Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Kiivar86]

For anyone curious, not sure if this is accurate but someone posted a picture of the Mountain Dew rewards and the points needed, as well as the points from products.

The motorcycle is 600 points. If you want that much, a 12 pack and 1 20 oz bottle of Diet Mountain Dew will get you there (500+100 points).

4,000 points will net you the Epic Edition for TWW. Yeah...

[micwini]

Anyone still in denial about 11.1 being Undermine?

I'm actually less believing after the 11.0.7 reveal than before, especially with the splash screen. Altho Undermine is a when, not if. If not 11.1, then certainly 11.2

[Joshuaj]

For anyone curious, not sure if this is accurate but someone posted a picture of the Mountain Dew rewards and the points needed, as well as the points from products.

The motorcycle is 600 points. If you want that much, a 12 pack and 1 20 oz bottle of Diet Mountain Dew will get you there (500+100 points).

4,000 points will net you the Epic Edition for TWW. Yeah...

Or, hear me out...

11.1.5.

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11.2 is probably having us enter an area right by Azeroth's Worldsoul.

[Khaza-R]

I might of missed it but anyone notice the image of a potentially updated Kezan in the background of the latest preview?

EDIT : Actually not sure its even updated. But still seems like a rather big tease from the devs.

[Kiivar86]

I might of missed it but anyone notice the image of a potentially updated Kezan in the background of the latest preview?

Thought I mentioned it here but seems I didn't, weird. Anyway yeah, though I dunno if its updated, but it is definitely Kezan. Very curious.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

So, during Cataclysm, it was stated and seen Deatwing ignited Mount Kajaro causing its eruption. Then in the Before the Storm novel, Gallywix implies that it was the goblins deep digging into Azeroth that caused the eruption, where they mined Azerite for the first time.

Being that we're back underground and more of Azeroth's essence takes a major role in the story, I suppose it would be safe to say that Gallywix has probably continued digging towards the core of the world. What if he is making his own "Coreway" to the worldsoul?

[Raetary]

It's the cata trailer stil of Bildgewater Port, it's not new:



Bildgewater Port was destroyed in cata by Deathwing and the Mount Kaujaro eruption, and the island received major upheaval after the Azerite surge in BfA.
So if Kezan does pop up along Undermine, don't expect it to look the way it does now.

[Dracullus]

It's the cata trailer stil of Bildgewater Port, it's not new:

I think people take it rather as hint from devs than first image of 11.1. But again, hard to tell if it's Undermine hint or just Goblin one.

[milkmustache]

Brutal honesty here? Orwenya is going somewhere, since one of her songs is leading her to a place. I'm half convinced that location is Kezan, specifically the Undermine.

This will lead to this ordeal: 11.1 being the Rootlands with a Goblin invasion raid (Think the Treetop Terrace mixed with the Falling Forest from Skylanders), and that will lead to the 11.1.5 storyline with us returning to Kezan and entering the Undermine.

Idk, I just can't imagine a zone that was originally intended for Vanilla being pushed to a megadungeon so we can introduce a new never before heard of area. That would just be a poor poor usage of it. I'm not doubting Rootlands btw, I totally think we'll be going there, just in 11.2.

[Teriz]

I might of missed it but anyone notice the image of a potentially updated Kezan in the background of the latest preview?

EDIT : Actually not sure its even updated. But still seems like a rather big tease from the devs.

That's definitely a tease.

[Joshuaj]

Idk, I just can't imagine a zone that was originally intended for Vanilla being pushed to a megadungeon so we can introduce a new never before heard of area. That would just be a poor poor usage of it. I'm not doubting Rootlands btw, I totally think we'll be going there, just in 11.2.

11.2 should be about what's beneath the Undersea ngl. There's a lot hinting at stuff there, and what better way to counter 11.1 by going further down compared to going up?

Also, eh? We've already seen some of Kezan in Cata, and ngl, the Undermine's been a long time coming. It being a Megadungeon would be just fine so long as there's a major story around it (Like with the Infinite Plotline in 10.1.5).

