Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lady Atia]

I just saw someone mention it in a tweet. They said it had been datamined a while ago (the name).

I dug a little and apparently Wowhead posted this list of future Trading Post themes all the way back in May of 2024. One year ago.

NEW January: Forward Progression
NEW February: Moonlit Magnificence
NEW March: Sparkles and Flair
NEW April: Faire Game
NEW May: Critter Country
NEW June: Burning Hearts
NEW July: Forsaken Memories
NEW August: Either Or
NEW September: Dwarven Charm
NEW October: Fel Festivities
NEW November: Bountiful Gifts
NEW December: Frozen Hearts

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A month before that post, they had also posted this list for the rest of 2024. I can't recall what all the themes ended up being named.

NEW June: Summer Fun
NEW July: The Dark Depths
NEW August: The Spirit of Competition
NEW September: Gather Your Friends
NEW October: Light vs Dark
NEW November: Iconic
NEW December: Ice Try

Pretty sure the 2025 list is correct so far though. We had the Critter Country theme this month and last month was themed around the Darkmoon Faire.

Guessing the June "Burning Hearts" theme gives us those datamined fiery models? I think there was a fiery flying mount, some type of lava helmet and weapons, etc.

Forsaken Memories we know already.

Either Or sounds like it could be for the Chess items?

Dwarven Charm is interesting. Have we seen anything like that datamined?

Fel Festivities in October probably coincides with Legio Remix.

Burning Hearts will prolly have the Molten Chimera mount, Forsaken Memories some of the new datamined stuff from yesterday (it looks like the green and purple colours, including the banshee set, the mounts and the weapons). Either Or will prolly use the chess themed mounts and transmog and Bountiful Gifts will prolly give us another hedgehog recolour or two and Frozen Hearts will prolly have the Coldflame Cormaera. There is also a fel Cormaera that could fit into Fel Festivities but that was initially marked as promotional mount iirc.

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Do you guys remember when we got an extra amount of tendies last time for the summer? I think they did something there.

[Sondrelk]

Burning Hearts will prolly have the Molten Chimera mount, Forsaken Memories some of the new datamined stuff from yesterday (it looks like the green and purple colours, including the banshee set, the mounts and the weapons). Either Or will prolly use the chess themed mounts and transmog and Bountiful Gifts will prolly give us another hedgehog recolour or two and Frozen Hearts will prolly have the Coldflame Cormaera. There is also a fel Cormaera that could fit into Fel Festivities but that was initially marked as promotional mount iirc.

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Do you guys remember when we got an extra amount of tendies last time for the summer? I think they did something there.

Can't quite remember why, but I do remember they added more, yes. I faintly remember they have added extra trendies a couple of time. And once was definitely for the anniversary of the trading post itself. Think another may have been for the 20th anniversary event. And I am pretty confident one must have been for a month where something special and expensive was in the trading post.

[Lady Atia]

Where have we seen banshee sets and weapons? I saw someone link a few Forsaken-themed weapons in this page but nothing Banshee

Undead were one of my favourite races before Belf was introduced in tbc so am happy they are getting more stuff!

Edit: Nvm, found them. It also looks like we might be getting Sylvanas' Bow

Wait what? I know there is a new forsaken themed bow with the rose, but I haven't seen her classic bow yet?

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Oh, I found it.

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...of-the-banshee

Looks like it will come via timewalking, yes. Not a fan of putting EVERYTHING on the trading post without the option to get additional tendies.

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Also, they finally give us Nerzhuls staff WOHOO

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...the-shadowmoon

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And Deathwings mace ...

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...t-worldbreaker

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And last but not least, Zul's dagger haha

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...of-the-prophet

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And here is the Banshee set on a bloodelf:

[Alanar]

Wait what? I know there is a new forsaken themed bow with the rose, but I haven't seen her classic bow yet?

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Oh, I found it.

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...of-the-banshee

Looks like it will come via timewalking, yes. Not a fan of putting EVERYTHING on the trading post without the option to get additional tendies.

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Also, they finally give us Nerzhuls staff WOHOO

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...the-shadowmoon

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And Deathwings mace ...

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...t-worldbreaker

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And last but not least, Zul's dagger haha

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...of-the-prophet

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And here is the Banshee set on a bloodelf:

I wanted that sylvanas bow since it was displayed in one of those tents, including the dark ranger npc bow. This is great at least one shows up somewhere.

Not sure about the "banshee " stuff perse. Idk if I like it. Feels like just a random new tier set for priests or something.

[Super Dickmann]

Not sure about the "banshee " stuff perse. Idk if I like it. Feels like just a random new tier set for priests or something.

I dislike that there's no version that's entirely in Sylvanas's colours, the green and purple one is too much so. Past that the only complaint I have with the design is the shoes. Needs something heftier to be mixed and matched with other Forsaken/Dark Ranger items.

[Lady Atia]

I dislike that there's no version that's entirely in Sylvanas's colours, the green and purple one is too much so. Past that the only complaint I have with the design is the shoes. Needs something heftier to be mixed and matched with other Forsaken/Dark Ranger items.

Honestly, I find it kinda refreshing to still get Sylvanas inspired stuff but with different palletes this time, we already have like 3 different versions of her classic colours already anyways.

[Nymrohd]

I hate the overdesigned helms in these but then I'd never use them.

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I dislike that there's no version that's entirely in Sylvanas's colours, the green and purple one is too much so. Past that the only complaint I have with the design is the shoes. Needs something heftier to be mixed and matched with other Forsaken/Dark Ranger items.

You don't want to wear metal slippers? But why?

[Super Dickmann]

You don't want to wear metal slippers? But why?

They disrespect the grace of my Forsaken's skeleton toes.

[Ersula]

I dislike that there's no version that's entirely in Sylvanas's colours, the green and purple one is too much so. Past that the only complaint I have with the design is the shoes. Needs something heftier to be mixed and matched with other Forsaken/Dark Ranger items.

They did just do Sylvanas' actual cosplay outfit. The Blue version of this set does match Sylvanas' new blue redemption arc makeover.

Kinda hoping it isn't just a Trading post set but actually indicative of a cult of sylvanas within the Forsaken. She died for Blizzard's sins, minus the dying part.

40 is actually quite high.

By all 3 I mean't all three existing Lorewalking campaigns, not just the three questchains within each lorewalking campaign.

[Houle]

Also, they finally give us Nerzhuls staff WOHOO

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr/item=244...the-shadowmoon

Only took them over 10 years lmao. They even added it in D3 back then, but not WoW itself.

[huth]

This conspiracy is presumably about the nature of the Worldsoul and the whole 'prison'-system they've built around it to create another Titan out of her. Probably against her will. Which will destroy the surface and all that, and tilt the cosmic conflict in the Titans' favor. Ordering is against the free will, basically.

Sargeras might've even tried to save her when he plunged his sword into the surface, trying to destroy the Manifold which has imprisoned the Worldsoul. Azeroth showed herself in his visions, according to one Legion artifact. Not that he is in any way or form a good guy, of course. But this might be an interesting take on the nature of Azeroth and the Legion.

And with the new lore about Xal'atath, it may seem like even the Old Gods didn't want to kill the Worldsoul. That they 'rebelled' against the Void Lords (thus imprisoning their Herald, Xal'atath), basically going against their parasitic nature. Which may also be one of the reasons why the Titans fought so hard against them and have edicts talking about erasing all bits about the history and culture of the Black Empire. Thus erasing their slightly more nuanced side. I mean, this would finally make some sense:
First: All historical records documenting the advancements of the Black Empire are to be purged.
Paint that age as one of chaos and misery, a pernicious blight that we keepers eradicated. With the Old Gods locked in confinement, there should be no evidence available to contradict our assertions.
Surely if you care for these mortals, you would not wish to see them led astray into darkness.

