Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

I don't think the playable Ethereals will be Ethereum/void, if they exist, due to the skins we've seen. Not even Phase-Shifter Azir is voidy, only his minions, and Kyveza.

But maybe that ties into the Midnight class, if it exists, being void related? So if Ethereals are playable they can be a Void ??? and that's how.

I would assume the Protectorate will be the playable Ethereals and Locus-Walker and/or Ameer from TBC will be their leader.

The people became Ethereals to survive the void talking over their world. But only a minority of them became attuned to the void because that was the hardest to attune to, most attuned themselves to arcane.

[Joshuaj]

D.R.I.V.E. would be improved significantly with destructible objects, like fences and lamp posts.

This 10000 percent!!!

[Cheezits]

Did not expect this, but I almost would prefer Ethereals over Haranir.

IDK, the Haranir just haven't shaped out as I thought they would in TWW, neither story-wise or in terms of how they look. They're sorta chubby, giving me Kul Tiras vibes. Not a big fan of the quillboar and bat themes either. Too much Horde for me.

Etherals, though... a blue, mysterious spellcaster, from a lost world, kinda has a Mass Effect Tali vibe to it.

Why not both? Short of a complete expansion rewrite it looks like we're locked into Haranir.

Though I think they will also unlock Earthen Druids at the same time because of the Freysworn, so both ARs get druids with fun forms. We may not get new druids for a while after anyway, unless they do the ultimate troll pick (no pun intended) Belf druids.

[Lady Atia]

Lets goooooooooo Keystone Legend mount <3

[Joshuaj]

I mean even with the expan that was already in development with TWW metzen came in and repurposed what they already had done.

We have no way of knowing if the following expans which would likely just be plans on paper would have been thrown out or shifted away from there purpose like TWW.

He added in a bunch of older characters to the saga. Outside of that, and maybe a couple other things, he was basically chill with the narrative direction,

[username993720]

I typically don’t like Bellular’s videos - but he makes a lot of good points here.


Particularly with the stuff with the Ky’veza trinkets and the spawnable Ethereum void-reaper. (As he does point out a the Ethereum was using the void to get revenge on Dimensius)

I don't get the hype around playable Ethereals. Like, what customization options would they have, masks? They have no faces. Being a Void-affiliated race? We already have the Void elves. Now, if they'd somehow reverted back to their former looks and civilization, which is based on pre-islamic arabia, with some current ethereal cosmetics, like bandages and technology, then maybe they'd have some appeal. Currently, they're more sci-fi than fantasy.

[TheWizardFan88]

Did not expect this, but I almost would prefer Ethereals over Haranir.

IDK, the Haranir just haven't shaped out as I thought they would in TWW, neither story-wise or in terms of how they look. They're sorta chubby, giving me Kul Tiras vibes. Not a big fan of the quillboar and bat themes either. Too much Horde for me.

Etherals, though... a blue, mysterious spellcaster, from a lost world, kinda has a Mass Effect Tali vibe to it.

Why not both Ethereals and Haranir. They can be pretty cool if they are playable.

[Enrif]

I don't get the hype around playable Ethereals. Like, what customization options would they have, masks? They have no faces. Being a Void-affiliated race? We already have the Void elves. Now, if they'd somehow reverted back to their former looks and civilization, which is based on pre-islamic arabia, with some current ethereal cosmetics, like bandages and technology, then maybe they'd have some appeal. Currently, they're more sci-fi than fantasy.

We have already seen different types of customization for the new ethereal models
just for the face:




You can see here more customizations:
https://bsky.app/profile/keyboardtur.../3ldplwmig2c2v

[username993720]

We have already seen different types of customization for the new ethereal models
just for the face:




You can see here more customizations:
https://bsky.app/profile/keyboardtur.../3ldplwmig2c2v

But, it's literally just bandages. They have no facial expressions - saving the team a whole lot of work.

[Hitei]

But, it's literally just bandages. They have no facial expressions - saving the team a whole lot of work.

What's the issue as long as there's a vaguely similar number of iterations? A bunch of the races only have like ~10 categories for customization.

-Body Wrapping arrangement
-Wrapping style (brand new cloth, worn, dirty, etc.)
-Wrapping Color (potentially two options with an adjustable strength like Dracthyr's wing coloration effect)
-Head wrappings (as above, or even split into a facial arrangement and head style for pseudo hair)
-Individual limb wrapping (similar to how Earthen can choose different crystal arrangements per limb, potentially split into four different options)
-Energy style (smokey, tendrils, fiery, solid glow etc.)
-Energy Color (as above, potentially two options you can gradient between)
-Energy diffusion (leaking energy from various limbs, contained etc.)
-Energy Brightness (a few levels to adjust how dim or bright the effect is)
-Necklace (see: Elf races)
-Bangles/Anklets (like Dracthyr)
-Jewelry color

[Enrif]

But, it's literally just bandages. They have no facial expressions - saving the team a whole lot of work.

