Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joshuaj]

Not how politicians see it. In many countries any type of online gambling has to be legislated, even virtual. That's why RDR2 and GTA Online gambling is banned.



Would still be banned.

This is me rn.

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Player housing leaked a while back by someone who certainly wasn't me....

https://imgur.com/a/1DAHkjc

...This is the fake login screen, isn't it?

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Oh my god it wasn't...

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I don't think it's guaranteed that Xal survives Midnight, but it's certainly possible (if only because of fan service). But the void will be "dealth with" in Midnight.

If you think "forever" actually means forever in WoW, boy do I have some news for you.

[Cheezits]

Red Shirt Guy pointed out the guy in the housing video is a High Elf in a Human themed house. Take that as you will.

[Alanar]

I wonder if we will be able to go to the isle of Kezan too, above Undermine.

Wondering that to.

[huth]

You're saying a car would fit in Lord of the Rings?

No, i'm saying the reason it doesn't has nothing to do with it being Fantasy.

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I think the key difference is in presentation. The cars at Mirage Raceway weren't modern cars with internal combustion engines, they were driven by rockets.

We built those before we built rocket cars. Just saying.

[Joshuaj]

So...this was on Kosak's post regarding the conceptualization of the Cosmology Chart. Seems the idea for "Lords of Death" were in the cards for a while now, and the Void Lords were seemingly planned as well...but it's Light that interests me...

They likely won't be named "The Archons" anymore, but it does seem Blizzard had plans to make Lords of Light. Potentially, this could still be in the cards.

[huth]

Guys, forget any kind of virtual casino, as it's actually banned in many countries any type of casino. The GTA Online Casino DLC is banned in many countries for the same reason. Just forget it.



It's also banned.

Dragonquest seems to be doing that just fine, and as a base game feature too. Chances are the issue is on something else with GTA.

[Joshuaj]

In other older things, Light was also called "creation", and Death had all the attributes of Shadow, not Void.

But now? "Creation" seems to be its own type of magic and whatnot, being associated with the First Ones, and Void is part of the influence of Shadow. "Wratih Lords" became the Eternal Ones, etc.

Seems that, during the conceptualization of the Chronicle chart, they actually did intend for the Shadowlands to be what the Veil is now (Which makes sense for the old lore). But now, things have obviously changed.

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They also tried to attribute each element with specific Cosmic Forces, and ngl, I'm glad that's changed. Never liked the idea of the elements being linked inherently with a force.

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"WoW will never have Light Lords. The Naaru should be the top dogs of the Light"

I'm so glad even Blizzard disagrees with some of y'all. These takes were just not it.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

In other older things, Light was also called "creation", and Death had all the attributes of Shadow, not Void.

But now? "Creation" seems to be its own type of magic and whatnot, being associated with the First Ones, and Void is part of the influence of Shadow. "Wratih Lords" became the Eternal Ones, etc.

Seems that, during the conceptualization of the Chronicle chart, they actually did intend for the Shadowlands to be what the Veil is now (Which makes sense for the old lore). But now, things have obviously changed.

So, somehow, they managed to make it inexplicably massively worse. Did they say what the catalyst was for this awful mistake?

Interesting how they were going to name the naaru's overlords "Archons". Were they deliberately trying to evoke Gnosticism or did they randomly pick a name they thought sounded cool?

[milkmustache]

So to avoid more cosmic bullshit talk--

What are some other potential encounters we may have in The Liberation of Undermine? What are the potential secrets hidden in the Galageo with Gallywix? Do ethereals or brokers appear?

[Dracullus]

I wonder if we will be able to go to the isle of Kezan too, above Undermine.

Yeah, I hope they'll bend geography a little and deal with it without loading screen. Tunnel from Ringing Deeps to Undermine, then tunnel to Kezan (could have close to no content it was destroyed by Deathwing after all) and flight master or just flying back to Isle of Dorn.

We should see soon anyway, can't imagine first PTR after Christmas.

[micwini]

So to avoid more cosmic bullshit talk--

What are some other potential encounters we may have in The Liberation of Undermine? What are the potential secrets hidden in the Galageo with Gallywix? Do ethereals or brokers appear?

