Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joshuaj]

I will say something maybe controversial and ask that they may consider solo/private plots. I get that this may encourage community with forced hoods but yeah, I wouldn't mind a private area.

That's not controversial at all.

[Joshuaj]

I'm extremely disappointed, I didn't want a neighborhood system... I didn't like the part where they said they didn't want to put houses all over the place to avoid separating people too much. Let me have my house in my own quiet corner, I don't want neighbors.



I understood that these would be instantiated zones, cut off from the world. I hope I'm wrong, otherwise I'll lose interest in housing.

It'll likely be instanced in the sense that TWW Zones are "instanced", or how Midnight Silvermoon will be "instanced". Seamless tech.

[Cheezits]

They also need to deal with the fact that RP characters are going to get a lot of shit if they are forced to house with normal server players lol.

If their idea is to encourage community by not doing private solo apartments, I am fine with it and encourage it. Just have to make it so others can't troll.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Just because it's instanced doesn't mean you can smoothly transit to it. Garrisons were also instanced but part of the open world, remember?

Okay, but how do you add these modern zones to the ugly old world? Its... weird, no ?

[Joshuaj]

Yeah but there's an in-between. I play with a guild of like ~7 real life friends, most of whom aren't active beyond the first 2-3 months of an expansion. So it's either live in a basically dead neighborhood or public.

Tbf here, ain't that a similar case IRL regarding neighborhoods? With some being very active and others being, well, not as active?

[Cheezits]

Okay, but how do you add these modern zones to the ugly old world? Its... weird, no ?

Durotar/Azshara and Elwynn/Duskwood/Westfall will get revamped OR yeah it's just portals.

The very idea of a Quelthalas expansion runs into this problem so they may have an idea.

[Joshuaj]

Okay, but how do you add these modern zones to the ugly old world? Its... weird, no ?

The same way you'll fly from the ugly asf Eastern Plaguelands to the new, massive revamped Quel'thalas next expac. Seamless transitioning!

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Durotar/Azshara and Elwynn/Duskwood/Westfall will get revamped OR yeah it's just portals.

Seamless. Technology.

The answer is right there, my dudes!

[Hitei]

Yeah, like I said, hopefully they can make it to where you can buy a house without a Neighborhood.

Nah, you misunderstand. I like the idea of a neighborhood conceptually. My complaint is that because I am not in a large guild, it has to be a public neighborhood, and a public neighborhood is just a complete dice roll.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

It'll likely be instanced in the sense that TWW Zones are "instanced", or how Midnight Silvermoon will be "instanced". Seamless tech.

I hope you're right.

[Joshuaj]

Nah, you misunderstand. I like the idea of a neighborhood conceptually. My complaint is that because I am not in a large guild, it has to be a public neighborhood, and a public neighborhood is just a complete dice roll.

Fair enough. Hopefully Blizzard adds in some countermeasures to prevent trolling.

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Y'all see this art btw?

[Cheezits]

Seamless. Technology.

The answer is right there, my dudes!

Their point was that it will look jarring to go from ugly zone to new zone immediately, not that it can't be done.

[Joshuaj]

God, that looks fucking beautiful!

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Based on the descriptions of biomes and concept art, I feel like the Horde neighbourhood might be tucked in behind Orgrimmar, maybe? Like, if they add a small bit of land between Orgrimmar and Azshara, along the coast there. Looks like you can see Mount Hyjal in the background unless I'm mistaken.

The Alliance neighbourhood, meanwhile, seems like it's perhaps going to be squeezed into the hills south of Stormwind, as that borders both Westfall and Duskwood quite nicely. But who knows!

Looks like it, considering the art I just posted above (Which is official).

[Khaza-R]

Hopefully they combat aging neighborhoods by freeing up plots after like 24 months of inactivity or something.

I know it sucks for those people to lose their designs or whatever but otherwise this will just be a recipe for ghost towns. That said, the smaller groups of friends and guilds are going to love this, so I am happy for them.

[Joshuaj]

God, the idea of me being able to change the look of my house is so nice! If the houses look anything like the concept art, COUNT ME IN!

[Joshuaj]

The art is great, very insporational.

- Mount stables for your lil' gryphon.
- Greenhouse.
- Garden and raised garden beds.
- Fence.
- Two floors.
- Lovely ivy growing on the walls.
- Cosy fire under the hearth.
- Scenic surroundings.
- Bringing home the loot.

Checks out.

And based off what was leaked from the Cata PTR, we can likely change the inside and outside of our houses as well, which is nice!

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"Housing Decor:
Flags: Interior, Exterior
Model Type: None, M2, Wmo
Theme: None, Folk, Rugged, Generic, Opulent
Type: None, Floor, Wall, Ceiling, Tabletop
Housing Exterior:
Component Size: Any, Small, Medium, Large
Component Theme: Human
Permission: AddDecor, ChangeDecorParam, EnterDecorEditMode, MoveDecor, RemoveDecor, SaveHouse, SelectDecor, EditLayout
Result: Success, DbError, RpcFailure, GenericFailure, LockOperationFailed, UnlockOperationFailed, LockedByOtherPlayer, DecorNotFound, HouseNotFound, PermissionDenied, NotInDecoreditMode, NotInsideHouse, ServiceNotAvailable, RoomNotFound, RoomUpdateFailed, NotInLayoutEditMode, PlotNotFound, MaxDecorReached
Housing Room Component
DoorType: None, NarrowDoor, LargeDoor
OptionType: Cosmetic, DoorwayWall, Doorway
Type: None, Wall, Floor, Ceiling, Stairs, Pillar"

[Merryck]

It's gonna be rough wanting to live in like a nice immersive neighborhood and then having some meme neighbor who paints their house bright purple and slaps all the dumbest decorations on the outside.

That's what I want to see. Every neighborhood needs the local idiot.

[Joshuaj]

That's what I want to see. Every neighborhood needs the local idiot.

Lmaooo I like this take.

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Btw, 50 plots is insanely badass! Neighbors are about that big IRL anyway, yeah?

[Mekkle]

great start if they pull it off!

Hope they add allied race architecture gets added in the future, i'd die for some earthen buildings

[Reive]

looks nice, but i want to know more about HOW you can place things in your house

[Sondrelk]

Alliance neighbourhood?


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Either there or east of Stormwind in the empty area there.