Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nightshade711]

Also I'll add, the mural you can see in the final chamber of the City of Threads dungeon matches the 5th Old God C'thulhu look perfectly.

Could also explain all the leaves around it in chronicle - given the old god’s proximity to the roots of Elun’ahir.

[Sondrelk]

There's still the question of why he didn't just take it from Azshara and put it somewhere we couldn't get to. He had plenty of opportunity of keeping it from us, but chose to just leave it. And he certainly knows what it is, given that he was the one to release Xal'atath from it.

He is by all a counts the person who ensured it was given to Azshara to begin with.
The quest has him demand he gets to keep the empty dagger. After which the Horde player feels compelled by the Old God power to bring it to Sylvanas.

It isn't even that out there. The logical explanation for what happened is that he changed the dagger to somehow prevent his death.

[huth]

He is by all a counts the person who ensured it was given to Azshara to begin with.
The quest has him demand he gets to keep the empty dagger. After which the Horde player feels compelled by the Old God power to bring it to Sylvanas.

It isn't even that out there. The logical explanation for what happened is that he changed the dagger to somehow prevent his death.

Frankly, having it not be some sort of plan would create much bigger plotholes than it being wholly intentional, which would fit just fine with his supposed role as a manipulator.

[Merryck]

I genuinely believe we're getting a Return to Draenor expansion after the Worldsoul saga that adds playable Ogres and possibly Arrakoa. Plus deals with the Y'rel thread.

[Telogrus]

I genuinely believe we're getting a Return to Draenor expansion after the Worldsoul saga that adds playable Ogres and possibly Arrakoa. Plus deals with the Y'rel thread.

I’d be surprised if the expansion after TLT isn’t a world revamp

[Alanar]

The hood at least is a variant of a new set of items coming to the Trading Post. This time you can get hoods with masks (or without the mask, as you see in that).



Assuming the shoulders are new shoulder capes too.

Is that.. an actual cool black hood? No way...

Without the mask please!

[Khaza-R]

I genuinely believe we're getting a Return to Draenor expansion after the Worldsoul saga that adds playable Ogres and possibly Arrakoa. Plus deals with the Y'rel thread.

No offense, but what on earth leads you to that conclusion?

[Ersula]

Is that.. an actual cool black hood? No way...

Without the mask please!

There are also non-mask versions.

But this does seem like the last harrah for the ol' helmet hood: With the new Mage tier, they finally figured out how to connect a hood to the chest & transform accordingly instead of treating the hood as helmet.

[milkmustache]

I don't love the idea of mixing a potential Goblin and Rootlands patch (unless we were to get both Rootlands and Undermine as zones), but the questline at Opportunity Point lays some ground work for the intermingling of the themes.

It's quite literally Goblins taking over an Earthen depot, using the hot springs as a "resort", having you disperse an uprooted mole community, then kill a deepstrider who's ghost haunts them, forcing you to rid of it's skull, where it revives after entangling you with roots. I mean, the questline ends with the main goblin at the resort saying "Huh, I guess that makes me appreciate the beauty in nature!".

[Golden Yak]

I don't love the idea of mixing a potential Goblin and Rootlands patch (unless we were to get both Rootlands and Undermine as zones), but the questline at Opportunity Point lays some ground work for the intermingling of the themes.

I'm not sure what would swing the plot over to Undermine, it's kind've out of the way. I would love it, I've long wanted an Undermine zone.

Maybe Xal'atath is looking for a way to repair the Dark Heart and decides the means are in Undermine somewhere. Maybe we'll delve deep down and find out the true source of kaja'mite is Old God related? A specific strain of the Black Blood that is just the thing needed to weld the Dark Heart back together?

Still an out of the way place. Maybe it could be like the Emerald Dream zone in DF, accessible by a portal somewhere.

[Darkarath]

I'm not sure what would swing the plot over to Undermine, it's kind've out of the way. I would love it, I've long wanted an Undermine zone.

Maybe Xal'atath is looking for a way to repair the Dark Heart and decides the means are in Undermine somewhere. Maybe we'll delve deep down and find out the true source of kaja'mite is Old God related? A specific strain of the Black Blood that is just the thing needed to weld the Dark Heart back together?

Still an out of the way place. Maybe it could be like the Emerald Dream zone in DF, accessible by a portal somewhere.

I can easily see Xal'athat doing business with Gallywix, and the consistent presence of Goblins in TWW seems indicative of them getting a zone.

