Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lorgar Aurelian]

And what would it be for the Alliance? I know so many different races I'd like to see in the Horde (they still don't even have Ogres!!!) but Alliance seems pretty damn complete.

I like the pipe dream of Amani as natural, but that’s not very likely. But if there going with enemies to allies and links to elves the Naga seem like the obvious answer.

[Nymrohd]

I like the pipe dream of Amani as natural, but that’s not very likely. But if there going with enemies to allies and links to elves the Naga seem like the obvious answer.

The Revantusk forest trolls are already a Horde faction, just not playable

[Makabreska]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

[Ersula]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

That's true, though we also killed a lot of Zandalari & they're in the Horde now. The Zandalari called for a Worldwide Troll summit & discuss joining the horde. The Amani dismissed the idea immediately, the Gurubashi considered it but were experimented on by a Zandalari witch doctor, so dropped that idea & the Farraki acted like they were going to join before joining Zul's coup.

So it all depends on what the plot of the expansion is. Amani Likewise, people are talking about a single elf nation but that's pre-mature. I don't think everyone's moving into Silvermoon; I just think its going to feature the void elves, Silver Covenant, Sunreavers, Dark Rangers & Blood Knights all coming to silvermoon's defense due to some existential threat.

[Raetary]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

Whether the greater Amani tribe joins along is another question, but the Revantusk already stand with the Horde and have done so since cata.

[Cheezits]

Amani will be allies because they need to expand on Zulaman to be a zone for there to be enough variety in Quelthalas, and they won't do another genocide plot ever again. It's an easy in for more zone aesthetics that are actually in QT instead of the the fringe areas like Lordaeron/surprise naga zone/Karesh portal at launch.

[Ersula]

Whether the greater Amani tribe joins along is another question, but the Revantusk already stand with the Horde and have done so since cata.

That's part of the Tribes being less homogenous as time goes on. Revan were formerly Amani, but joining the Horde makes them not in the Amani empire anymore. Darkspear itself mainly consists of former Forest Trolls & Dark Trolls. (Darkspear are typically called Island Trolls, but Islands didn't exist before the Sundering so the Darkspear have this unique heritage of displacement)

[Nymrohd]

Not sure in what world Amain would join any player faction, considering we killed them in BC's Zul'Aman, Cata's Zul'Aman (so we sacked their capital twice) and MoP ToT.

Dunno, maybe some new lore happened in BfA, I never did the Horde side of the story.

Revantusk are probably the most successful Amani clan, they can end up being the ones who save the entire tribe. And with the Zandalari being part of the Horde, calling on the Revantusk to get the Forest trolls makes sense.

[Cheezits]

I hope they add big burly forms for the lady Amani/Drakkari too.

[Ersula]

Now that I think about it, the might use the contention for Amani Trolls joining either faction to have them be playable for both.

I was thinking about how they might differentiate Amani Trolls as a playable race, because they drastically developed the Zandalari aesthetic for BFA, so how about this....

Would you prefer playable Lightforged Amani Trolls or Void Amani Trolls?

[Cheezits]

I was thinking about how they might differentiate Amani Trolls as a playable race, because they drastically developed the Zandalari aesthetic for BFA, so how about this....

Would you prefer playable Lightforged Amani Trolls or Void Amani Trolls?

Or they go all in on the alpine woods theme with their respective loa. The dragonhawk one would be a big deal.

[Ersula]

Or they go all in on the alpine woods theme with their respective loa. The dragonhawk one would be a big deal.

That seems too similar to Darkspear no matter how they do it. The Darkspear & Amani are barely different, culturally.

[Cheezits]

That seems too similar to Darkspear no matter how they do it. The Darkspear & Amani are barely different, culturally.

All the trolls are very similar, and were especially so before the Zandalari revamp in Mists. Just revise their aesthetics to be woodland themed and give them some personality quirks, they don't have to be radically different. Already they will be different by virtue of having different body types (especially if they make a new bulky model for women).

[Joshuaj]

High Elf customizations already exist. Why make them a playable race?

[Khaza-R]

High Elf customizations already exist. Why make them a playable race?

It should not ever be a thing. But until blood elf or void elf players are able to have a meaningless race tag that says "high elf" it will be an on-going topic.

Which on the notion of race tags I don't think it would be a bad addition for RP purposes

Trolls already have shadow and sand troll sub species in their customization.

Humans now have Arathi as an option

BE and NE have darkfallen customizations

Maybe its time to allow for more race tags for RP and congruency purposes.

[Enrif]

High Elf customizations already exist. Why make them a playable race?

because the high elf customization for void elves is lack luster. Hairstyles are almost all designed with the tentacles, and you turn into void all the times. These two things need to be addressed and void elves are fine as a high elf substitute.

[Limayria]

It should not ever be a thing. But until blood elf or void elf players are able to have a meaningless race tag that says "high elf" it will be an on-going topic.

Which on the notion of race tags I don't think it would be a bad addition for RP purposes

Trolls already have shadow and sand troll sub species in their customization.

Humans now have Arathi as an option

BE and NE have darkfallen customizations

Maybe its time to allow for more race tags for RP and congruency purposes.

It'd be nice if they made distinct races for high elves and Arathi and such as a way to give us different body types, buff high elf woman and slender high elf man and Arathi could get the slender human model from kul tiras finally

Though I'd also settle for giving races more body types in general, at the very least a body type 2 with flat chest please

[Joshuaj]

because the high elf customization for void elves is lack luster. Hairstyles are almost all designed with the tentacles, and you turn into void all the times. These two things need to be addressed and void elves are fine as a high elf substitute.

Blood Elves also have them. Only thing is that you'd have to play Horde.

[Alanar]

As of Undermine, maybe I missed it, but do we actually know what this fifth cartel is?

Is it Blackfuse? or will this be a newly formed one?

[Eldryth]

So summaries are out for the 11.1 main questline, and it's gotten clearer as to what the final tier will involve.

Xal'atath hired Gallywix to repair the Dark Heart as expected, and we try to steal it from him. But Ethereal thieves- apparently sent by Xal'atath because Gallywix tried to keep the Dark Heart (though I'm not sure whether that part is confirmed or just Alleria's theory)- steal it first. Alleria leaves to chase the Heart, while Xal'atath abandons Gallywix to the revolution that starts over all of this.

So it looks like the Ethereal raid is, in fact, coming in 11.2. Most likely with them working for Xal'atath in her big plan (in which case I'd still guess that it's an attack on the Worldcore), but maybe there's room for a twist where we're they're working for someone else and we need to get the Heart from them before Xal'atath does?