So? How often do you see the face of your character anyway? And having no face is the thing about ethereals. Putting a face on them would ruin who they are

[SkyTides]

I don't get the hype for ethereals either....they have some cool armour on the NPCs but that's the only interesting thing about them. If they were playable they'd be covered up with regular armour anyway unless they go the dracthyr route of barbershop clothes

[Hitei]

I don't get the hype for ethereals either....they have some cool armour on the NPCs but that's the only interesting thing about them. If they were playable they'd be covered up with regular armour anyway unless they go the dracthyr route of barbershop clothes

You can literally hide your entire armor set, my guy.

[Lady Atia]

So, some thoughts about last nights build:

- Raid renown is (sadly) Evergreen, I understand why they do it but on the other hand, I really hoped they would reward people playing the raid DURING a season.
- Seems like they intend to give us most recolours of the goblin mounts within the patch which is a lot better than the drip feeding we had during Dragonflight. I think only the red/blue HD rocket are missing so far? (and tbh, with these I would like it to make them available instead of giving people the TCG versions for free)
- Chinese mounts and the blue panda pet are now within the data, listed as "promotion". Hopefully they add them to the trading post or make it available elsewhere, chinese region only rewards are shit (although the netease contract may actually forbid them to add it to eu/us? not sure on that tbh).
- Finally a Keystone Legend Mount (so basically "Gladiator" equivalent, even though it's still quite easier to get 2850 compared to 2,4k in 3s) for M+ players. I'm now also wondering if we may get the light and void earthen suit for season 3, since they could use one for 2k and one for the 2850 achievement.

[username993720]

What's the issue as long as there's a vaguely similar number of iterations? A bunch of the races only have like ~10 categories for customization.

-Body Wrapping arrangement
-Wrapping style (brand new cloth, worn, dirty, etc.)
-Wrapping Color (potentially two options with an adjustable strength like Dracthyr's wing coloration effect)
-Head wrappings (as above, or even split into a facial arrangement and head style for pseudo hair)
-Individual limb wrapping (similar to how Earthen can choose different crystal arrangements per limb, potentially split into four different options)
-Energy style (smokey, tendrils, fiery, solid glow etc.)
-Energy Color (as above, potentially two options you can gradient between)
-Energy diffusion (leaking energy from various limbs, contained etc.)
-Energy Brightness (a few levels to adjust how dim or bright the effect is)
-Necklace (see: Elf races)
-Bangles/Anklets (like Dracthyr)
-Jewelry color

You, literally, named only 3 customization options: badages, energy and accessories.

So? How often do you see the face of your character anyway? And having no face is the thing about ethereals. Putting a face on them would ruin who they are

Imagine how lackluster they'd be in cinematics, where emotions are very important to convey an epic feeling.

[Enrif]

Imagine how lackluster they'd be in cinematics, where emotions are very important to convey an epic feeling.

The emotions of your characters never show in cinematics anyway. We only see important NPCs. And Locus Walker was awesome in the cinematic he was in, without the need of a face

[Hitei]

You, literally, named only 3 customization options: badages, energy and accessories.

So according to you, Tauren only have 3 customization options? Hair, Face and Accessories?

[huth]

So according to you, Tauren only have 3 customization options? Hair, Face and Accessories?

With that kind of argumentation, you could even justify saying ever race only has two customisation options. Body and accessories.

[Cheezits]

Caring about facial expressions is wild when I would bet most players wear a helmet at all times.

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Really excited to see that raid renown is planned to stick around. I think there's a lot of potential for "unlocking" things in future zones through the raid-imagine if you could turn multiple new zones into "cities" with amenities just by running the raid casually over the weeks. You could make your home base Undermine, or Rootlands, or Zul'aman etc. And free raid portals across Azeroth just by consistently raiding.

I hope they retroactively add a track to Nerub'ar as it would be nice to make the City of Threads a proper city and there are a lot of unused nerubian mounts in the files.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

He added in a bunch of older characters to the saga. Outside of that, and maybe a couple other things, he was basically chill with the narrative direction,

Metzen was the one who came up with the saga and says him self that things in TWW had to be repurposed for it, he wasn’t following the direction they already had planned.