
Looks like the unrest in Stromgarde is the Red Dawn - The remnants of the Scarlet Crusade, the Syndicate and the Defias, led by Marran Trollbane, Dannath's neice - with the goal of making a human supremacist empire
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I've just done the Ethereal Lorewalking.
It is just old quests. Starts with the Ethereum Questline where you kill the King, goes to the short Dimensius questline, then hops to Legion, where we have Alleria and Locuswalker kill that Void being and take its core, and then we do the Tazavesh intro, and at the end, we have the Venari bit from the Korthia intro.
Lorewalker Cho keeps pointing out how similar the Brokers and the Ethereals are.
At the end of the quest, a Broker shows up and tells us Venari needs help.
Venari wants to deliver a device to Locus Walker:
When we show up there, there are Ethereal Assassins.
Turns out, Brokers ARE Ethereals. And Venari will return in Avengers: Infinity War.
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Interesting that the Scarlets kind of folded into another group and aren't the leadership.
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Wow! Massive!! How the hell do they tie this one together? Bold and exciting move from Blizzard. I'm willing to place all my bets on K'aresh for 11.2 now.


Once you finish the quest, you get a little recap book item:
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Someone do the Xal'atath one please!

Yeah that's totally going towards the Shadowguard took over after we killed Salhadaar and we are going to help the other Ethereals take fight them.
https://www.wowhead.com/es/news/11-1...poilers-376680
Xal'athat is a Void Agent and N'zoth is very much alive.
Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.

Also, I genuinely believed the Ethereals and Brokers were different, with the Ethereals taking their practices from the Brokers and whatnot. I did NOT expect them to have come from the same world, though this would explain why they share similar accents and whatnot.
To whoever said they were one in the same initially, good job.

On the one hand, kinda eh that the quests are all old ones, but on the other, the end of it and that reveal is pretty sweet.
Xal'atath's one should be more interesting what with the going back in time part.

Loved Xal'atath questline because you play as a servant of the Black Empire. The questline shows how the Old Gods imprisoned Xal'atath, but we still don't know her motives. She attacks the Old Gods earlier and she looks like a void entity so we still don't know what she is.
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Nothing here implies N'Zoth is alive, but it IS nice to know Xal'atath was nothing special lol. People genuinely believed she was something else entire, and that was silly. Imo, I thought she was an entity akin to the Old Gods, or was maybe a canonical version of the Ancient One from Hearthstone, but I'm fine with the actual answer.
Also, this would explain why N'Zoth stayed in the background for the longest time.The Old Gods acting like a council is also cool.
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She is the Harbinger of the Void, yeah? It's entirely possible she was an agent of Dimensius or whatever.
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We know the Old Gods are spawns of the Void Lords, but are they related to Dimensius at all? Cause it's entirely possible Dimensius was against the whole Old God stuff. Granted, it's also just possible the Old Gods did their own thing against the Void Lords, and Dimensius sent Xal'atath to kick their shit in, as Old Gods act independently from their creators.
Arthas' questline could be the game changer here.
Both Xal'athat and Ethereals questlines, while interesting, they just confirm what has been theorized for a while, without giving the juicy details.
We still know very little about the Ethereals and the Brokers, and practically nothing about Xal'athat.
Also it is very obvious that N'zoth would come back at some point, he could even be in league with Xal'athat, that would explain the Infinites connection somehow.
Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive.