Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Xilurm]

Also, your argument against other pantheons is a BIT moot considering they've doubled down on the Void Lord stuff lately. And yes, I would consider the Void Lords to be the Shadow Pantheon.

Void Lords aside, we don't know much about any of the other forces. Yet.

[Joshuaj]

Void Lords aside, we don't know much about any of the other forces. Yet.

The Eternal Ones.

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We know of 3 Pantheons so far. That's already halfway.

Life is speculated to have a pantheon, and the possibility of Light having a pantheon is pretty high.

Disorder is the only genuinely debatable one due to its nature.

[Khaza-R]

The Eternal Ones.

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We know of 3 Pantheons so far. That's already halfway.

Life is speculated to have a pantheon, and the possibility of Light having a pantheon is pretty high.

Disorder is the only genuinely debatable one due to its nature.

I am not really sure Void Lords function like a pantheon at all. Seems like its their nature to consume everything and eachother. Sort of like the Rule of One from the Sith.

[Eldryth]

The Void Lords existed since Legion, well before Shadowlands, and whether they are a true pantheon like the Titans remains to be seen. So far all we know of them is Dimensius trying to force his way into the physical world to devour everything.

[Joshuaj]

I am not really sure Void Lords function like a pantheon at all. Seems like its their nature to consume everything and eachother. Sort of like the Rule of One from the Sith.

See you're seeing a Pantheon as a unified front. A Pantheon is not an orderly thing inherently. The Outer Gods in Lovecraft would be considered a Pantheon, cause they're a group of Gods. But, like the Void Lords, they are chaotic, they have their own agendas, and they're not at all structured.

Being a Pantheon =/= being a unified front.

The Void Lords can be a pantheon and thrive on consuming or overlapping one another.

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The Void Lords existed since Legion, well before Shadowlands, and whether they are a true pantheon like the Titans remains to be seen. So far all we know of them is Dimensius trying to force his way into the physical world to devour everything.

Again, you're using "true pantheon" like it's an orderly thing. Pantheons aren't inherently structured.

The literal term for Pantheon is just "a group of gods". That's it.

Any group of gods, whether it be orderly or chaotic, is a pantheon.

[Xilurm]

The Eternal Ones.

They seem to be just robots that can be copy pasted at any time though.

[Joshuaj]

They seem to be just robots that can be copy pasted at any time though.

We know they have prototypes, but outside of the Arbiter, not quite sure the Eternal Ones themselves are made from the initial vessels and whatnot.

And even if they were, so what? Could just have it to where different pantheons are made in different ways.

[Eldryth]

Apparently an upcoming Warcraft 2 remake just got leaked. Hopefully a better one than Reforged (which I hope will also be fixed with that leaked 2.0 update).

I assume both will probably be revealed at the Warcraft Direct.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warcraf...iscord-webhook

[Joshuaj]

Apparently an upcoming Warcraft 2 remake just got leaked. Hopefully a better one than Reforged (which I hope will also be fixed with that leaked 2.0 update).

I assume both will probably be revealed at the Warcraft Direct.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warcraf...iscord-webhook

I hope we get both a WC2 remaster, as well as an OG WC remaster.

Orcs and Humans is so damn outdated when it compare it to modern WoW LMAO. Like dawg, look at OG Stormwind bruh HAHAHAHA

[Xilurm]

That one says Wc2 Remaster. Makes me think it's going to be more like the Starcraft Remaster than WC3 Reforged.

[Joshuaj]

That one says Wc2 Remaster. Makes me think it's going to be more like the Starcraft Remaster than WC3 Reforged.

Was thinking something like D2 remastered

[Xilurm]

Was thinking something like D2 remastered

Would be nice. That game looks good.

[Holdodlig]

I hope we get both a WC2 remaster, as well as an OG WC remaster.

Orcs and Humans is so damn outdated when it compare it to modern WoW LMAO. Like dawg, look at OG Stormwind bruh HAHAHAHA

Since they've renamed the Warcraft 3 Reforged category as "Warcraft RTS", it is likely that we'll get a big bundle.

[huth]

Tinker would be really cool as a class available to all classes, with tank, heal and ranged DPS specs.

I'm-a play a Druid Tinker!

[Nibelheimy]

Off-topic here, but that supposed leak thread from a few days ago has seemingly disappeared? Any info on if this is normal or not?

[Polybius]

Off-topic here, but that supposed leak thread from a few days ago has seemingly disappeared? Any info on if this is normal or not?

It's gone, the link doesn't work.

[Eldryth]

Off-topic here, but that supposed leak thread from a few days ago has seemingly disappeared? Any info on if this is normal or not?

I don't know where it went, but it definitely only seems less credible. It claimed to cover the entire franchise but was missing the RTS stuff we know about.

[Nibelheimy]

Was curious if this is a normal thing on this website. Been here 10 years but the leak threads around leak season usually crop up so fast and in such mass I can't remember specifically what happens to them generally.

Update - can see the "leak" quoted in this very thread some pages back, assuming independent thread has been deleted by the poster. I guess if it was deleted because of accuracy the post quoting it would of also been removed.

[BaumanKing]

Apparently an upcoming Warcraft 2 remake just got leaked. Hopefully a better one than Reforged (which I hope will also be fixed with that leaked 2.0 update).

I assume both will probably be revealed at the Warcraft Direct.

https://www.wowhead.com/news/warcraf...iscord-webhook

Now it makes perfect sense why all the Sons of Lothar were brought back into the spotlight in TWW. Just like Khadgar was brought back in WoD because of the upcoming movie. This excites me greatly.

I hope the cinematics aren't just upscaled versions, but completely remade. I want to finally see some of the glorious moments of WC2, like the duel between Lothar and Orgrim or the destruction of Draenor.

[Xilurm]

Was curious if this is a normal thing on this website. Been here 10 years but the leak threads around leak season usually crop up so fast and in such mass I can't remember specifically what happens to them generally.

Update - can see the "leak" quoted in this very thread some pages back, assuming independent thread has been deleted by the poster. I guess if it was deleted because of accuracy the post quoting it would of also been removed.

It's on the front page, posted by chaud who is one of the admins though.