Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[KOUNTERPARTS]

I hope they haven't lost too many people with the rto. the lack of communication (and tuning) of these past few weeks is kinda worrying. I fear the game might end up in maint mode before the next expansion even comes out.

Not even a remote chance of this coming true. You can rest easy.

[Kokolums]

Not even a remote chance of this coming true. You can rest easy.

i havent seen that sort of confidence since people were saying classic servers would never happen and they were posting the "wall of no".

[KOUNTERPARTS]

i havent seen that sort of confidence since people were saying classic servers would never happen and they were posting the "wall of no".

And this is not even remotely the same thing, but I'm glad to see you agree, even without the same amount of confidence.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Comparing this to Classic servers is silly. There may be a day when WoW is "numbered" but it certainly isn't cause dumb fear of RTO screwing them over. But thats assuming what I said comes true anyways. I won't discount it(Wow never being numbered that is).


But thats really off topic and such.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Its not going to go in maintenance mode...

The game already is in maintenance mode, the last few expansions have just been trying to obfuscate it to the wider audience as best as possible.

If you look at the content output it is the same content output every expansion without change and it is definitely due to a well defined budget that is meant to penny pinch super hard while making less and less content for the consumer while extracting more profits.

I hope they haven't lost too many people with the rto. the lack of communication (and tuning) of these past few weeks is kinda worrying. I fear the game might end up in maint mode before the next expansion even comes out.

I mean this is just normal Blizzard practice, they do not communicate and in many ways this was okay because the audience who got upset about this kept being spammed about how there were standards in place of 3 Major Patches. Obviously now there isn't a standard in place and we're just waiting for the 2024 Roadmap reveal after 10.2 launches.

We still got another PTR cycle to go through before we get 10.2 information. This is just going to be a very dry period overall.


Important to note that the Team has seemingly not crashed and burned yet even with the forced RTO and again maybe the 2024 Roadmap reveals that the Forced RTO was a complete disaster of a decision which led to complete confidence in the product being gone as they go for a Season 4 scenario with a long period of nothing except 11.0 hype for 2024 but that remains to be seen, however.

Again, I understand the anxiety but fundamentally this is going to be a weird period where nothing is happening until 10.1.7 PTR is over.

[Makabreska]

The game already is in maintenance mode, the last few expansions have just been trying to obfuscate it to the wider audience as best as possible.

If you look at the content output it is the same content output every expansion without change and it is definitely due to a well defined budget that is meant to penny pinch super hard while making less and less content for the consumer while extracting more profits.



I mean this is just normal Blizzard practice, they do not communicate and in many ways this was okay because the audience who got upset about this kept spamming about how there were standards in place of 3 Major Patches. Obviously now there isn't a standard in place and we're just waiting for the 2024 Roadmap reveal after 10.2 launches.

We still got another PTR cycle to go through before we get 10.2 information. This is just going to be a very dry period overall.

WoW is in maintenance mode, Dragnoflight content output is the same as in SL.

Ok guys, we are reaching new hights of shitposting.

[Shadowferal]

Ok guys, we are reaching new hights of shitposting.

Considering that DF makes zero sense when regarding narrative progression in expansions, to say the game is in "maintenance mode" holds some validity.

[Zardas]

The game already is in maintenance mode

If wow is in maintenance mode, then all of the mmorpgs on the planet are too (except maybe ff14). You have no idea what an mmorpg in maintenance mode means.

[Makabreska]

Considering that DF makes zero sense when regarding narrative progression in expansions, to say the game is in "maintenance mode" holds some validity.

Yes yes. Because now an alleged lack of sens in narrative progression equals "maintenance mode". Doesn't matter that game churns out content at a pace not seen since Legion (or maybe even surpassing it). Doesn't matter that it is especially visible after SL draught. Game is defo in some kind of maintenance mode!

