Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

Undermine worst quality wise raid evah? WoW needs passion like Heroes of the Storm?

Oh yeah, patch week, time for some quality posts.

No no, this is a very well thoght out post. In hindsight the stuff like an Ogre usinga finger gun and making Scarface references while jazzy music plays is actually factually terrible. No player ever have wanted to be in the middle of a fight being a cyborg gorilla and mecha dinosaur >

Hopefully the next raid will finally be good again. With such standout bosses like a regular model ethereal who does some basic mechanics while background muzak plays.

[Nymrohd]

Oh so the Dinars will not work like in DF, you get a Hero Track item (but Hero Track is extended to 8/8)
Looking forward to everyone losing their minds that the dinars will not give them Myth Track BiS.
if this is a six week event for 11.1.7 that's probably the additional content for it, working together with Turbulent Timeways. Warbound Valorstones is excellent and I wish it stays beyond the event (and with a bigger cap).

Also first time I am truly tempted to buy a shop collection that is not on a heavy discount.

[Sondrelk]

Oh so the Dinars will not work like in DF, you get a Hero Track item (but Hero Track is extended to 8/8)
Looking forward to everyone losing their minds that the dinars will not give them Myth Track BiS.
if this is a six week event for 11.1.7 that's probably the additional content for it, working together with Turbulent Timeways. Warbound Valorstones is excellent and I wish it stays beyond the event (and with a bigger cap).

Also first time I am truly tempted to buy a shop collection that is not on a heavy discount.

Definitely not a great look when it came out this late. But if we assume it will show up earlier next raid, then it makes sense that it works like this. Wouldnt want guides like what we had this season where players were told to hld out on crafting specific items just because they would buy BiS items at some indeterminate point in the future.

[Nymrohd]

Definitely not a great look when it came out this late. But if we assume it will show up earlier next raid, then it makes sense that it works like this. Wouldnt want guides like what we had this season where players were told to hld out on crafting specific items just because they would buy BiS items at some indeterminate point in the future.

I would rather not have Dinars and also have properly balanced trinkets so the same one is not BiS for the entire raid and having very rare items only be BiS for very specific builds instead of more than half the melee or EVERY SINGLE PLAYER. The only reason Dinars were sorely needed this season was that Undermine's loot table definitely reminded you that this raid is literally a casino. Personally I don't ever feel the need to have BiS. But I do mind it if BiS is leagues ahead of second best. This season you are looking at your vault every week hoping for that tiny chance for a Myth track trinket from M+ while also waiting to see when that very rare item does drop from the raid for which you are maybe in the middle if not the bottom of the list . . .

[Reive]

the dinar change is garbage. blizzard is really pulling random shit with this patch. maybe they're struggling with producing content since they're also working on midnight but idk if what they're doing is working

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Still surprised they didn't at least add a Robe for this set, feel so weird that they would double down with the decision of not having a Robe for this set.

[Nymrohd]

Still surprised they didn't at least add a Robe for this set, feel so weird that they would double down with the decision of not having a Robe for this set.

Should be a full transmog set.

[Dracullus]

Oh so the Dinars will not work like in DF, you get a Hero Track item (but Hero Track is extended to 8/8)
if this is a six week event for 11.1.7 that's probably the additional content for it, working together with Turbulent Timeways. Warbound Valorstones is excellent and I wish it stays beyond the event (and with a bigger cap).

Also first time I am truly tempted to buy a shop collection that is not on a heavy discount.

Bothewring with dinars gave them more problems than ignoring them. Before no one expected this system outside bonus season, now people are pissed they can't buy mythic item without killing mythic boss.

Whole thing looks like expanded QoL changes we get every midseason, probably stuff like removing conquest cap will come same time. Valorstones changes is nice, should be thing from day 1 next season.

As for 11.1.7, I really don't expect anthing spectacular. Next catch up event - sure why not, but let's not pretend that casual alt gear isn't raining from the sky already this expac. If anyone is hungry for more WoW for some reason (personally I always said 5.5-6 month per season is perfect length), there is MoP Classic.

[Nymrohd]

Bothewring with dinars gave them more problems than ignoring them. Before no one expected this system outside bonus season, now people are pissed they can't buy mythic item without killing mythic boss.

Whole thing looks like expanded QoL changes we get every midseason, probably stuff like removing conquest cap will come same time. Valorstones changes is nice, should be thing from day 1 next season.

As for 11.1.7, I really don't expect anthing spectacular. Next catch up event - sure why not, but let's not pretend that casual alt gear isn't raining from the sky already this expac. If anyone is hungry for more WoW for some reason (personally I always said 5.5-6 month per season is perfect length), there is MoP Classic.

Oh this is an excellent expansion for alts for sure (and so many +xp events). Just saying, they always seem to add some form of catchup with these so I kind of expect one.
Personally, something that takes you back to Khaz Algar from Undermine by buffing Khaz Algar rares like the Dream events from 10.1.7 is what I'd expect. Probably linked to the Void.

