it tries to combine all the different void aesthetics which is a bit of a mess.

[Makabreska]

Even shadow priest has trouble keeping up with all the redesigns the void had over the years. Voidweaver gets a black hole, but shadow priest doesn't really lean into that cosmic horror theme the void has since df. I don't think shadow is bad or anything, but as the only void spec it tries to combine all the different void aesthetics which is a bit of a mess.

It seems that Blizz is making a global push of Void aesthetics towards this space-emptiness, black holes, silent stars reality shattering black and blues. I'm really preferring it, purple tentacles and madness overstayed it's welcome.

[Nymrohd]

Even shadow priest has trouble keeping up with all the redesigns the void had over the years. Voidweaver gets a black hole, but shadow priest doesn't really lean into that cosmic horror theme the void has since df. I don't think shadow is bad or anything, but as the only void spec it tries to combine all the different void aesthetics which is a bit of a mess.

Shadow priest took a weird turn with the DF redesign where the theme seemed to be Old God cultist. Which makes no sense; the Church of the Forgotten Shadow is about the Void, not about Old Gods (and there is no way to do cultist as anything but an antagonist; it just isn't a player theme). I do hope they take a hard turn to Void.
But again, Priest is the biggest trainwreck when it comes to themes out of all classes anyway.

[Chickat]

Are there features coming in TWW that I'm missing? Most of the features appear to be extensions of previous new features from DF: Hero talents off the new talent system, and Dynamic flying coming off of Dragonriding.

Also a single allied race isn't much compared to a new race/class that we got in DF.



Those inclusions would be quite a departure from previous expansion classes.

I just ses it as them shoring up the rest of the games systems. I can't think of many changes we need after this. Midnight will probably add more new stuff. Imo Midnight will be player housing plus a few allied races and TLT will be a new class plus allied races and maybe guild housing.

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Shadow priest took a weird turn with the DF redesign where the theme seemed to be Old God cultist. Which makes no sense; the Church of the Forgotten Shadow is about the Void, not about Old Gods (and there is no way to do cultist as anything but an antagonist; it just isn't a player theme). I do hope they take a hard turn to Void.
But again, Priest is the biggest trainwreck when it comes to themes out of all classes anyway.

Yeah i don't really like how any priest specs play anymore. I loved them in Cata/MoP. I miss old disc abd Shadow. Never cared for holy.

[Nymrohd]

Yeah i don't really like how any priest specs play anymore. I loved them in Cata/MoP. I miss old disc abd Shadow. Never cared for holy.

I like Holy. Holy has a very clear purpose. I don't at all understand how gameplay fits the theme; it is all about Holy Words and cycling through them but that feels like an Occult or Truenamer theme which is not related to the Holy Light at all. But it still feels well to play it, it just doesn't always have adequate numbers to justify the lack of utility. Everything they can do, someone can do better which is a problem.

But Shadow and Disc have no rhyme or reason.

[Nightshade711]

Theory, knowing Blizz.

The Last Titan isn’t Azeroth.
The Last Titan is Amitus, the climax of Midnight ends with the Seat of the Pantheon being destroyed by a manifested Dimensius and the forces of the void.
Then that’s when Amitus returns.

[Makabreska]

Theory, knowing Blizz.

The Last Titan isn’t Azeroth.
The Last Titan is Amitus, the climax of Midnight ends with the Seat of the Pantheon being destroyed by a manifested Dimensius and the forces of the void.

I still can't get over how some viodwalker-looking mob from BC is now a major cosmic threat. The cheesy name also does not help.

[Nymrohd]

I still can't get over how some viodwalker-looking mob from BC is now a major cosmic threat.

They do tell you in TBC he pretty much ate the entire planet in K'aresh. The crazy part is how he is defeated in TBC. I choose to interpret it as in we are just keeping him from manifesting, not actually fighting him. So more like, he had his toe through the door and we kicked it back.

[Nightshade711]

I still can't get over how some viodwalker-looking mob from BC is now a major cosmic threat. The cheesy name also does not help.

BC had a habit of relegating major planet destroying entities to dungeons… for some reason.

[Makabreska]

BC had a habit of relegating major planet destroying entities to dungeons… for some reason.

Well, first expansion, thrown in some random shit, didn't have any plan for the future involving cosmic stories. But still, it's jarring AF. Hope they will leave Murmur alone.

[SunspotAnims]

I like Holy. Holy has a very clear purpose. I don't at all understand how gameplay fits the theme; it is all about Holy Words and cycling through them but that feels like an Occult or Truenamer theme which is not related to the Holy Light at all. But it still feels well to play it, it just doesn't always have adequate numbers to justify the lack of utility. Everything they can do, someone can do better which is a problem.

But Shadow and Disc have no rhyme or reason.

Ever since Legion Discipline being pitched as the "balance" between light and shadow was always a bit absurd to me. There's not much lore precedent for that, and it's a weird take for a Priest in general. In practice, it's still mostly holy leaning anyway.

If I had it my way, the theming for Discipline would just be that of a fanatical holy priest, using fiery "punishment" attacks to heal with atonement. Whitemane in HotS pretty much.

[Raetary]

If I had it my way, the theming for Discipline would just be that of a fanatical holy priest, using fiery "punishment" attacks to heal with atonement. Whitemane in HotS pretty much.

Being a zealot/fanatic was somewhat of a theme in Legion with its artifact and the introduction of PtW.

Then that theme kinda just died off ever since.

[Darkarath]

What we will get today about WoW in the XboX conference?

WoW in Game Pass? WoW Beta for consoles? A release date for TWW seems too soon.

[Makabreska]

What we will get today about WoW in the XboX conference?

WoW in Game Pass? WoW Beta for consoles? A release date for TWW seems too soon.

TWW release date is THE most probable out of three. Why would they put 8 mil subs game on Game Pass? And many things have been already said about difficulty of putting WoW on consoles.

Not even mention we may not get WoW at all on Xbox showcase.

[Ersula]

TWW release date is THE most probable out of three. Why would they put 8 mil subs game on Game Pass? And many things have been already said about difficulty of putting WoW on consoles.

They just put the WoW on the Nvidia gamepass this week.