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yes yes. Because now an alleged lack of sens in narrative progression equals "maintenance mode". Doesn't matter that game churns out content at a pace not seen since Legion (or maybe even surpassing it). Doesn't matter that it is especially visible after SL draught. Game is defo in some kind of maintenance mode!

Narrative makes zero sense.... Like do people just ignore stuff in front of them????? /sigh just block him.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I mean having everything being barely layered in obfuscation to make the narrative seem more deeper and more well thought out than it is, isn't exactly a good trait that the current narrative team has adopted over this expansion.

The entire storyline centered on the Megadungeon is frankly just insulting to the intelligence of the audience, not to speak of the fact that they literally could've just used the newly made Dragon Soul from the 8.3 campaign instead of literally making Iridikron have a random other Timelines artifact.

But, hey that's all I'm saying about this narrative at this point.

Fundamentally, we're still getting an epic ending out of this from Steve Danuser as he said so himself. So lets' see what he's cooking even if it is mixing ingredients in a haphazard way to get to a finished dish.

[Kiivar86]

People seriously think Dragonflight is maintenance mode?

Maintenance mode is when they're just keeping the lights on, servers on. But instead they're still making content for the game. By its very definition this isn't maintenance mode.

You want maintenance mode, go look at SWTOR before too long.

[Shadowferal]

People seriously think Dragonflight is maintenance mode? Maintenance mode is when they're just keeping the lights on, servers on. But instead they're still making content for the game. By its very definition this isn't maintenance mode.

Only if a haphazard poorly thought out expansion is how you define "content."
But considering the subscription price, I'd say you're getting what you pay for.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Sure, not saying they do. Still gorgeous art though. And I know its fake, but theres always that .1% chance its real and they changed art direction to make dev cheaper or something. Either way its still nice looking art. I can appreciate its beauty while recognizing its probably fake.

Eh, unlikely. You can see far too many technical errors, especially where NPCs are concerned. There's too many visible distortions for these to be real.

[Kiivar86]

Only if a haphazard poorly thought out expansion is how you define "content."
But considering the subscription price, I'd say you're getting what you pay for.

Are there new zones? New dungeons? Raids? Bosses, items, quests?

Yes. Its content. Go ahead and label it as haphazard if you wish but don't call it maintenance mode. It seriously isn't. If you label this maintenance mode you might as well label damn near everything maintenance mode. It makes it utterly meaningless.

[huth]

I mean having everything being barely layered in obfuscation to make the narrative seem more deeper and more well thought out than it is

...is the same kind of writing we've seen for the last 20 years. What's your point?

[Kiivar86]

...is the same kind of writing we've seen for the last 20 years. What's your point?

Desperately wanting ammunition to use against Blizzard, I suspect.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I mean having everything being barely layered in obfuscation to make the narrative seem more deeper and more well thought out than it is, isn't exactly a good trait that the current narrative team has adopted over this expansion.

Were this Shadowlands or Battle for Azeroth, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. However, I don't see any obfuscation at all re: the current plot. If anything, it's all fairly evident and plainly-communicated who is doing what and why. I do agree it would be most suitable to use 8.3.'s Dragon Soul, however.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Were this Shadowlands or Battle for Azeroth, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. However, I don't see any obfuscation at all re: the current plot. If anything, it's all fairly evident and plainly-communicated who is doing what and why. I do agree it would be most suitable to use 8.3.'s Dragon Soul, however.

Even if it was, that doesn't mean Maintenance mode. This is all just very warped and jaded mindset to gaming.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Even if it was, that doesn't mean Maintenance mode. This is all just very warped and jaded mindset to gaming.

I think the belief that we're approaching "maintenance mode" isn't strictly well-founded because we've been in something analogous to that since about Battle for Azeroth. I think that there is some credence to it, but it's an already-ongoing, dubiously-reversible slow descent rather than something that will be sparked in the future by a single event.

Either way, this is approaching digression, so may be best for us to move on to discuss more tangible future events rather than the health of the game.