Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Timester]

First of all, we don't know Xal's side of story yet. So I would advise against labeling her. Perhaps, like Sylvanas, she simply fell victim to a much more powerful villain behind the scenes. We simply don't know yet. Secondly, the Void is not a bad force. No force is truly good or bad.

We don't? Everytime she appears, someone is either kidnapped, killed or both by her own actions. There is no grand masterpuppeter behind her, she is the grand masterpuppeter.

[Sondrelk]

So now finished the Azj Kahet storyline:
Alleria finally managed to hit some one shot drones only to miss an arrow at Xal AGAIN...

Hey, it's difficult to aim when your fabulous eyeshadow drips into your eyes.

[Foolicious]

I'm honestly suprised how much i like the earthen. They all look very different despite a lack of customization options. I am now about halfway done with sidequests and i am invested in their culture and history. So many interesting things and lore nuggets to find. So much personality. Dwarfes have always been a sidenote at best in storys. At least their ancestors can get some time in the spotlight now.

I also love how much additional dialogue and info you can get if you choose to. Lots of "stay a while and listen" and questions to ask npc's during quests.


Also because im exploring right now and its kind of important to know for future lore speculation. Is there a map that shows the arrangement of the zones on top of each other? Is the isle of dorne above the whole underground or just some parts of the ringing deeps? I feel like im too stupid to wrap my head around that.

[username993720]

Having seen the Harrinir, I am really hoping we don't get a pure Rootlands patch. Something about the way they are so aggressively Native American coded gives me flashbacks to the Na'vi in Avatar, and it makes them feel really forced.

Native american?
They look of african descent.

[Nymrohd]

The amount of side quests is crazy, I hit 80 before Hallowfall

[Makabreska]

The amount of side quests is crazy, I hit 80 before Hallowfall

Indeed. My completionist brain is having a seizure.

[PenguinChan]

First of all, we don't know Xal's side of story yet. So I would advise against labeling her. Perhaps, like Sylvanas, she simply fell victim to a much more powerful villain behind the scenes. We simply don't know yet. Secondly, the Void is not a bad force. No force is truly good or bad.

Look, as attractive and well designed Xal is, trying to impose your weird kinks onto her and alleria is a tad too far even for me. That’s fanfic / r34 territory, not lore speculation theory lmao

Besides she was trapped inside that knife for a good reason. In no shape or form was she anything but a villain through and through. She’s the meme “I don’t wanna fix her, I want to make her worse” type of character. She is by all means a comic book villain.

[Sondrelk]

Native american?
They look of african descent.

The way they act. Not the way they look.
Native Americans are not blue, but the Na'vi in Avatar were still coded that way despite outward appearances.

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Indeed. My completionist brain is having a seizure.

It really makes me appreciate the change to reputations being account wide. Knowing that I can focus on just the side quests for my alts, and have that directly benefit my main is such a great change.
Doing all the side quests in DF was not all that fun, even if I only forced myself to do it.

[Cheezits]

I really enjoy Xal but I do hope she ditches the elf format, a fun void ghost monster would suit her well.

[huth]

So now finished the Azj Kahet storyline:
Alleria finally managed to hit some one shot drones only to miss an arrow at Xal AGAIN...

We're in the first act of the story. They have plot armour at least 2/3 of a book thick.

[Black Rider]

Having seen the Harrinir, I am really hoping we don't get a pure Rootlands patch. Something about the way they are so aggressively Native American coded gives me flashbacks to the Na'vi in Avatar, and it makes them feel really forced.

Crossed fingers for Silithus underground patch. The best part so far to me is the exploration of Nerubian society. Small stuff like Nerubians thinking the Mantids are barbaric for throwing their warriors at the serpent's spine to die.
Would love to get some stuff on the Silithids. The stuff we have seen on them paints them as more blatantly insects, but it would be nice to see more of them. Even if they are just fanatical Old God cultists.

