Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Berkilak]

The game already is in maintenance mode, the last few expansions have just been trying to obfuscate it to the wider audience as best as possible..

Ah yes, the classic scheme of releasing multiple expansions worth of content to hide that you are no longer releasing content. It’s genius.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

The game already is in maintenance mode, the last few expansions have just been trying to obfuscate it to the wider audience as best as possible.

If you look at the content output it is the same content output every expansion without change and it is definitely due to a well defined budget that is meant to penny pinch super hard while making less and less content for the consumer while extracting more profits.

this is just completely untrue.

Legion gave us more dungeons then BFA and more world content with Suamar and all the order halls.

BFA had more zones then legion with 3 patch zones to legions 1 not counting content added to old zones, and it had those full CGI cinematic’s which you don’t need while penny pinching given there cost.

SL was a shit show and had less content in every way.

DF is still up in the air but the zones have already been bigger then other expans being on par with northrend not counting the under ground zone.

They are far far from maintenance mode.

[Dracullus]

People seriously think Dragonflight is maintenance mode?

If in doubt, check post history. @Shadowferal literally produce same post in every thread I see him. Ironically, posts are about how unimaginative Blizzard is. xD

Ah yes, the classic scheme of releasing multiple expansions worth of content to hide that you are no longer releasing content. It’s genius.

Also releasing patch every other month is genius way of disguising fact that you no longer support expansion.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Ah yes, the classic scheme of releasing multiple expansions worth of content to hide that you are no longer releasing content. It’s genius.

You do recognize that they would have liked to have 1 year cycles if they could to sell you the expansion box every year without problems internally?

Whatever is within the time period of the "two year cycle" will always be valued less than the sales pitch of the next expansion.

[Teriz]

If this is maintenance mode, keep it up! The content patches for Dragonflight have been great, especially in comparison to Shadowlands.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I just hope that next big patches like 10.2 will be a lot better than 10.1, it made me lose interest pretty quickly, doing the weekly in zalarek cavern is not so pleasing, but i doubt that the game is in any kind of maintenance mode.

Of course opinions vary on this patch, one above is just mine.

[Shadowferal]

If in doubt, check post history. @Shadowferal literally produce same post in every thread I see him. Ironically, posts are about how unimaginative Blizzard is. xD

And you imagine differently? You actually think "this..." stuff is quality writing? If so, this beggars my own imagination of what you could possibly call "poor writing."

[Makabreska]

And you imagine differently? You actually think "this..." stuff is quality writing? If so, this beggars my own imagination of what you could possibly call "poor writing."

The problem with you here was that you started to say that this supposed boring writing (which remained pretty much the same for years) means maintenance mode.

[Santandame]

Seeing how we're all under the belief that 10.2 will be Emerald Dream related - IF we get a 10.3; where do we see it taking place and what will the story be tied to there?

I'm leaning more towards 10.2 being the final patch of the main story of Dragonflight. If that's the case, then I think it'll be Iridikron and Decay invading the Dream and us teaming up with the Red & Green flights.

If we do get a 10.3, then 10.2 I think will be Vyranoth assaulting the dream, with only the Green's helping us. This free's up the final patch being centered around the Reds - if thats the case what would the content be? Avaloren? I'm more resigned to believing Avaloren would be future expansion content, but I wouldn't put it past Blizz to make it patch content. Either way, I think it'll be heavy Titan themed, the Reds taking centre stage.

Now if 10.2 is indeed the last patch, and 11.0 is a revamp (doubt but I'd be all for it), then I could see 10.3 being a time skip and giving us the updated old world for some world content and to get characters levelled up, introducing new class/race combinations, and possibly some allied races.

On that subject, if 11.0 is indeed a world revamp, which zones/sub-continent do you see being the main expansion levelling zones? Lordaeron or Southern Kalimdor I guess would be the frontrunners if Blizz went down this route.

Alternatively, what about another Cataclysm situation with the main levelling zones being newly introduced spread out zones? Lets say, Tel'Abim(still think there's legs there to be its own landmass for an expansion), Undermine (same as Tel'Abim), Zul'Dare, Balor, Northern Lordaeron?

