Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Timester]

He probably means that Silithus and the sword are in the opposite corner of the world.

Well, accordingly to TWW, not anymore.

[Makabreska]

I'm not talking about the backside if that's the misunderstanding.

It was

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[Santandame]

I love Dalaran to bits, but i really do not need it as another floating main hub. (For the third time)

Have them rebuild it in Hillsbrad and keep it there.

TLT should get a unique hub and Northrend is full with sights to pick.

Icecrown, Wyrmrest, Azjol'Nerub, Coldarra.
Hell, they could even use Grizzlemaw.

And most importantly, Wintergrasp is right there

Out of all of those, Wintergrasp feels the most likely. I can’t see it having any other real purpose or importance in The Last Titan. It also helps that the main hub of Wintergrasp is a Titan complex, and that TLT is going to predominantly be, a Titan expansion. It feels like a king brainer to me. Especially where it’s very likely Ulduar will be our Suramar/City of Threads for the expansion.

But let’s go over the other locations too.

Wyrmest is also a strong contender, but after just getting Dragonflight and Valdrakken, it would feel a little samey despite the clear architectural differences. I could see the different dragon sanctums at the tower playing a part though. On a slightly unrelated note, I remember when a popular theory was that the sanctums were locations on the Dragon Isles. I wonder where the sanctums are in the world?

Icecrown Citadel would feel a bit out of place for an expansion capital. As well as too dreary.

Azjol Nerub, while I think it’ll show up again and be massively expanded, I can’t see it being a capital after getting such a heavy focus in the first patch for TWW. I think it’s likely it’s part of a revamped Dragonblight and Icecrown.

Coldarra is probably the most likely following Wintergrasp. It’s a cool aesthetic, the sub zone itself is decently sized for a large capital and it would feel like a throwback to Wrath in the sense it would be similar to Dalaran as a city of the arcane but also coming full circle with the Blue Dragonflight assisting the Kirin Tor.

Grizzlemaw is an interesting one. It would be the most out of left field choice, and would be one of, if not the most unique neutral capital city we’ve had yet. No neutral capital city shares its aesthetic and it could be a buildup to getting playable Furbolgs. It’s definitely an interesting one to consider, and one I wouldn’t mind. I could also see it being a dungeon or delve. It should have been a dungeon in Wrath.

Honestly though, what I think is, that we’re finally going to see the return of Class Halls in TLT and most of those locations I see as potential locations for the Class Halls:

Death Knights - Icecrown Citadel
Demon Hunters - The Felhammer returns (parked in the Storm Peaks near Ulduar)
Druids - Grizzlemaw
Evokers - Wyrmrest Temple
Hunters - Amberpine Lodge or Silverbrook
Mages - Coldarra/The Nexus
Monks - somewhere in Crystalsong Forest.
Paladins - The Argent Tournament Grounds
Priests - the Light can purify one of the citadels in Icecrown.
Rogues - possibly Azjol Nerub? Dark, shadowy, secretive.
Shamans - Rivers Heart in Sholazar Basin
Warlocks - Amphitheatre of Anguish
Warriors - Utgarde Pinnacle

Some of those were a lot harder to think of than others.

The Last Titan in many respects could be Legion 2.0. The return of Illidan & Sargeras, Class Halls 2.0, a Suramar styled zone & city with the Storm Peaks & Ulduar and a much requested class coming in with the Articifer (Tinker). Now give us some allied races and something similar to Artifacts then we could be cooking here.

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Nice, that leaves the end of this expansion kind of mysterious if it's not right under Silithus.

K’aresh. I know a lot of people think we’re getting in Midnight but I see K’aresh leading Dimensius to Silvermoon at the end of TWW.

[Cheezits]

I also think Class Halls are very likely for TLT. Priests could get the scarlet area.

[Xilurm]

Silithus revamp then?

[Santandame]

I also think Class Halls are very likely for TLT. Priests could get the scarlet area.

That’s a great shout, I completely forgot about that. New Hearthglen in southern Dragonblight?

[Nize]

The Last Titan in many respects could be Legion 2.0. The return of Illidan & Sargeras, Class Halls 2.0, a Suramar styled zone & city with the Storm Peaks & Ulduar and a much requested class coming in with the Articifer (Tinker). Now give us some allied races and something similar to Artifacts then we could be cooking here.

Don't you dare threaten me with a good time.

