Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

And yet, they made Earthen. Again, elves are insanely popular. Guess why they keep doing butterfly wings on the Trading Post? Because people who love sexy/cute/fun/whatever things are a large chunk of the playerbase (perhaps the largest nowadays), and they pay a lot of money for their "collecting game".

Void Elves are the Earthen. They are the race that was made to add (High) Elves to the Alliance.

At most, they'll turn High Elves into a neutral race and merge Blood and Void Elves and let you pick a racial. There is no way that they are going to add Void Elf 2.0/Blood Elf 3.0 to the Alliance that is the same race AGAIN AGAIN with slightly different racials.

[Enrif]

They'll merge Void Elves and Blood Elves into just being neutrally picked "High Elves". Both of them already have High Elf customization. Then people can just pick a subvariety between Blood, Void and High that gives racials and some specific locked customization (the tentacles, green/gold eyes, tattoos).

I don't know why people would assume they'll add another splinter group, doubling down on division when we know that Midnight is in large part about reunification.

That's not how anything in the game works concerning races.

I mean, if blizz would do a big race revamp for midnight. like, combining the different allied races into their main race, making them all neutral, big revamp on the racials, stuff like that. Yeah, then perhaps.

hmm... this could actually be a really big feature if they would do that

[Nymrohd]

That's not how anything in the game works concerning races.

I mean, if blizz would do a big race revamp for midnight. like, combining the different allied races into their main race, making them all neutral, big revamp on the racials, stuff like that. Yeah, then perhaps.

hmm... this could actually be a really big feature if they would do that

Honestly wanted this for a while. Dwarves and trolls would also love this.

[Makorus]

Honestly wanted this for a while. Dwarves and trolls would also love this.

Same with humans, orcs, and they can incorporate Undead into it as well somehow I'd imagine.

[Enrif]

Honestly wanted this for a while. Dwarves and trolls would also love this.

everyone would love this, except perhaps the grognards that don't like any change.

Roleplayers would have the greatest day. Housing and a great race revamp.

[Darkarath]

Do you think when Midnight comes and goes with no high elves we can finally put this to bed?

Of course not. The Arathi Empire is full of High / Half Elves. Maybe after fully exploring their continent/s.

[Gurahk]

Last I saw, you can choose blood elves with blue eyes, so why would people want high elves?

[Kiivar86]

Last I saw, Worgen, Kul Tirans and Forsaken are humans, so why would people want a playable (Stormwind) Human race?

Mate, that's not a good example and you know it.

Christ, this High Elf nonsense is so dumb.

[Therougetitan]

Last I saw, Worgen, Kul Tirans and Forsaken are humans, so why would people want a playable (Stormwind) Human race?

I didn't know I could change eye color on kul tiran and forsaken and it would look identical to a human. Thank you for your insightful post, keep it up.

[Sondrelk]

Last I saw, Worgen, Kul Tirans and Forsaken are humans, so why would people want a playable (Stormwind) Human race?

Because Worgen are werewolves. Forsaken are zombies. And Kul Tirans have a completely different body type.
The difference between Helves, Belves, and Velves at this point are whether they are on Horde, Alliance, and whether they sometimes have a blue tint in combat.

[Enrif]

Last I saw, you can choose blood elves with blue eyes, so why would people want high elves?

can i play a blue eyed high elf paladin on the alliance?

can i play a blond haired, fair skinned high elf that doesn't turn every few second into purple on the alliance?

No? guess what?

[Mecheon]

Last I saw, you can choose blood elves with blue eyes, so why would people want high elves?

Because Blizzard spent time on some of the best expansions of this game going "High Elves are a separate faction from Blood Elves, at war with them, and are part of the Alliance". Blood Elves having the customisation did nothing for the demand, because being told "Want to play this Alliance faction with two reps tied to it? Join the Horde" went down about as predictably as possible, especially circa BfA when the Alliance was getting horses shoved in their face while the Horde was getting unique mounts. Blizzard kept showing Alliance-allied High Elves as a separate thing from Blood Elves, so folks went with what the game showed

Mind, its all a moot point because they gave VElves the HElf skin tones so there's that stand-in for it, much like how BElves have the undead skin tones for the other 'yeah that should be playable' of undead BElves and draenei have eredar. The ship has long sailed on this one, as much as I detest void elves

Seriously, if they paywalled high elves as a race, they'd have the highest selling cash shop item from Moon Guard purchases alone

[Hitei]

That's not how anything in the game works concerning races.

What? That's exactly how the game works. There's no "big revamp" needed. It's all just UI in character creation.

The character creation has you pick High Elf (Horde) or High Elf (Alliance), then there is a pop up (exactly like where you choose between Exile's Reach and Starting are) where you pick [High Elf], [Void Elf], or [Blood Elf], and that takes you to customization, where they all have the same base set of options and some specific customization options (exactly like how blood elves and void elves are now).

[Cheezits]

If they do neutral Thalassians in a racial revamp I wonder if we also get neutral Goblins from Undermine?