However, if you're doing both Tel'Abim and Undermine together, it ruins the potential of a future South Seas expansion as those two would likely be prominent locations. What other known South Sea islands do we have? Plunder Isle, Hiji and Ogrezonia? I'm sure Blizz could make up a couple more though but I doubt it would have the same luster.

[Hugnomo]

New book announcement on the 14th! ;o Am I missing something? Do we know what's it gonna be from any amazon listing or something?

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

New book announcement on the 14th! ;o Am I missing something? Do we know what's it gonna be from any amazon listing or something?

Current listings on Amazon for unreleased products:

https://www.amazon.com/Untitled-Worl...dp/B09XFJ8RR4/ (Untitled Warcraft Novel)

https://www.amazon.com/Azeroth-ABCs-...dp/B0BHTQQFT8/ (The ABCs of Azeroth)

I'm going to hedge a guess that it is the Ballantine entry or something completely different entirely without a current listing.

[Abraxan]

Seeing how we're all under the belief that 10.2 will be Emerald Dream related - IF we get a 10.3; where do we see it taking place and what will the story be tied to there?

I'm leaning more towards 10.2 being the final patch of the main story of Dragonflight. If that's the case, then I think it'll be Iridikron and Decay invading the Dream and us teaming up with the Red & Green flights.

If we do get a 10.3, then 10.2 I think will be Vyranoth assaulting the dream, with only the Green's helping us. This free's up the final patch being centered around the Reds - if thats the case what would the content be? Avaloren? I'm more resigned to believing Avaloren would be future expansion content, but I wouldn't put it past Blizz to make it patch content. Either way, I think it'll be heavy Titan themed, the Reds taking centre stage.

Now if 10.2 is indeed the last patch, and 11.0 is a revamp (doubt but I'd be all for it), then I could see 10.3 being a time skip and giving us the updated old world for some world content and to get characters levelled up, introducing new class/race combinations, and possibly some allied races.

On that subject, if 11.0 is indeed a world revamp, which zones/sub-continent do you see being the main expansion levelling zones? Lordaeron or Southern Kalimdor I guess would be the frontrunners if Blizz went down this route.

Alternatively, what about another Cataclysm situation with the main levelling zones being newly introduced spread out zones? Lets say, Tel'Abim(still think there's legs there to be its own landmass for an expansion), Undermine (same as Tel'Abim), Zul'Dare, Balor, Northern Lordaeron?

However, if you're doing both Tel'Abim and Undermine together, it ruins the potential of a future South Seas expansion as those two would likely be prominent locations. What other known South Sea islands do we have? Plunder Isle, Hiji and Ogrezonia? I'm sure Blizz could make up a couple more though but I doubt it would have the same luster.

Agree with 10.2 vyranoth and 10.3 titan/red focused predictions. I think the last DF raid will be in tyrhold, with us helping alexstrasza against Tyr/titan keepers.

Avaloren for 11.0 or 12.0.

[huth]

You do recognize that they would have liked to have 1 year cycles if they could to sell you the expansion box every year without problems internally?

Whatever is within the time period of the "two year cycle" will always be valued less than the sales pitch of the next expansion.

You do recognise they immediately acknowledged that their one actual attempt at doing so was a complete disaster and have completely abandoned the idea since?

I think you overestimate how much money they actually make on expansion boxes compared to subs.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

You do recognise they immediately acknowledged that their one actual attempt at doing so was a complete disaster and have completely abandoned the idea since?

I think you overestimate how much money they actually make on expansion boxes compared to subs.

I mean they make money off it, the in-game content of the two year cycle is a expenditure to the company with no actual RoI.

Literally their business is microtransactions and services. The sub fee is at this point a bonus to them.

[Makabreska]

I mean they make money off it, the in-game content of the two year cycle is a expenditure to the company with no actual RoI.

Literally their business is microtransactions and services. The sub fee is at this point a bonus to them.

No idea what the fuck you are even talking about.

And we know this, how?

[Santandame]

Agree with 10.2 vyranoth and 10.3 titan/red focused predictions. I think the last DF raid will be in tyrhold, with us helping alexstrasza against Tyr/titan keepers.

Avaloren for 11.0 or 12.0.