[Cheezits]

The Last Titan in many respects could be Legion 2.0. The return of Illidan & Sargeras, Class Halls 2.0, a Suramar styled zone & city with the Storm Peaks & Ulduar and a much requested class coming in with the Articifer (Tinker). Now give us some allied races and something similar to Artifacts then we could be cooking here.

I do think they are going to do something with Tuskarr (works mostly done) and Vrykul (need a rehaul), and then they can do the Ascended Nerubians from TWW if there is a story tie-in. But that's three clasically Northrend races that are (mostly) fan requested.

I guess Taunka for 4/4?

[milkmustache]

Also something I'm not seeing anyone mention...

Metzen says they're building Xal'atath to be someone we see and confront multiple times over the arc of the saga. Read into that how you will, but it's good to see Xal will be more than a 11.2 raid boss kill.

[Civciv]

Also something I'm not seeing anyone mention...

Metzen says they're building Xal'atath to be someone we see and confront multiple times over the arc of the saga. Read into that how you will, but it's good to see Xal will be more than a 11.2 raid boss kill.

Can't wait to watch her have a queen off with Azshara in Midnight

[Ersula]

Good thing you already decided that a thing ~4y in the future will be a disappointment.

Well, it is their pattern. Frankly waiting more than 2 years for a story to reach its climax is always disappointing. I'd be thrilled if blizzard can tell a story with a coherent beginning, middle & end, but they've only done it arguably 2 or 3 times out of 9 expansions.

[Joshuaj]

Also something I'm not seeing anyone mention...

Metzen says they're building Xal'atath to be someone we see and confront multiple times over the arc of the saga. Read into that how you will, but it's good to see Xal will be more than a 11.2 raid boss kill.

Oh fr? Cool!

Maybe we'll simply beat her up in TWW then, leading to her barely escaping with her life.

[Timester]

Well, it is their pattern. Frankly waiting more than 2 years for a story to reach its climax is always disappointing. I'd be thrilled if blizzard can tell a story with a coherent beginning, middle & end, but they've only done it arguably 2 or 3 times out of 9 expansions.

Metzen is basically doing it for the first time, planning the story for years to come.

[Joshuaj]

Metzen returned while TWW was being planned, and he fucked wit the initial pitch and whatnot?

Looool and y'all told me he made the writers completely 180 the narrative. Silly geese.

[Santandame]

Oh fr? Cool!

Maybe we'll simply beat her up in TWW then, leading to her barely escaping with her life.

I’d prefer if she beat us personally as opposed to us beating her with her fleeing to lick her wounds.

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I do think they are going to do something with Tuskarr (works mostly done) and Vrykul (need a rehaul), and then they can do the Ascended Nerubians from TWW if there is a story tie-in. But that's three clasically Northrend races that are (mostly) fan requested.

I guess Taunka for 4/4?

Taunka is likely but I could also see Furbolgs too.

[Hitei]

Oh fr? Cool!

Maybe we'll simply beat her up in TWW then, leading to her barely escaping with her life.

She's already physically dead though.

[Cheezits]

She's already physically dead though.

The Xal "floaty elf corpse" body will probably get shredded, albeit she lives on in her true form and/or controlling or corrupting Alleria.

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Metzen returned while TWW was being planned, and he fucked wit the initial pitch and whatnot?

Looool and y'all told me he made the writers completely 180 the narrative. Silly geese.

If the pitch was "we go to Khaz Algar and then Elun'ahir, and get a tease of Avaloren" that is not Metzen's pitch, that is Danuser's pitch from launch and 10.2 DF. TWW looks to be largely planned without Metzen though I can see his influence appearing in the patches (Kezan)

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

So I guess the 3rd Major Patch is completely dead with what Metzen said about 13.1/13.2 seemingly confirming there's no .3 patches anymore.

Well, will be interesting to see if they strike gold once with this game model during this saga.

[Hitei]

The Xal "floaty elf corpse" body will probably get shredded, albeit she lives on in her true form and/or controlling or corrupting Alleria.

Alleria is going to stay Alleria. The Worldsoul Saga theme is literally her leitmotif. She is the main character for the next three expansions.

[Enrif]

Also something I'm not seeing anyone mention...

Metzen says they're building Xal'atath to be someone we see and confront multiple times over the arc of the saga. Read into that how you will, but it's good to see Xal will be more than a 11.2 raid boss kill.

I always thought they will do with Xal something similar to what they do with Iridikron. Not a throw away villain, but one that will be problematic for some time. I could even see that she never will be a boss, only the one that plays the strings on others, just one step away from facing us.