Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

Hahahaha so they destroyed totally good group content (delves pre-changes) thanks to solo mole people?

Wow.

Just wow.

So glad that content is dead for me next week.

No, they tried to fix the solo content to actually be for the people it is aimed at.

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Not really, alot of things in SL didn't happen. Lorthraxion and the book found in Revendreth which says he's a double agent springs to mind. How long am I supposed to wait or did he change his mind?

Major storylines are usually written 3-4 years in advance, forgetting that part pretty much summarised the entire the expansion and how it was wrote.

Possibly centuries. Provided he didn't actually get brainwashed by the Light. I don't really see much point to him dropping the ruse right now if he wasn't, either.

I prefer when they don't alyways fire all their shots immediately and leave some stuff to pick up again later.

[Dracullus]

Just few more days and minmaxers will leave delves alone. Probably they won't shut up how delves are useless and Blizzard should delete them, but they leave solo/casual content nevertheless when you will be able to spam M+ for better gear.

Of course Blizzard messed scaling a lot, but it is fixable within days. Whole concept of solo content where you can slowly gear up to Heroic level is still great.

[Tiradon]

Just few more days and minmaxers will leave delves alone. Probably they won't shut up how delves are useless and Blizzard should delete them, but they leave solo/casual content nevertheless when you will be able to spam M+ for better gear.

Of course Blizzard messed scaling a lot, but it is fixable within days. Whole concept of solo content where you can slowly gear up to Heroic level is still great.

Honestly they should have just capped loot at 595-600 and nobody would care. They could just change it mid patch for the more casual folk to get 610-615 later on..

Either that or made M+ available this week.

[Lady Atia]

No, they tried to fix the solo content to actually be for the people it is aimed at.

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Possibly centuries. Provided he didn't actually get brainwashed by the Light. I don't really see much point to him dropping the ruse right now if he wasn't, either.

I prefer when they don't alyways fire all their shots immediately and leave some stuff to pick up again later.

No, "fixing the solo content" would mean just making it easier for solo players, not harder for group players. Delves were supposed to be the OPEN WORLD pillar, not solo content pillar.

[micwini]

No, "fixing the solo content" would mean just making it easier for solo players, not harder for group players. Delves were supposed to be the OPEN WORLD pillar, not solo content pillar.

I mean it is obvious that they fucked up with the fixes right? Not from a design perspective, but from a pure execution perspective.
Things shouldn't be harder solo vs group. It should scale accordingly and it didnt. And now with the fixes the scaling is even worse.

[Lady Atia]

I mean it is obvious that they fucked up with the fixes right? Not from a design perspective, but from a pure execution perspective.
Things shouldn't be harder solo vs group. It should scale accordingly and it didnt. And now with the fixes the scaling is even worse.

Yeah truu. Lets hope they iterate on it next week.

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Meanwhile, solo rbg isn't giving any progress for the vic mounts aswell.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

What the hell, im getting one shotted now by some random mobs as warrior arms in solo delves?

I tried after reading the hotfix stuff, but wasn't getting one shotted like that before the hotfix..

[Raetary]

No, "fixing the solo content" would mean just making it easier for solo players, not harder for group players. Delves were supposed to be the OPEN WORLD pillar, not solo content pillar.

Absolutely not.
Delves solo difficulty was fine outside some of the overtuned caviats. (Waxface etc.)

The problem was that the delves scaled down while grouped rather than up, which is what should've happened.

Grouping up with a rando and having them afk at the entrance literally made the whole thing easier to solo.

[Alanar]

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Meanwhile, solo rbg isn't giving any progress for the vic mounts aswell.

Same as how, "earn conquest in arena" doesnt even work with solo q. I guess solo rbg doesnt work for titels either or mount.

In short, whats the point in solo q besides conquest points? Could be doing something else with your time and earn points faster.

[Lady Atia]

Same as how, "earn conquest in arena" doesnt even work with solo q. I guess solo rbg doesnt work for titels either or mount.

In short, whats the point in solo q besides conquest points? Could be doing something else with your time and earn points faster.

I can get everything in solo rbg including the rbg achievements, so it's for sure a bug.

For rating, it's ok if you can't easily push to 2k rating on week one, but I surely hope they think about making it easier to reach 1,8k by the end of the season or the game mode will be dead on arrival, especially if people are stuck in elo hells.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Im doing the spiral weave delve now, i didn't have problems with it before but now the new enemy type is always spawning on top of the objective, but in different forms and i get hit by millions by their basic ability that i can only interrupt once.. Compare that to brann healing, simply can't survive that as arms warrior, solo.
Can't stun them either.



They're called Zekvir heralds and never seen them before, always spawning in similar places on objective and this one is like 2 mini bosses in one, because they cast different abilities, can't stun them too. \
Something is wrong with Brann threat now as DPS too or it's just this enemy type, i was doing heroic throw yesterday and brann was taking aggro but now these added mini bosses won't even look at him.

[huth]

No, "fixing the solo content" would mean just making it easier for solo players, not harder for group players. Delves were supposed to be the OPEN WORLD pillar, not solo content pillar.

No, it wouldn't. Solo does not mean easy. It means you're doing it by yourself.

And they're instances, which immediately disqualifies them as Open World anything.

[milkmustache]

No, it wouldn't. Solo does not mean easy. It means you're doing it by yourself.

And they're instances, which immediately disqualifies them as Open World anything.

Blizzard has frequently catagorized Delves with Open World, instanced content or not.

Solo doesn't mean easy, but solo also doesn't mean near impossible at the midlevel tier.