...maybe THAT is the other rocket station? New starting zone?

I can also see neutral Amani but it's a bit stretch.

[Limayria]

What? That's exactly how the game works. There's no "big revamp" needed. It's all just UI in character creation.

The character creation has you pick High Elf (Horde) or High Elf (Alliance), then there is a pop up (exactly like where you choose between Exile's Reach and Starting are) where you pick [High Elf], [Void Elf], or [Blood Elf], and that takes you to customization, where they all have the same base set of options and some specific customization options (exactly like how blood elves and void elves are now).

this is exactly the way id imagine this manifesting as well

[Ersula]

Besides being on the Alliance, Void Elves are "we have High Elves at home".

In other words, Blood elves give you everything you want out of High elves, because they are High Elves. Completely and utterly. The only problem is that people want them to be alliance. But that's like asking the devs to make Alliance orcs. It's not going to happen. It's worse than a niche request, its a semantic indulgence.

I can also see neutral Amani but it's a bit stretch.

I'd like them to do that for, say, Hobgoblins. Or multiple body types for humans. But its a ridiculous ask for High Elves, considering the only thing that separates Blood/Void elves at the moment is a few hairstyles.

[Mecheon]

In other words, Blood elves give you everything you want out of High elves, because they are High Elves. Completely and utterly. The only problem is that people want them to be alliance. But that's like asking the devs to make Alliance orcs. It's not going to happen. It's worse than a niche request, its a semantic indulgence.

Its hardly a niche request given Wrath and Mists had sizeable High Elf forces on the Alliance. Given how Alliance ARs went, of course people want the actual force that has worked with and helped the Alliance as compared to what we got

Blizzard spent some of the best expansions of this game going "High Elves are a different thing to Blood Elves". Its moot regardless because Void Elves are filling the slot, but acting like this isn't Blizzard's fault for setting up a race as a perfect AR and then giving the Alliance diaper gnomes instead wasn't going to lead to anger

[Ersula]

Its hardly a niche request given Wrath and Mists had sizeable High Elf forces on the Alliance. Given how Alliance ARs went, of course people want the actual force that has worked with and helped the Alliance as compared to what we got

Blizzard spent some of the best expansions of this game going "High Elves are a different thing to Blood Elves". Its moot regardless because Void Elves are filling the slot, but acting like this isn't Blizzard's fault for setting up a race as a perfect AR and then giving the Alliance diaper gnomes instead wasn't going to lead to anger

That's true, but they also spent a lot of time giving Void Elves High Elf identifiers. Void Elves & Alliance High Elves are much closer to each other than Blood Elves & Darkfallen but here we are. You not liking that these alliance high elves turn blue in combat occasionally isn't a good enough reason.

[huth]

Its hardly a niche request given Wrath and Mists had sizeable High Elf forces on the Alliance. Given how Alliance ARs went, of course people want the actual force that has worked with and helped the Alliance as compared to what we got

Blizzard spent some of the best expansions of this game going "High Elves are a different thing to Blood Elves". Its moot regardless because Void Elves are filling the slot, but acting like this isn't Blizzard's fault for setting up a race as a perfect AR and then giving the Alliance diaper gnomes instead wasn't going to lead to anger

Sizeable? Tiny. And that was almost all of them that are left, too. Some of which have now become Void Elves to boot.

[Mecheon]

Sizeable? Tiny. And that was almost all of them that are left, too. Some of which have now become Void Elves to boot.

More of them than we had Void Elves, Lightforged or Mechagnomes on the Alliance. Heck, if numbers were a requirement, Void Elves wouldn't even exist in the game

Blizzard set up "High Elves are an Alliance force" for years, are you genuinely surprised people brought into that idea and were shocked to not get that? Just saying, the only AR that Alliance got and was asked for were Dark Irons and Earthen. Everything else should have been customisation (Lightforged) or was made up as a poor excuse for something they actually wanted (Void Elves as compared to High Elves, Kul Tirans as compared to Vrykul, diapergnomes as compared to actual Mechagnomes). When Earthen of all things stand out for being "Oh we actually requested this race and it is being given to us in its original form", you know something's amiss

Once again a moot point as Void Elves are around but like, that's the heart and soul of the argument. The Alliance requests for new races got ignored or given 'yeah that's close enough' counterparts that weren't enough, meanwhile the Horde got amazing new races and like. Vulpera. Because even if you don't like vulpera, comparing them to mechagnomes, its clear who lost.

That's true, but they also spent a lot of time giving Void Elves High Elf identifiers. Void Elves & Alliance High Elves are much closer to each other than Blood Elves & Darkfallen but here we are. You not liking that these alliance high elves turn blue in combat occasionally isn't a good enough reason.

Oh, yeah, its way too late at this point, but I was seriously arguing that void elves should be removed from the game during late Legion and most of BfA so I sympathise with the High Elf requests

Its not going to happen and is way too late, but, frankly, it should have happened instead of what we got. But, instead the game played out the way it did.