Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[JDBlou]

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After playing through the full Undermine campaign there's a few interesting notes, I will try to keep the spoilers to a minimum but I will still tag them. Mostly related to theories from this thread.

-Through a letter, it is hinted that Xal gave the Dark Heart to the Goblins because of Ancient Goblins working on the Dark Heart for Deathwing. Which has been theorized here often.

I rather suspect they'll try to establish the nature behind the goblins that created the Demon Soul for Deathwing in the first place, hopefully adding more substance to Goblin origins than as just Mimiron's experiments. I'd guess that if Xal'atath wants to repair the Dark Heart she'll go to Undermine and make a deal with some dark Goblin cartel (could even just be Venture Co.) to repair it, quite possibly now led by Gallywix, who will quite reasonably be the tier final raid boss, possibly (somehow) even more grotesquely twisted by a dark bargain with her.

Glad to know my hunch was right

[Ersula]

I can see the Rootlands being 10.2 content. Hopefully the raid will bring us to the Worldsoul. Apparently that was the consensus in a Blizzard panel regarding WoW a while back.

I have to assume the Rootlands & the Coreway will be combined into one season. Because it wouldn't make sense for either to show up later in the saga. Maybe we go back to the Coreway as the finale of the saga....but why would the characters wait that long to go there. They want to go there right now.

[milkmustache]

I have to assume the Rootlands & the Coreway will be combined into one season. Because it wouldn't make sense for either to show up later in the saga. Maybe we go back to the Coreway as the finale of the saga....but why would the characters wait that long to go there. They want to go there right now.

The Coreway could not be fixed in time and then Xal makes her gambit for the Sunwell? But we still don't know if we're protecting Quel'thalas from an invasion or if we are defending it from an invasion.

It does feel like the Coreway has to be mixed with the Rootlands, but that would be strange as the Rootlands and the Haranir seem to be a secret society. The Rootlands really feels out of place in the trajectory of the story, but I'm sure they'll do it well.

[Joshuaj]

The Coreway could not be fixed in time and then Xal makes her gambit for the Sunwell? But we still don't know if we're protecting Quel'thalas from an invasion or if we are defending it from an invasion.

It does feel like the Coreway has to be mixed with the Rootlands, but that would be strange as the Rootlands and the Haranir seem to be a secret society. The Rootlands really feels out of place in the trajectory of the story, but I'm sure they'll do it well.

Either the Elun'ahir roots are connected with Azeroth's Worldsoul, or the Undersea possesses a unique way to the Worldsoul.

[Scyth]

Surely the Beledar will have some role in the story, right? No way they just completely ignore it.

[huth]

The Coreway could not be fixed in time and then Xal makes her gambit for the Sunwell? But we still don't know if we're protecting Quel'thalas from an invasion or if we are defending it from an invasion.

It does feel like the Coreway has to be mixed with the Rootlands, but that would be strange as the Rootlands and the Haranir seem to be a secret society. The Rootlands really feels out of place in the trajectory of the story, but I'm sure they'll do it well.

My understanding is that the Coreway isn't actually important anymore and the Keepers only tasked the Earthen with maintaining it to keep them busy and out of the way to mitigate the whole Thraegar thing.

[milkmustache]

Surely the Beledar will have some role in the story, right? No way they just completely ignore it.

I think a general consensus so far is that Beledar will be the inciting action for Midnight as the Dark Heart was for TWW. There are just too many signs pointing to Beledar, the Arathi and the Light for it to just be a set piece.

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My understanding is that the Coreway isn't actually important anymore and the Keepers only tasked the Earthen with maintaining it to keep them busy and out of the way to mitigate the whole Thraegar thing.

I suppose this makes sense. I wonder if we'll see Thraegar in 11.2 then.

[BaumanKing]

The most powerful mage on Azeroth speaks about restoring the most powerful organization of mortal mages on Azeroth. This is confusing to you?

Well, for example, the writers justify your Turalyon's long absence from anything important in the main plot by saying that he is the regent of Stormwind. He is supposedly too busy. Meanwhile, Jaina is capable of being everywhere at once. She is the leader of Kul Tiras, she is the leader of the Alliance army on Khaz Algar, she found time to resolve the conflict on Arathi, and now she will also be rebuilding the Kirin Tor. Don't you think that's too much for just one character?