[Sondrelk]

So now that the raid cinematic is out and all of that.
What do people think the next major patch will be about? And perhaps more importantly, what would people like it to be about?

Personally I imagine we will see the Rootlands invaded by the Gallywix. I am really not feeling the Harrinir as a plot element, so as it currently stands I would prefer for them to have as little focus as possible. And while Goblins are not necessarily all that interesting to me either, they are at least more fun.

As for what I want to see. I still really, really want us to go Underneath Silithus and Ahn'Qiraj. Seeing the true extent of the former Qiraji city. Ideally with us arriving by crossing the Sunless Sea via airship from Hallowfall. Have the Nerubians join us to explain what the Qiraji were, and why we have only seen a handful of Qiraji who could be considered sapient. Or why neither the Nerubians nor the Mantid seem to even consider the Qiraji worth discussing.

[micwini]

So now that the raid cinematic is out and all of that.
What do people think the next major patch will be about? And perhaps more importantly, what would people like it to be about?

Personally I imagine we will see the Rootlands invaded by the Gallywix. I am really not feeling the Harrinir as a plot element, so as it currently stands I would prefer for them to have as little focus as possible. And while Goblins are not necessarily all that interesting to me either, they are at least more fun.

As for what I want to see. I still really, really want us to go Underneath Silithus and Ahn'Qiraj. Seeing the true extent of the former Qiraji city. Ideally with us arriving by crossing the Sunless Sea via airship from Hallowfall. Have the Nerubians join us to explain what the Qiraji were, and why we have only seen a handful of Qiraji who could be considered sapient. Or why neither the Nerubians nor the Mantid seem to even consider the Qiraji worth discussing.

Love your passion about Silithus zone, but I don't think it will happen.
I think they will carve the path forward in the next 2 small patches and by 11.0.7, we should have a clear idea on where we're going.
Im thinking Undermine still:
- Reason for it would be to repair the artifact. Paralelling the goblins making the demon soul
- Lots of goblin related side quests, one of them namedropping it at the end
- Gazlowe appearance + short story
- Marin Noggenfogger is present as well. You save him on the beach after Dalaran's fall
- EZ-mine nodes
- Some new goblin assets (as far as I know. They could also be from BFA)
- Goblinraid.jpg
- Cinderbrew meadery is not in the M+ rotation and would fit a goblin patch seeing as it is kind of a Venture Co. dungeon

There is just a lot of things pointing at it being a major location in the near future.
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[Khaza-R]

Rootlands seems to be the most likely destination.

As for the story it will probably involve more of the black blood and the Unseeming. Personally I think the whisper, "Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it." has to do with the black blood and we're going to have to find a way to stop it from dragging everying in to that realm. I have zero clue how goblins will be involved though.

[OCoyne]

. I am really not feeling the Harrinir as a plot element, so as it currently stands I would prefer for them to have as little focus as possible. And while Goblins are not necessarily all that interesting to me either, they are at least more fun.

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Orwenya was literally in the TWW trailer for the most amount of time accumulated, she's getting a major storyline whether you like it or not.

This whole thing about Goblins is becoming a meme at this stage, all they've had is literally 1 piece of dialogue from the Earthern to something being underneath Dornogal, it's not something which is major in comparisons with Elune'Ahir, The Arathi or the Korbyss.
Every .2 patch seems to feature a mega dungeon alongside with the raid, it might get that but everything else is just approaching meme status

Regarding Delves, they've once again released it in a badly unfinished state, the way Healer Brann AI works is actually criminal. He will actually chase some mob to the other end of the map, forget he's a healer come back and give you 1 heal then restart the chase. It's just Torghast 1.0 PTSD all over again

[Nymrohd]

Why would you ever use Healer Brann though? Seriously, dps Brann is reliable and strong dps.

[Al Gorefiend]

Love your passion about Silithus zone, but I don't think it will happen.
I think they will carve the path forward in the next 2 small patches and by 11.0.7, we should have a clear idea on where we're going.
Im thinking Undermine still:
- Reason for it would be to repair the artifact. Paralelling the goblins making the demon soul
- Lots of goblin related side quests, one of them namedropping it at the end
- Gazlowe appearance + short story
- Marin Noggenfogger is present as well. You save him on the beach after Dalaran's fall
- EZ-mine nodes
- Some new goblin assets (as far as I know. They could also be from BFA)
- Goblinraid.jpg
- Cinderbrew meadery is not in the M+ rotation and would fit a goblin patch seeing as it is kind of a Venture Co. dungeon

There is just a lot of things pointing at it being a major location in the near future.
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Goblin patch seems most likely to me too.

[milkmustache]

So now that the raid cinematic is out and all of that.
What do people think the next major patch will be about? And perhaps more importantly, what would people like it to be about?

Personally I imagine we will see the Rootlands invaded by the Gallywix. I am really not feeling the Harrinir as a plot element, so as it currently stands I would prefer for them to have as little focus as possible. And while Goblins are not necessarily all that interesting to me either, they are at least more fun.

As for what I want to see. I still really, really want us to go Underneath Silithus and Ahn'Qiraj. Seeing the true extent of the former Qiraji city. Ideally with us arriving by crossing the Sunless Sea via airship from Hallowfall. Have the Nerubians join us to explain what the Qiraji were, and why we have only seen a handful of Qiraji who could be considered sapient. Or why neither the Nerubians nor the Mantid seem to even consider the Qiraji worth discussing.

I think we're seeing Goblin patch, micwini made all the points.

I don't imagine Rootlands and Goblins mixing. There's nothing to point to that and seems to be speculation plugging in the two things that we know will be future content.