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That's definitely a tease.

This "tease" is actually where I think Orwenya's story is gonna go. She hears a song, she travels to the Siren Isle to better figure out what's up, she goes beyond the Siren Isle to Kezan, and within Kezan, she sees the Goblin's arsenal within the Undermine.

11.1 could then be the "Rootlands", with either an Undermine storyline and Raid (Where we fail to stop the Goblins from kickstarting their assault on the "Rootlands"), or a raid that'll lead to an Undermine megadungeon (Where we stop the initial Goblin assault, meet up with Orwenya at Kezan, and stop Gallywix or so at the city).

[milkmustache]

"Rootlands" combined with Undermine is the most interesting way they could approach it, really.

Just having explosive Goblin tech for an entire patch sounds awful. However, in contrast with a bunch of untamed and primordial life, it suddenly gets interesting.

Dwarves for a full expansion was a big argument against Khaz Algar in theorizing 11.0 and it's working just fine.

But I agree that the two should be linked in some form. I think it would just be a big mistake to not give us a crazy crammed city zone. We'll get untamed and primordial life zones in the future undoubtedly, but this is the one massive massive opportunity for a goblin city. First and only shot.

[Joshuaj]

Regardless, lots of potential to be had here.

[Syegfryed]

People, did we got the quest for the cool greenfire motorcycle? rly looking for it

[milkmustache]

This "tease" is actually where I think Orwenya's story is gonna go. She hears a song, she travels to the Siren Isle to better figure out what's up, she goes beyond the Siren Isle to Kezan, and within Kezan, she sees the Goblin's arsenal within the Undermine.

11.1 could then be the "Rootlands", with either an Undermine storyline and Raid (Where we fail to stop the Goblins from kickstarting their assault on the "Rootlands"), or a raid that'll lead to an Undermine megadungeon (Where we stop the initial Goblin assault, meet up with Orwenya at Kezan, and stop Gallywix or so at the city).

I just don't understand Orweyna venturing to Kezan, seeing Undermine and then just going all the way back home to the Rootlands just for us to go to Undermine for a megadungeon.

I just think the evidence for Undermine as a patch zone is far outweighing the idea of it being a megadungeon. That just doesn't make sense to me.

[Khaza-R]

Its also very possible the goblin related content just doesn't involve Undermine.

While I think that would be a bummer. Its not outside of the realm of possibility that Blizzard invents a new zone with some off-shoot goblins who were elevated by something other than kaja'mite.

[Teriz]

Its also very possible the goblin related content just doesn't involve Undermine.

While I think that would be a bummer. Its not outside of the realm of possibility that Blizzard invents a new zone with some off-shoot goblins who were elevated by something other than kaja'mite.

The issue is that Undermine has been name dropped both in TWW and DF. It also fits the theme of the expansion, and potentially as a follow up to the 11.0.7 patch, since Undermine/Kezan was reportedly teeming with Azerite.

[Joshuaj]

Its also very possible the goblin related content just doesn't involve Undermine.

While I think that would be a bummer. Its not outside of the realm of possibility that Blizzard invents a new zone with some off-shoot goblins who were elevated by something other than kaja'mite.

I mean, sure? But this is the underground expansion, and players have been wanting to see the Undermine for a long time now.

[Kiivar86]

The issue is that Undermine has been name dropped both in TWW and DF. It also fits the theme of the expansion, and potentially as a follow up to the 11.0.7 patch, since Undermine/Kezan was reportedly teeming with Azerite.

Just because it is name dropped doesn't mean its a sure thing, I mean, look at Avaloren after all.

People, did we got the quest for the cool greenfire motorcycle? rly looking for it

Not to my knowledge, at least not yet anyway.

[Teriz]

Just because it is name dropped doesn't mean it’s a sure thing, I mean, look at Avaloren after all.

Well its name dropped and we have its denizens (Goblins) all over the place. We also have the Goblin faction leader making a major appearance in this expansion. Even Wowhead has taken notice.


https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-gaz...-11-0-7-349568