Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

Anything with titans or cosmic is a no from me.

So what are you doing here? WoW is a no from you according to your own standards.

[Malorne the White Stag]

Tbh tinkers being able to make custom spells/skills puts them about all others for me. Like, that sounds like chaos waiting to happen and I am there for it.

[Cheezits]

Tbh tinkers being able to make custom spells/skills puts them about all others for me. Like, that sounds like chaos waiting to happen and I am there for it.

The custom part for Tinkers made me think there will be customizable/selectable skins for different tech to represent the different races.

[FossilFree]

I'm also questioning how legit this thing is. As far as I have seen nobody could verify this by also having received the poll. Also since there seems to be only the german one and none from any other languages I am just thinking this might be some elaborate AI crap until we have more people reporting on it.

The classes and descriptions also seem to lean a bit too much into fan favourites while giving nothing solid to work with.

There was a forum thread in the US forums talking about getting it, at least until several people got told they were breaking the NDA of the survey by even discussing it.

[Enrif]

The custom part for Tinkers made me think there will be customizable/selectable skins for different tech to represent the different races.

i think more of the line of the old glyph system, where glyphs changed skill more than the current visual only glyphs

[Supertoster]

Tinker and Artificer should be combined into 1 class. And they should add new weapon type of pistols and hand-crossbows (1H ranged weapons) and give it to Tinkers, Hunters and Rogues. Making a new class based purely on guns is weird, because we already have MM Hunters.
Bard option also sounds fun, but I would prefer Tinker.

Everything else is kinda lame.

[Joshuaj]

Tinker and Artificer should be combined into 1 class. And they should add new weapon type of pistols and hand-crossbows (1H ranged weapons) and give it to Tinkers, Hunters and Rogues. Making a new class based purely on guns is weird, because we already have MM Hunters.
Bard option also sounds fun, but I would prefer Tinker.

Everything else is kinda lame.

Tinker Class with Artificer and Constructioneer as specs.

[Lahis]

To add to this, the Gunner and Gunslinger are in german Pistolenschütze and Revolverheld. If i would translate them literally it would be Pistolshooter and Revolverhero. If you wouldn't know anything, they both mean nearly the same in german. YET, there i can use WoWhead again. There is a talent called Revolverheld for outlaw rogue artifact weapon (https://www.wowhead.com/de/spell=202522/revolverheld), the same talent in english is Gunslinger (https://www.wowhead.com/spell=202522/gunslinger). As for Pistolenschütze, it is such a obscure word to use, it is only used in 1 item in the whole game (https://www.wowhead.com/de/item=1593...nsch%C3%BCtzen), and the englisch version uses the word Pistoleer (https://www.wowhead.com/de/item=1593...nsch%C3%BCtzen), yet i can't see blizzard use Pistoleer as a class name, rather than Gunner, as Gunner is a far more common word in Warcraft (https://www.wowhead.com/search?q=gunner#npcs), and has multiple translations into german, among them Kannonier and Schütze, and Schütze is very close to Pistolenschütze.

Some days ago I was thinking if they could add one handed guns and crossbows into the game. Hunters could use them naturally, possibly a 4th Gunslinger Rogue spec (didn't think it would fill whole new class with multiple specs). Then those weapons could also be used by possible tinker or bard classes.

[Polybius]

You don't have to dig deep to find a song/music as an important plotpoint, considering the Radiant Song being one of the main reasons we even went out, explored Khaz Algar and discovered more about Azeroth. With Azeroths communication with Magni also often referred to as music/singing/song iirc.

If anything the 7th force would be something like (free) will, which is something every force is opposed to in one way or another while also being the one thing Azeroth was able to give the Earthen even while imprisoned and being put to sleep by the titans.

This is conjuring images of the pied piper and using the voice to free oneself. Curious if we’ll nullify Titansworn edicts with sound come TLT.

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The custom part for Tinkers made me think there will be customizable/selectable skins for different tech to represent the different races.

The potential… Customizable tech, rocket double jump, use of the new evoker spell charging system for weapons.

[allegrian]

I would totally play/main a Tinker and a Warden

[vintage79]

I can't believe how much blizzard is detached from its community and what blizz 'creates' by themselves - there's nothing to think about, and of course 99% of the community want papa blizz to FINALLY add the tinker class to the game. This is the last class that is lore-wise from the times of the RTS warcraft game and which is still not in WoW. The next big patch is about the city of goblins - tinkers - it's the perfect time to create a starting zone and place them in the 'current' lore.

[Teriz]

The custom part for Tinkers made me think there will be customizable/selectable skins for different tech to represent the different races.

If its taking a page from Hearthstone, it's probably a set number of combinations that lead to a certain ability.

For example, there's probably option 1 where you choose three things (6 possible options) Example: Robot mobility (legs, treads, spider walker, etc)
Then there's option 2 where you choose three more things. (6 possible options) Example: Weapon systems (Guns, Missiles, Flame throwers, etc.)
Then there's option 3 where you choose three more things. (6 possible options) Example: Additional effect (Explodes when expires, Poisons target, AoE heal, etc.)