At least someone wants to contribute to speculation on upcoming patches/expansions in the patch/expansion speculation thread! Thank you.

I am of the opinion if we get 3 major content patches, then the Incarnates storyline within this expansion will be wrapped up and put on the back burner for future stories.

Definitely think the last patch will be Alex/Reds vs Titan Keepers. A full blown Titan raid in Tyrhold/Uldorus would be a lot of fun. Tyr, Odyn and resurrected Archaedas and Ironaya as potential bosses could be very cool. Possibly one of those “heretics” that make their home on Avaloren too? Would be a pretty cool precursor for what’s to come.

I assume we wouldn’t get an extra zone though if the last raid took place here, unless Uldorus was large enough and diverse enough to be both a raid and world content.

Possibly some world content in the Dragon Isles with Titan Keepers, constructs and Valarjar attacking?

[huth]

And we know this, how?

For that matter, why would anybody buy said microtransactions and services if there was no game to play. The argument is self-inconsistent.

If there was no RoI, no profit-oriented company in the world would do it.

[Sondrelk]

At least someone wants to contribute to speculation on upcoming patches/expansions in the patch/expansion speculation thread! Thank you.

I am of the opinion if we get 3 major content patches, then the Incarnates storyline within this expansion will be wrapped up and put on the back burner for future stories.

Definitely think the last patch will be Alex/Reds vs Titan Keepers. A full blown Titan raid in Tyrhold/Uldorus would be a lot of fun. Tyr, Odyn and resurrected Archaedas and Ironaya as potential bosses could be very cool. Possibly one of those “heretics” that make their home on Avaloren too? Would be a pretty cool precursor for what’s to come.

I assume we wouldn’t get an extra zone though if the last raid took place here, unless Uldorus was large enough and diverse enough to be both a raid and world content.

Possibly some world content in the Dragon Isles with Titan Keepers, constructs and Valarjar attacking?

There is also the possibility of going further into Uldaman. There is the giant door behind the final boss in the dungeon that could be explored further if needed.

[micwini]

Seeing how we're all under the belief that 10.2 will be Emerald Dream related - IF we get a 10.3; where do we see it taking place and what will the story be tied to there?

I'm leaning more towards 10.2 being the final patch of the main story of Dragonflight. If that's the case, then I think it'll be Iridikron and Decay invading the Dream and us teaming up with the Red & Green flights.

If we do get a 10.3, then 10.2 I think will be Vyranoth assaulting the dream, with only the Green's helping us. This free's up the final patch being centered around the Reds - if thats the case what would the content be? Avaloren? I'm more resigned to believing Avaloren would be future expansion content, but I wouldn't put it past Blizz to make it patch content. Either way, I think it'll be heavy Titan themed, the Reds taking centre stage.

Now if 10.2 is indeed the last patch, and 11.0 is a revamp (doubt but I'd be all for it), then I could see 10.3 being a time skip and giving us the updated old world for some world content and to get characters levelled up, introducing new class/race combinations, and possibly some allied races.

On that subject, if 11.0 is indeed a world revamp, which zones/sub-continent do you see being the main expansion levelling zones? Lordaeron or Southern Kalimdor I guess would be the frontrunners if Blizz went down this route.

Alternatively, what about another Cataclysm situation with the main levelling zones being newly introduced spread out zones? Lets say, Tel'Abim(still think there's legs there to be its own landmass for an expansion), Undermine (same as Tel'Abim), Zul'Dare, Balor, Northern Lordaeron?

However, if you're doing both Tel'Abim and Undermine together, it ruins the potential of a future South Seas expansion as those two would likely be prominent locations. What other known South Sea islands do we have? Plunder Isle, Hiji and Ogrezonia? I'm sure Blizz could make up a couple more though but I doubt it would have the same luster.

Avaloren, I can't think of any zone that's otherwise teased/mentioned anywhere. Probably going to see hints of the zone during 10.2 datamining

[Santandame]

There is also the possibility of going further into Uldaman. There is the giant door behind the final boss in the dungeon that could be explored further if needed.

Would certainly be interesting to see what’s there. It could lead to Uldorus or even the fifth old god(Xal’atath?) prison and could serve as her introduction to the story.

A sprawling titan keeper city could also be very cool.