People should also remember the talk about the Radiant Song, and how Zereth Mortis also talked about the music of creation. Radiant Songs (Worldsouls) might be vestigal energies from the First Ones which need tuning (literally and metaphorically) to become one of the 6 Cosmic Powers.

Do consider that as far as we know, all Old Gods were basically guaranteed to die if they fulfill their purpose. Most killed by the others, the last one when it corrupts the world soul.

It's quite believable incarnations of a force that focuses on individualism would decide "screw that" and drag their tentacles for as long as they can muster.

[Lady Atia]

Only took them over 10 years lmao. They even added it in D3 back then, but not WoW itself.

Yeah, I think the only NPC weapons we are missing now are Jaina's stuff, Kingsmourne, Shalamayne and an HD Atiesh (and I still think we will get that as a legendary this expansion, hopefully). Oh and Frostmourne lol.

They also did a new bow for Redemption Sylvanas but iirc they never actually used that in game for whatever reason.

[Scyth]

Wait what? I know there is a new forsaken themed bow with the rose, but I haven't seen her classic bow yet?

Yeah I haven't seen an article about it anywhere so didn't know it was datamined. Will go very well with the Sylvanas transmog we got a few months ago!

Big fan of the Banshee set as well although it looks more like a DK tier set to me lol

[Holdodlig]

I just saw someone mention it in a tweet. They said it had been datamined a while ago (the name).

I dug a little and apparently Wowhead posted this list of future Trading Post themes all the way back in May of 2024. One year ago.

NEW January: Forward Progression
NEW February: Moonlit Magnificence
NEW March: Sparkles and Flair
NEW April: Faire Game
NEW May: Critter Country
NEW June: Burning Hearts
NEW July: Forsaken Memories
NEW August: Either Or
NEW September: Dwarven Charm
NEW October: Fel Festivities
NEW November: Bountiful Gifts
NEW December: Frozen Hearts

Edit:

A month before that post, they had also posted this list for the rest of 2024. I can't recall what all the themes ended up being named.

NEW June: Summer Fun
NEW July: The Dark Depths
NEW August: The Spirit of Competition
NEW September: Gather Your Friends
NEW October: Light vs Dark
NEW November: Iconic
NEW December: Ice Try

Pretty sure the 2025 list is correct so far though. We had the Critter Country theme this month and last month was themed around the Darkmoon Faire.

Guessing the June "Burning Hearts" theme gives us those datamined fiery models? I think there was a fiery flying mount, some type of lava helmet and weapons, etc.

Forsaken Memories we know already.

Either Or sounds like it could be for the Chess items?

Dwarven Charm is interesting. Have we seen anything like that datamined?

Fel Festivities in October probably coincides with Legio Remix.

Damn, they did Dwarven Charm without even giving us the Ironforge set ... What a shame.

[Therougetitan]

Damn, they did Dwarven Charm without even giving us the Ironforge set ... What a shame.

Dwarven charm is next September. Gather your friends was September 2024.

[Nightshade711]

Yeah, I think the only NPC weapons we are missing now are Jaina's stuff, Kingsmourne, Shalamayne and an HD Atiesh (and I still think we will get that as a legendary this expansion, hopefully). Oh and Frostmourne lol.

They also did a new bow for Redemption Sylvanas but iirc they never actually used that in game for whatever reason.

There’s also the Nozdormu scythe that I’ve been wanting since it was datamined.


But I’m willing to bet that it’ll be one of the Evoker artifacts for Legion Remix.

[Thomir]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-pla...-swords-331827

I've literally been waiting years for this Lightforged Draenei sword to appear in the trading post but alas.

[Cheezits]

The banshee armor is great but the "titty face" popping out like a chestburster is ridiculous imo.

[Nize]

But I’m willing to bet that it’ll be one of the Evoker artifacts for Legion Remix.

Outside of leftover assets from MoP, did MoP Remix have assets placed in the PTR 3 or so patches before MoP Remix went live? There's a ton of people here saying that a lot of the items being implemented are for Legion Remix.

[Wyrt]

The MoP remix class sets were datamined a long time before Remix happened.