Your choices create a varied (yet controlled) outcome that still gives you the sense of randomness. Personally those are some of my favorite cards in Hearthstone.

[Trazzle]

I can't believe how much blizzard is detached from its community and what blizz 'creates' by themselves - there's nothing to think about, and of course 99% of the community want papa blizz to FINALLY add the tinker class to the game. This is the last class that is lore-wise from the times of the RTS warcraft game and which is still not in WoW. The next big patch is about the city of goblins - tinkers - it's the perfect time to create a starting zone and place them in the 'current' lore.

Preach it brother! Machine Speakers rise up!

[Ersula]

Not quite sure y'all get the point of the whole "seventh power" build up...

I don't think something mentioned once at the moment of an unpopular villains death counts as a build up. The "Seventh Power" is correctly filed in the big folder of probably forgotten unresolved plotpoints.

Tinker and Artificer should be combined into 1 class. And they should add new weapon type of pistols and hand-crossbows (1H ranged weapons) and give it to Tinkers, Hunters and Rogues. Making a new class based purely on guns is weird, because we already have MM Hunters.
Bard option also sounds fun, but I would prefer Tinker.

Everything else is kinda lame.

I'm guessing the second tier of potential "classes" are actually ideas for hero talents. Bard, Tinker, Pistol-based class & blatant-rippoff-of-a-ffxiv class are what people have been asking for for years.

[Joshuaj]

I don't think something mentioned once at the moment of an unpopular villains death counts as a build up. The "Seventh Power" is correctly filed in the big folder of probably forgotten unresolved plotpoints.I'm guessing the second tier of potential "classes" are actually ideas for hero talents. Bard, Tinker, Pistol-based class & blatant-rippoff-of-a-ffxiv class are what people have been asking for for years.

You do realize it was talked about prior to even SL, yeah? Like you can argue the build up started as early as Legion.

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Or would it be considered cheating to bring up the crooked serpent stuff?

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Also, the Seventh Power is something that's only STARTED to be properly discussed in SL. The mystery of this power, alongside the mystery of the Progenitors as a whole, is meant to last for quite a while. Blizzard did not expect players to solve said mysteries in Eternity's End.

However, what Blizzard doesn't know is this...

I'm not like "most players"! I'm different! I know things! I study things (both past and present)! I speculate future events! I solve mysteries! I unlock secrets! I reveal the truth! And above all else? I plan ahead with this knowledge! I'm aware! I've transcended!

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Of course, that doesn't mean I'm immune to being wrong. I've been wrong before (Such as me assuming we'd go to the Realm of Life in SL, or me assuming Zereth Mortis could be in the Domain of Life, which was absolutely wrong of me to say, and looking back, I feel silly assuming that lol).

But I learn, and I evolve.

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And before you all say it...

Is it really an ego if what I speculated regarding the origins of the Warcraft Universe has proven true for the most part, and all those that disagreed with me have been put in the fucking dirt?

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I deserve this small bit of self-glazing.

[Chickat]

11.1 giving ZARALEK CAVERN VIBES??? Seriously???

Its giving Nazjatar vibes to me.

[Joshuaj]

Its giving Nazjatar vibes to me.

I can agree to that.

[Chickat]

I can agree to that.

Im going off pure vibes, but im guessing its going to be the best patch since 8.2. Purely from an outdoor zone perspective.

[TeslaLee]

Tinker! it will match perfectly with the Mimiron expansion (The Last Titan), and a new tank is also needed in the game. Tinker class has several possibilities, imagine putting a Tesla coil in the battle compo, controlling drones, laser, mecha, holograms, bombs, turrets, creating an energy cage, etc... I really wanted to see this class in action.

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The Tinker class offers enormous potential for creating a unique and fun gaming experience. With good design and balancing, it can become one of the pillars of any MMORPG.

[milkmustache]

Wow. Okay.

Anyway,

Tinker! it will match perfectly with the Mimiron expansion (The Last Titan), and a new tank is also needed in the game. Tinker class has several possibilities, imagine putting a Tesla coil in the battle compo, controlling drones, laser, mecha, holograms, bombs, turrets, creating an energy cage, etc... I really wanted to see this class in action.

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The Tinker class offers enormous potential for creating a unique and fun gaming experience. With good design and balancing, it can become one of the pillars of any MMORPG.

I completely agree. I'm honestly a bit surprised we're not seeing a tinker class here in Khaz Algar, especially considering we're visiting Undermine this expansion. The machine speakers and goblin cartels are enough to justify it.

I'm interested the route in which it's taken if it comes about, though. There are a lot of different techs that seem to be tied to race Draenei, Mag'har, Goblins, Gnomes, Mechagnomes, Nightborne, Blood Elves, Dwarves and Earthen all have their own distinct flairs. Is it racially based in aesthetic, or will they make it Titan material based