[Makabreska]

I'm not sure what would swing the plot over to Undermine, it's kind've out of the way. I would love it, I've long wanted an Undermine zone.

Maybe Xal'atath is looking for a way to repair the Dark Heart and decides the means are in Undermine somewhere. Maybe we'll delve deep down and find out the true source of kaja'mite is Old God related? A specific strain of the Black Blood that is just the thing needed to weld the Dark Heart back together?

Still an out of the way place. Maybe it could be like the Emerald Dream zone in DF, accessible by a portal somewhere.

Or simply a repetition of Opportunity Point scenario. Goblins did a goblin thing and stole for profit some important artifact that was stabilising Rootlands and took it to Undermine.

[Golden Yak]

Or simply a repetition of Opportunity Point scenario. Goblins did a goblin thing and stole for profit some important artifact that was stabilising Rootlands and took it to Undermine.

Yeah, that's a good angle. Goblins mentioned tunneling into the region, I can see some kind of high-speed goblin railway being opened up in Azj'Kahet, acting as the travel point from Khaz Algar to the Undermine. Xal might've enticed the goblins into stealing the relic and carting it off to Undermine, with her tagging along, trying to keep it out of the hands of the heroes, then using the relic to repair the Dark Heart.

We try and stop her but fail, and she attempts to bring all of Undermine down on our heads as part of the goblin raid and we have to save the place (and ourselves) but Xal gets away.

Now Xal can use the Heart to go deeper towards the Worldsoul, with the Rootlands acting as the zone around it and the Worldsoul structure itself being the scene of the final raid.

[Nymrohd]

I know it sounds silly but maybe Xal goes to Undermine because she needs a drill Perhaps she was counting on the Dark Heart to bore through the Coreway and into Rootlands and without it she now needs Azerite-powered drills and explosives.

Ofc Iridikron could probably get her there faster . . .

Alternatively, maybe the goblins of Kezan have dug too deep and she can get where she wants by following them beneath Undermine.

[Darkarath]

I know it sounds silly but maybe Xal goes to Undermine because she needs a drill Perhaps she was counting on the Dark Heart to bore through the Coreway and into Rootlands and without it she now needs Azerite-powered drills and explosives.

Ofc Iridikron could probably get her there faster . . .

Alternatively, maybe the goblins of Kezan have dug too deep and she can get where she wants by following them beneath Undermine.

It is certainly a possibility.

I like that we do not really know what happens next. After finishing every quest in TWW, I think that we can all agree that the Life theme is the strongest lead that we have, followed by the Goblin presence. But then we have the Beledar, of which we do not know nothing about, and the ocean of Hallowfall, which is very suspicious, and we all have done the fish questline by now, right?

We will have two big patches and two big zones in TWW, but I cannot see, let us say, The Rootlands and The Undermine and then move to Midnight.

[Super Dickmann]

I know it sounds silly but maybe Xal goes to Undermine because she needs a drill Perhaps she was counting on the Dark Heart to bore through the Coreway and into Rootlands and without it she now needs Azerite-powered drills and explosives.

I would unironically support the 11.1 hype pre-release cinematic consisting of Xal floating into Gallywix's office to offer him a barony in space in exchange for his services in getting to the core, whereupon he reveals he's way ahead of her and pulls the curtain on a comically large, phallic drill, which will be the scene of the Rootlands raid.

[Nymrohd]

I would unironically support the 11.1 hype pre-release cinematic consisting of Xal floating into Gallywix's office to offer him a barony in space in exchange for his services in getting to the core, whereupon he reveals he's way ahead of her and pulls the curtain on a comically large, phallic drill, which will be the scene of the Rootlands raid.

I just want an Achievement titled "Drill Baby, Drill". It would spice up all the anal spam.

Also, a mechanically augmented Kraken with drills in its tentacles that is named "The Fracken"

[Raetary]

https://x.com/Portergauge/status/1831887089652404354

Looks like Windrunner #3 will show up soon.

[Jolly Roger]

the black blood might react if mixed with Azerite and of course as we know azerite was not first encountered in BfA as it is supposed to be what led to goblin evolution. Xal could use gallywix to mine the deeper deposits of azerite and use them as a mixer with the black blood especially if azeroth is not naturally a titan.

[Raetary]

Reminder that Xal admitted that she lured us into a war with the Nerubians because that conflict empowered the Black Blood.
And we know that the blood is creeping onto the roots.

Everyone's speculating about drills and repairs, but the plot could be just straight forwardly Xal enabling an escalating conflict between the Goblin Cartels and the Haranir.