Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

I think they will "unclog" the bottom of the current Coreway and reveal a path to another area that's deeper than all the rest, which has both the Rootlands and the entrance to the Worldcore. So they will be able to juggle both Titan and Life/Root vibes in the same zone and also keep the raid distinct from 10.2.

Rootlands could be a zone with multiple entrances too, because the green portal above Azj'Kahet is clearly going to be something.

[Ersula]

Of course not, because they were turned into dwarves by the curse of flesh and eventually broke out (or were freed by an earthquake or whatever...details).

Just to make it clear, the idea is that Khaz Modan-dwarves are all descendants of those Thraegar influenced by Azeroth. Maybe that influence is the reason why the Curse of Flesh affected them but not the "regular" Khaz Algar Earthen.

...Except there are still Earthen in Uldaman. Uldaman earthen were explicitly in stasis so the curse of flesh would not advance. We've scoured Uldaman so thoroughly we know everything about it. It was just one of Tyr's laboratories. It's not a prison. If the Ironforge ancestors were Thraegar, why would the Algarian Earthen have records of them but Ironforge does not. Ironforge's inception happened way closer to present day than the Algarian Earthen's memories. So many of the long lived races have recent memories of the evolution of the Dwarves considering it happened between 1000 & 1500 years ago. That's like one high elf lifetime. Stormwind would have records of Diamond men emerging from the mountain, but they don't. It's explicitly recorded as stone-men.

Also Uldorus isn't a prison either, The Vault of the Incarnates is a completely different place. They're next to each other, but Uldrous' explicit function is hiding the Dragon Isles.

[Golden Yak]

They added the new zone tag to the 11.2 summary

Nirvana.

I think this stuff:

is an indicator of what the new zone will be. Titan elements, heavy Black Blood infestation. I know it was included with the previews of Undermine, but it appears completely different from the Undermine region. We see a bit of goblin tech in one shot, I suspect this will be something on the fringe of this infested region, and it will involve us going deeper than ever.

I hope we also get a lot of Harronir elements with thorny growth and roots. This is the Rootlands zone - wildgrowth, Titan facilities like nothing we've seen above as we approach the Worldsoul, and worsening Black Blood infestation.

The raid will be the Worldcore - Titan influence, some regions where roots have broken in, and the final area is heavily infested with the Black Blood as Xal'atath tries to expose the Worldsoul to it.

[Timester]

RDR2 gambling is available in the story mode, but not in the online. If you can't use real money to buy casino chips/tokens then there's no reason to ban it.

Not how politicians see it. In many countries any type of online gambling has to be legislated, even virtual. That's why RDR2 and GTA Online gambling is banned.

This is why I put specific limitations in my Casino idea, so that things wouldn't go south (Such as having round limits per game a day, having a gold bet cap of 50, etc).

Would still be banned.

[Reive]

not long ago some "ethereal raid" items were datamined. do you think the new zone is going to be k'aresh?

[Timester]

not long ago some "ethereal raid" items were datamined. do you think the new zone is going to be k'aresh?

The Ethereal was Nexus-Princess Ky'veza in the Nerubian raid.

[Golden Yak]

K'aresh seems more likely as a Midnight zone, what with the heavy Void angle and all.

[Dracullus]

The Ethereal was Nexus-Princess Ky'veza in the Nerubian raid.

And it was tease for something bigger involving Ethereals. In past expacs I would say it's clear tease for final or middle patch, but now with this Saga thing they may think about bigger picture. If Void is dealt in Midnight, clearly K'aresh sounds like suitable patch.

Also, I must say Silvermoon->Sunwell->K'aresh rhymes nicely with Legion's Suramar->Tomb->Argus, although I picture Silvermoon as hub and Amani as first tier.

[Timester]

And it was tease for something bigger involving Ethereals. In past expacs I would say it's clear tease for final or middle patch, but now with this Saga thing they may think about bigger picture. If Void is dealt in Midnight, clearly K'aresh sounds like suitable patch.

Also, I must say Silvermoon->Sunwell->K'aresh rhymes nicely with Legion's Suramar->Tomb->Argus, although I picture Silvermoon as hub and Amani as first tier.

Void isn't dealt in Midnight, Xal'atath will be the main villain for the entire Saga.

[Khaza-R]

I think we will definitely see some Ethereal activity in Undermine and possibly 11.1.5. But I think the core of their story will be tied to Alleria and the Locus Walker in Midnight.

[Samin]

Void isn't dealt in Midnight, Xal'atath will be the main villain for the entire Saga.

I don't think it's guaranteed that Xal survives Midnight, but it's certainly possible (if only because of fan service). But the void will be "dealth with" in Midnight.

You will not only help reunify the scattered elven tribes of Azeroth, but you will make your stand with the forces of the light and banish the shadow forever.

[Timester]

I don't think it's set in stone that Xal survives Midnight, but it's certainly possible (if only because of fan service). But the void will be "dealth with" in Midnight.

Metzen already said it that Xal will be confronted multiple times over the arc of the Saga, not one in time done raid boss.



Starts at minute 20.

[Samin]

We've already confronted her multiple times and will again in Midnight.

What he said was by no means a reference to literal combat encounters.

Again, that wasn't really the point I was making. The void will be dealt with in Midnight

[Timester]

We've already confronted her multiple times and will again in Midnight.

What he said was by no means a reference to literal combat encounters.

The arc of the Saga. The three expansions.

[Dracullus]

Void isn't dealt in Midnight, Xal'atath will be the main villain for the entire Saga.

And Metzen said we will banish Shadow forever. And later he said things may go not to plan. It's not certain dude, Xalatath and Void man remain main villains for whole Saga, but many speculate that Titans/Order will be against us in Last Titan.

Also, Metzen said she won't be one and done villain like Deathwing and we encounter her multiple times during Saga, I'm listening to this interview right now. Just 2 months of Chinese whispers and suddenly she has plot armor bigger than Anduin xD.

What he said was by no means a reference to literal combat encounters.

Oh, that's another thing. She may be final boss in Worldcore and simply.. win, just like Jailer in 9.1.

[Samin]

Yes and if she appears in part 1 & 2, that is multiple times across the arc of the Saga. He contrasts it against Deathwing who is very absent in the story of Cata versus Xal who is more involved and not just a single raid encounter at the end.

What you're thinking he said is "all the way throughout the Saga".

Again, it could be all throughout the saga, but that's not what Metzen said. it's ambiguous.

[Darkarath]

https://x.com/MrGMYT/status/1857093329038549182

Well, we can throw yesterday discussion to trash. New zone for 11.2 confirmed.

Very glad about this.

Confidence is restored.

[Timester]

Yes and if she appears in part 1 & 2, that is multiple times across the arc of the Saga. He contrasts it against Deathwing who is very absent in the story of Cata versus Xal who is more involved and not just a single raid encounter at the end.

What you're thinking he said is "all the way throughout the Saga".

Again, it could be all throughout the saga, but that's not what Metzen said. it's ambiguous.

It's the fact of "arc of the Saga". It's a clear definition of a story with three parts, not like the previous expansions. So Xal has to been seen in the new concept of Saga.

[Sinstrike]

Player housing leaked a while back by someone who certainly wasn't me....

https://imgur.com/a/1DAHkjc

[Sondrelk]

Player housing leaked a while back by someone who certainly wasn't me....

https://imgur.com/a/1DAHkjc

Wow. Truly some visionary people who predicted housing and really went against the grain.

Honestly, it is still kinda surprising we are actually getting it. Sure, Midnight is exactly hte kind of expansion I predicted housing would appear in years ago, but even then I didnt actually think we would see it.