Silithus Underground would be nice.
Also look what I just remembered
A Bael'dun Excavator standing before the cave can be interacted with by Alliance adventurers. He recommends the adventurer to turn away, as before the Cataclysm hit, the dwarves dug up "something that should've stayed buried", and hopes that the landslide was enough to keep "it" down.[10]
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Bael_Modan
here on Cataclysm page, maybe future dungeon here? after all these years

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Having seen the Harrinir, I am really hoping we don't get a pure Rootlands patch. Something about the way they are so aggressively Native American coded gives me flashbacks to the Na'vi in Avatar, and it makes them feel really forced.

Crossed fingers for Silithus underground patch. The best part so far to me is the exploration of Nerubian society. Small stuff like Nerubians thinking the Mantids are barbaric for throwing their warriors at the serpent's spine to die.
Would love to get some stuff on the Silithids. The stuff we have seen on them paints them as more blatantly insects, but it would be nice to see more of them. Even if they are just fanatical Old God cultists.

Silithus Underground would be nice.
Also look what I just remembered
A Bael'dun Excavator standing before the cave can be interacted with by Alliance adventurers. He recommends the adventurer to turn away, as before the Cataclysm hit, the dwarves dug up "something that should've stayed buried", and hopes that the landslide was enough to keep "it" down.[10]
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Bael_Modan
here on Cataclysm page, maybe future dungeon here? after all these years

[Gurahk]

The way they act. Not the way they look.
Native Americans are not blue, but the Na'vi in Avatar were still coded that way despite outward appearances.

Not to be that guy but I don't think people of african descent are blue either.

[Shadowferal]

Not to be that guy but I don't think people of african descent are blue either.

Depends on how dark. My godfather was so dark he had a bluish tint to his skin, or so it seemed to me.

[huth]

Depends on how dark. My godfather was so dark he had a bluish tint to his skin, or so it seemed to me.

Bluish black and straight-up blue is a fairly significant difference though.

[Shadowferal]

Bluish black and straight-up blue is a fairly significant difference though.

A fair point.

[Ksgrip]

I said it before and you all laughed at me. Well, who's laughing now? Their relationship is pure sex. Absolutely electric! Alleria has never had such wild chemistry with her golden retriever. And this is 100% done intentionally by writers.

I told you Blizzard made Alleria LGBTQ-coded on purpose. I just hope they're fully committed to it and not just queerbaiting.

The brain rot is strong with you. I hope you get better some day

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Representation matters.

You literally chose a straight ass woman married and with a kid for your horse race I would call this delusional. But something tells me there are deeper issues going on here

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You are celebrating a character becoming LGBTQ coded through a relationship with another character who is in every respect presented as a corrupting influence? Yes, we need more 60s queer representation apparently.

Ofc Blizzard is hopefully not doing that. It's just you seeing corruption as sexuality and queerness because media has trained us to see that.

Bravo. It is such a toxic way of viewing things that the way it eludes some who are supposedly preaching to the choir simply don’t want to see. Their view of sexuality is toxic and it ends up tainting their very interpretation of what sexuality even is

[username993720]

The way they act. Not the way they look.
Native Americans are not blue, but the Na'vi in Avatar were still coded that way despite outward appearances.

The Na'vi in Avatar had dreadlocks and an african accent.

[Shadowferal]

The Na'vi in Avatar had dreadlocks and an african accent.

Specifically...to me, West coast (Côte d'Ivoire)

[Sondrelk]

I wonder what will happen when we learn more about the origins of the Earthen on Khaz Algar. The sidequests does state that there was a Titan Keeper assigned to them that seemingly very suddenly created two watchers and then disappeared to parts unknown.

[Cheezits]

I wonder what will happen when we learn more about the origins of the Earthen on Khaz Algar. The sidequests does state that there was a Titan Keeper assigned to them that seemingly very suddenly created two watchers and then disappeared to parts unknown.

Was Dornic the keeper or a watcher? You get a huge loredump on him through the Proscenium plays, though it is biased.

Also the reveal that Councilward Merrix a little shady but overall a good? guy is a nice touch. Vanilla vibes.