[Reive]

Bothewring with dinars gave them more problems than ignoring them. Before no one expected this system outside bonus season, now people are pissed they can't buy mythic item without killing mythic boss.

Whole thing looks like expanded QoL changes we get every midseason, probably stuff like removing conquest cap will come same time. Valorstones changes is nice, should be thing from day 1 next season.

As for 11.1.7, I really don't expect anthing spectacular. Next catch up event - sure why not, but let's not pretend that casual alt gear isn't raining from the sky already this expac. If anyone is hungry for more WoW for some reason (personally I always said 5.5-6 month per season is perfect length), there is MoP Classic.

they should have at least reduced the requirements to get them. this feels bad when compared to how they were in s4 of dragonflight/shadowlands

on 11.1.7, i expect it to have no content at all. maybe a little questline. that's why dastardly duo is coming almost 2 months after the release of the patch

[Nymrohd]

they should have at least reduced the requirements to get them. this feels bad when compared to how they were in s4 of dragonflight/shadowlands

on 11.1.7. i expect it to have no content at all. maybe a little questline. that's why dastardly duo is coming almost 2 months after the release of the patch

The roadmap says Story and Quests AND New Content. I expect what's on the roadmap.

As for the Dinars, they should have just not done them. It was a crazy thing to add if they were not willing to commit. If it had to be added then they should have had a much clearer plan and communicated it from the start.

Alternatively, never add an item like Best-in-Slot again. And make sure that the best trinket list for all specs is not the same 4-5 trinkets.

[Enrif]

Still surprised they didn't at least add a Robe for this set, feel so weird that they would double down with the decision of not having a Robe for this set.

hmm, if i assume that the medievh set is a hint at whats to come, a robe might be to spoilery for it. Remember the BfA map that was on some cloth armor in legion?
Like, if the robe looks like something that relates to titans or sargeras

[Black Rider]

Medivh ???
https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/arti...nd-wisdom-pack

[Reive]

The roadmap says Story and Quests AND New Content. I expect what's on the roadmap.

As for the Dinars, they should have just not done them. It was a crazy thing to add if they were not willing to commit. If it had to be added then they should have had a much clearer plan and communicated it from the start.

Alternatively, never add an item like Best-in-Slot again. And make sure that the best trinket list for all specs is not the same 4-5 trinkets.

when they say "New content" they mean no relevant content, just something little. if a patch has a new feature they usually announce it

back to dinars, they swung the too much in the opposite direction. i get that dinars mid main season can't be the same as dinars in a "fun" season but this feels too much. 5 weeks to get both of them is too much. what's the point of adding them?

[milkmustache]

I've always been under the impression that going into a void-themed Legion expansion we'd finally encounter Medivh again, and I think they've been breadcrumbing that a lot lately with Trading Post and now Store items.

If 11.2 does end up being K'aresh, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where we meet him, and he becomes a major character going into 12.0. Otherwise, I'm sure we'll encounter him later on in Midnight, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're looking to play with the dynamics between him and Sargeras in The Last Titan. I think it's an awesome opportunity to really close out these chapters of WoW, if that's what their goal is.

[Enrif]

I've always been under the impression that going into a void-themed Legion expansion we'd finally encounter Medivh again, and I think they've been breadcrumbing that a lot lately with Trading Post and now Store items.

If 11.2 does end up being K'aresh, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where we meet him, and he becomes a major character going into 12.0. Otherwise, I'm sure we'll encounter him later on in Midnight, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're looking to play with the dynamics between him and Sargeras in The Last Titan. I think it's an awesome opportunity to really close out these chapters of WoW, if that's what their goal is.

i don't get why Medivh would be tied to a void expansion? His whole story is related to the Legion and especially Sargeras. I can see him for TLT when Sargeras returns. But for Midnight?

[Nymrohd]

I think Mediv probably is going to be our exposition character for Cosmic level information. He is traveling the universe and finding out things no one on Azeroth (except Azshara and maybe some people among the Arathi) know.

[milkmustache]

i don't get why Medivh would be tied to a void expansion? His whole story is related to the Legion and especially Sargeras. I can see him for TLT when Sargeras returns. But for Midnight?

I'm going based off of his "I'm needed elsewhere" flying out to the Nether from Legion. The Void and the Legion are somewhat linked together as well, as the Legion's purpose was to stop the Void from creating a Dark Titan.

I think you're right that he's far more tied to Sargeras than he is to the Void/Midnight, but I think if/when we go to K'aresh, he will be a sort of cosmic tether for us.

[Enrif]

it was strange that Medievh would leave us in Legion, right when Sargeras was on the way to us. But what if, Medievh was the reason that Sargeras was only a cloud around Azeroth for such a long time, before he could stab the planet?

We don't know how far away "elsewhere" really is meant to be. It could be the outer edges of Azeroths solar system. It could be the moon (which would fit color wise the blue/white set). It could be as far away as K'aresh, or another dimension like the Shadowlands.

[Reive]

don't think we're going to get a ptr today. they just launched the mop classic beta