[Enrif]

Well, for example, the writers justify your Turalyon's long absence from anything important in the main plot by saying that he is the regent of Stormwind. He is supposedly too busy. Meanwhile, Jaina is capable of being everywhere at once. She is the leader of Kul Tiras, she is the leader of the Alliance army on Khaz Algar, she found time to resolve the conflict on Arathi, and now she will also be rebuilding the Kirin Tor. Don't you think that's too much for just one character?

She can teleport at will, and has a mother and brother who can handle Kul Tiras in her absence. Who does Stormwind have? Genn has to take care of Gilneas now again and guiding his daughter.

[huth]

I think a general consensus so far is that Beledar will be the inciting action for Midnight as the Dark Heart was for TWW. There are just too many signs pointing to Beledar, the Arathi and the Light for it to just be a set piece.

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I suppose this makes sense. I wonder if we'll see Thraegar in 11.2 then.

You already saw one when the Stonevault was re-activated. And now everybody who did the questline can make one.

[Nymrohd]

Surely the Beledar will have some role in the story, right? No way they just completely ignore it.

11.1.5 is probably the Beledar event

[Jaggler]

After dealing with the Black Blood again I would kinda love to have the final raid to be us venturing into an Old God corpse to destroy the source of it, with an aesthetic like that one section in Ny'alotha, interspersed with ruins/structures the old god grew over.

[Joshuaj]

After dealing with the Black Blood again I would kinda love to have the final raid to be us venturing into an Old God corpse to destroy the source of it, with an aesthetic like that one section in Ny'alotha, interspersed with ruins/structures the old god grew over.

*Looks at AQ40*

I mean...we KINDA got that already.

[Lady Atia]

*Looks at AQ40*

I mean...we KINDA got that already.

And I still want a modern AQ (mini?) raid or megadungeon that follows up on the Sword and it's affects on the quiraji and the corpse there.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Don't you think that's too much for just one character?

You make it seem like all of these things happening at one time, are still happening at the same time. It's not hard to believe that the passage of time occurs inside of the game. No I do not think it's too much. The story is progressing. This comes off as you wanting it to be too much.

[Jaggler]

*Looks at AQ40*

I mean...we KINDA got that already.

Yeah, sure, but that was ages ago, and were crawling through a hive , not really through C'thuns body.
We had Black Wing Lair in Classic and Black Wing Descent in Cata.
We had Ulduar in WotLK and Antorus also used titan aesthetics.

I don't think "having similar themes and aesthetics about 20 years apart" is a reason not to do a certain raid.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

*Looks at AQ40*

I mean...we KINDA got that already.

Hardly the same thing, at all. AQ were temple ruins with an Old God at the center. Ny'alotha was completely different.

Considering the area where Il'gynoth was fought and even fighting your way towards (and inside) of Carapace of N'Zoth afterall.

[Timester]

Well, for example, the writers justify your Turalyon's long absence from anything important in the main plot by saying that he is the regent of Stormwind. He is supposedly too busy. Meanwhile, Jaina is capable of being everywhere at once. She is the leader of Kul Tiras, she is the leader of the Alliance army on Khaz Algar, she found time to resolve the conflict on Arathi, and now she will also be rebuilding the Kirin Tor. Don't you think that's too much for just one character?

The King of Stormwind is already on the field, you can't have the King and the Regent away.

Jaina is different because she can teleport at whim and was leader of Kirin Tor and Dalaran.

[Enrif]

The King of Stormwind is already on the field, you can't have the King and the Regent away.

Jaina is different because she can teleport at whim and was leader of Kirin Tor and Dalaran.

And Jaina has a Mother and Brother who can rule in her absence.

[Timester]

And Jaina has a Mother and Brother who can rule in her absence.

It's something that Blizzard really needs to resolve once and for all. Stormwind is one death away to collapse into a possible civil war and/or a military takeover. Just in WoW lore, it had three regents.