Gallywix dreadlord reveal

[Kiivar86]

So to avoid more cosmic bullshit talk--

What are some other potential encounters we may have in The Liberation of Undermine? What are the potential secrets hidden in the Galageo with Gallywix? Do ethereals or brokers appear?

Based on the screenshots, an ape fight, robot t-rex too. Perhaps in the same fight (like fighting in an arena).

Some sort of alchemically created creature with the black blood no doubt too. I'd expect ethereals, too.

[milkmustache]

Gallywix dreadlord reveal

I know this is probably tongue in cheek but I think someone proposed a fairly interesting take on that earlier on?

I think that could be really fun. The Nazrethem were always sort of vague in their alleigences until Shadowlands, but I think they still have this hired gun self vested interest air about them. Whatever comes in Midnight, it would be cool to see the Nathrezem as part of their invasion force. Part of the Legion's invasion feeling so brutal was that there were just massive amounts of troops. We'll get a lot of Shadowguard Ethereals in Midnight, but diversifying the Void's troops would be really fun.

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Based on the screenshots, an ape fight, robot t-rex too. Perhaps in the same fight (like fighting in an arena).

Some sort of alchemically created creature with the black blood no doubt too. I'd expect ethereals, too.

Some sort of tongue in cheek Godzilla vs Kong reference there I'm sure. You're right that they pointed out "alchemically inclined" when speaking about the goblins, so I'm sure that further extraction of the black blood will be on the list of Xal's involvements in Undermine.

[Kiivar86]

Some sort of tongue in cheek Godzilla vs Kong reference there I'm sure. You're right that they pointed out "alchemically inclined" when speaking about the goblins, so I'm sure that further extraction of the black blood will be on the list of Xal's involvements in Undermine.

Yeah, I'd expect nothing less of the goblins, and haha I didn't even think of Godzilla vs Kong there, good point.

Also there's a Goblin-aesthetic Azerite war machine (like the faction world boss in the updated Arathi Highlands) with what looks like a flame wall behind it, so I could see that being a boss too. With his involvement with Azerite, it'd make sense.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I don't think it's guaranteed that Xal survives Midnight, but it's certainly possible (if only because of fan service). But the void will be "dealth with" in Midnight.

Keep in mind metzen follows up “banish the shadow forever” with “that doesn’t go as planned” in the very next sentence.

[Cheezits]

There is a fairly lengthy theory that Gallywix is not only an unironic dreadlord but Detheroc himself. While I think it's a longshot it's a fun idea and the fact that Gallywix was the one to show Sylvanas the Azerite (confirming a Jailer "prophecy") is an interesting point. Also general gluttony - sin - revendreth vibe (and they made Detheroc into a fatty in WC3RE)

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-The-Nathrezim

I think the ACTUAL dark secret will be Gallywix sold us out to the ethereals and Xal and/or repaired the dark heart, but this would be amazing too.

[Sondrelk]

Based on the screenshots, an ape fight, robot t-rex too. Perhaps in the same fight (like fighting in an arena).

Some sort of alchemically created creature with the black blood no doubt too. I'd expect ethereals, too.

Going to assume at least one crazy alchemist, and one classic Goblin in a mechsuit. Just to really cover their bases in terms of Goblin tropes.

[Khaza-R]

So to avoid more cosmic bullshit talk--

What are some other potential encounters we may have in The Liberation of Undermine? What are the potential secrets hidden in the Galageo with Gallywix? Do ethereals or brokers appear?

Definitely whatever the artifact he got from Tazavesh.

Seeing Cartel Ve and maybe a cameo from Ve'nari would be cool.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Man, I'm finally going to get this car after all this time.

I started out pretty young around Cataclysm, I've been dreaming of having this ride since I was a kid! I can't believe I'm going to have a childhood dream come true + housing... I feel like I'm going to wake up and it'll all be just another dream.

[milkmustache]

Going to assume at least one crazy alchemist, and one classic Goblin in a mechsuit. Just to really cover their bases in terms of Goblin tropes.

There's a promo still with a Hobgoblin in something that seems to be a mix between a hazmat suit and a classic fantasy alchemist's robing, and I really dig the look. I hope there's a boss in that vein.