Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lady Atia]

She's saying "you were never the best father" as if she didn't do anything bad or something.

But. She didn't? Her dad literally didn't agree with her marriage and send assassins to kill the love of her life, and now she's the bad one or what?

[Xilurm]

But. She didn't? Her dad literally didn't agree with her marriage and send assassins to kill the love of her life, and now she's the bad one or what?

Wasn't that after he kidnapped her? Not to mention the guy was just evil? She even clearly says Magni didn't even know she was in love with Dagran, all he thought was that she was kidnapped.

[Raetary]

She's saying "you were never the best father" as if she didn't do anything bad or something.

Their whole story is that Magni was neglectful of her needs, forcing her into the role that she never wanted to be in, did shit while people were looking down upon her for being a woman (while himself also having desired a son) and then literally sending us in to kill the love of her life.

She has all the right to call him out on it.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Wasn't that after he kidnapped her? Not to mention the guy was just evil? She even clearly says Magni didn't even know she was in love with Dagran, all he thought was that she was kidnapped.

Aye, suggesting Magni just ordered Dagran assassinated out of "disapproval" is pretty revisionist. While Magni's treatment of Moira is obviously meant to be subpar, people are a bit inclined to forget that Dagran was a pretty nasty type and that Magni didn't exactly have any means of knowing that Moira defected.

[Auxis]

Just noticed there seems to be 2 forced evolutionary paths for the Nerubians in TWW. The raid log presents there are the Void-ascended ones that Xal empowered (the queen herself ascends in the fight, and the Captain of the Guard Sikran - they both use cosmic void abilities and have the purple-blue void colouration on their models), and then there is a section of ones which seemed to have evolved via the old god blood given their colours and their behaviour (mindlessness, madness, hunger, depravity). The Void ones seem to become more humanoid, while the old god ones become more bestial.

Makes me wonder if the Old gods aren't purely Void, and if there were other forces involved in their creation - maybe the Void Lords had to use Life/Death in their creation to keep them sustained in reality.

[Kiivar86]

Maybe Aluneth could return in the Last Titan, giving us this appearance. I would like to know more about the nature of his being.

I'm holding out hope for this too. They brought back Xal'atath after all, this can work too.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Just l-o-l at that recap cinematic.

"N'Zoth's reign of terror"

Good one, Blizzard. Revisionist, yep. Romanticizing, definitely.

[Golden Yak]

I don't know, they invaded two nations with vast armies, haunted unknown multitudes with visions of horror and eldritch madness, and threatened to devour the worldsoul, that's not nothing.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

I don't know, they invaded two nations with vast armies, haunted unknown multitudes with visions of horror and eldritch madness, and threatened to devour the worldsoul, that's not nothing.

Sure, they were a threat. A released Old God should be a threat in that regard.

And it was by no means a "reign of terror" as Blizzard describes it. More like a "great and inconvenient 2 months."

[Houle]

Just l-o-l at that recap cinematic.

"N'Zoth's reign of terror"

Good one, Blizzard. Revisionist, yep. Romanticizing, definitely.

Yeah, as good as that video was for getting people up to date and hype them about Xal, it also really reminded me how they absolutely shafted N'zoth. Imagine if N'zoth was now in the role of Xal, with all his previous 10+years of buildup and lore since Cata.

[Santandame]

Yeah, as good as that video was for getting people up to date and hype them about Xal, it also really reminded me how they absolutely shafted N'zoth. Imagine if N'zoth was now in the role of Xal, with all his previous 10+years of buildup and lore since Cata.

I remember some of the leaks around the WoD-Legion-BfA leak seasons that N’Zoth had been amongst us the entire time as a well known lore character. I’d have loved that personally. Blizz really did shaft N’Zoth. There’s so much that could have been done with him. A character that was built up over years and was dealt with swiftly. I think Xal is fine, but I’d much prefer N’Zoth in that role over her, as you said. I think he’s one of Blizzards most mishandled characters in terms of overall potential. A tragedy as far as characters goes.

[Xilurm]

At least they didn't even bother mentioning the Jailer. Which is something.

[Zardas]

Sure, they were a threat. A released Old God should be a threat in that regard.

And it was by no means a "reign of terror" as Blizzard describes it. More like a "great and inconvenient 2 months."

It's "Age of Ultron" all over again.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

It's "Age of Ultron" all over again.

"Week of Ultron"

And "Captain America: Civl War Dispute"

[Makorus]

Aye, suggesting Magni just ordered Dagran assassinated out of "disapproval" is pretty revisionist. While Magni's treatment of Moira is obviously meant to be subpar, people are a bit inclined to forget that Dagran was a pretty nasty type and that Magni didn't exactly have any means of knowing that Moira defected.

I mean, yeah, that's literally what the Stay awhile and listen is saying, outright:

"Regardless of your intentions, you did kill my husband and my love, and it was hard to forgive you for that."

It doesn't matter why he was killed, or if he was in the right or not.

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Sure, they were a threat. A released Old God should be a threat in that regard.

And it was by no means a "reign of terror" as Blizzard describes it. More like a "great and inconvenient 2 months."

It mean, they never said it was N'zoths reign of terror, but the Old Gods' reign of terror, which arguably is correct. Us killing N'zoth was us ending the Old Gods for good. The Old Gods have been terrorising us since Vanilla, and in every expansion except for TBC and WoD, because they aren't set on Azeroth.

[Auxis]

Done a few of the new Memory events.

What an absolute gotdamn laggy nightmare. It's not so bad once we split from the initial blob to go get the individual events but the final boss is a trashfire aswell.

[Ersula]

Two burning questions I have right now:

1.) Is what actually happens to Dalaran going to be part of the pre-patch questline at some point? Or is it going to be completely encrypted till launch day?

2.) Is it becoming abundantly clear to anyone else that Vareesa, not Jaina, should have been a major figure in this expansion? I know people think she's going to pop up doing some important moment in Alleria's storyline but why wouldn't she be here the whole time? She's way more relevant to the overall story than Jaina. It seems like they simply forgot Vareesa existed.

[Enrif]

Done a few of the new Memory events.

What an absolute gotdamn laggy nightmare. It's not so bad once we split from the initial blob to go get the individual events but the final boss is a trashfire aswell.

i only experienced problems with the dragonblight one. The other two were way more stable.

[Santandame]

Two burning questions I have right now:

1.) Is what actually happens to Dalaran going to be part of the pre-patch questline at some point? Or is it going to be completely encrypted till launch day?

2.) Is it becoming abundantly clear to anyone else that Vareesa, not Jaina, should have been a major figure in this expansion? I know people think she's going to pop up doing some important moment in Alleria's storyline but why wouldn't she be here the whole time? She's way more relevant to the overall story than Jaina. It seems like they simply forgot Vareesa existed.

Why wouldn’t, arguably, the most powerful mortal alive on Azeroth, want to be at the forefront of what is seemingly the biggest threat to Azeroth since the Legion invasion? Especially so after the wizard city of which she has several ties has just been destroyed.

[Gurahk]

But. She didn't? Her dad literally didn't agree with her marriage and send assassins to kill the love of her life, and now she's the bad one or what?

She was literally kidnapped.