Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

Locus Walker talks about how he heard a radiant song from K'aresh before it was consumed.

I think it was the first time it was mentioned since Legion, too, which caught a lot of people off guard.

[milkmustache]

Isn't K'aresh namedropped very quickly with the Harbinger prologue quests?

I wouldn't even say quickly-- Locus Walker's revelation that K'aresh also heard a radiant song before consumation is the major kickoff for the Worldsoul Saga. It'd make a lot of sense to end TWW diving deeper into that.

[shooketh]

Anyway, maybe keeping 11.2 a mystery is purposefully done, as even our characters are left out of the loop. This makes the introductionary quests/narrative of 11.2 very important, though. As those have to introduce this chapter of the story just right.

11.2 has to be really hype and has to have a lot of meat to it in terms of story. It should also clearly set up Midnight, because the subsequent .5 and .7 patches will release after Midnight would have already been revealed.

11.1 was Undermine, 11.1.5 had no story, and 11.1.7 looks to be completely unrelated to the whole void/ethereal plot.

Unless 11.2 is something crazy like visiting the Arathi Empire as a continuation from 11.1.7 or something, then I have no idea what 11.2 actually is. 11.1.7 being Arathi Highlands kind of puts a big question mark on where it's going.

But whatever it is, it has to be a banger patch with a hype cinematic to get people hooked and hyped for Midnight.

[Sondrelk]

I am still wondering whether we will get an "expansion reveal" like what we would expect at Blizzcon. The usual timing for it in Autumn makes sense if we assume the Alpha will begin immediately afterwards. But I do wonder whether we will get something several months before the expansion begins official testing.

[Limayria]

11.2 has to be really hype and has to have a lot of meat to it in terms of story. It should also clearly set up Midnight, because the subsequent .5 and .7 patches will release after Midnight would have already been revealed.

11.1 was Undermine, 11.1.5 had no story, and 11.1.7 looks to be completely unrelated to the whole void/ethereal plot.

Unless 11.2 is something crazy like visiting the Arathi Empire as a continuation from 11.1.7 or something, then I have no idea what 11.2 actually is. 11.1.7 being Arathi Highlands kind of puts a big question mark on where it's going.

But whatever it is, it has to be a banger patch with a hype cinematic to get people hooked and hyped for Midnight.

I think 11.2 in k'aresh showing us th dangers of allowing our infighting to give the void a foot hold could easily draw the themes of the Arathi 11.1.7 and short story together with 11.2 and 12.0

Serving as a rebuke of faction tensions (thank God) and encouraging the thalassian's to stand in solidarity together while also helping integrate the etherals more the Ren'dorei to help tie them into azeorth more closely

[milkmustache]

I am still wondering whether we will get an "expansion reveal" like what we would expect at Blizzcon. The usual timing for it in Autumn makes sense if we assume the Alpha will begin immediately afterwards. But I do wonder whether we will get something several months before the expansion begins official testing.

Consensus seems to be Gamescon reveal a la Legion.

[Lady Atia]

I am still wondering whether we will get an "expansion reveal" like what we would expect at Blizzcon. The usual timing for it in Autumn makes sense if we assume the Alpha will begin immediately afterwards. But I do wonder whether we will get something several months before the expansion begins official testing.

I mean, isn't the expansion reveal literally on the roadmap?^^

[Dvalin]

Seems like Preach was also in America for the event. Something big is going down soon, very exciting.

Would something about the housing feature be that important? 'Cause I hope we get something about 11.2 soon.

How long before we can expect the reveal of whatever it was they were there for?

[milkmustache]

Would something about the housing feature be that important? 'Cause I hope we get something about 11.2 soon.

How long before we can expect the reveal of whatever it was they were there for?

SoonTM. 2ish weeks, I imagine. While I think it's 11.2, a housing feature could have creators showing off the neighborhood feature together.

[Dracullus]

I am still wondering whether we will get an "expansion reveal" like what we would expect at Blizzcon. The usual timing for it in Autumn makes sense if we assume the Alpha will begin immediately afterwards. But I do wonder whether we will get something several months before the expansion begins official testing.

I don't think it will be controversial to say Midnight on Gamescom, Last Titan on Blizzcon (Northrend was even teased on trailer). I'm aware TLT is few months early, but just cant imagine Blizzcon return with just 12.2.X patches panel.

[shooketh]

Is there anything in 11.1.7 that even references the void or ethereals? Otherwise it would feel like a pretty sudden shift if 11.2 is Karesh

[Eldryth]

Is there anything in 11.1.7 that even references the void or ethereals? Otherwise it would feel like a pretty sudden shift if 11.2 is Karesh

Yes, those are the only things that were teased in 11.1.7 (well, unless you expect the Red Dawn to be followed up on immediately, but that'd be the biggest sudden change imaginable, and definitely seemed more like a very early setup). And the K'aresh stuff was especially blatant.

The Ethereals and Xal'atath both got Lorewalking questlines (and given that one about the Blood/Void Elf divide was datamined to be next, it's clear that most of these are meant to recap soon-to-be relevant stuff), and unlike the Arthas one, both included new lore. The Xal'atath story showed her conflict with the Old Gods and her getting sealed in the knife, while the Ethereal one revealed that the Brokers were also from K'aresh. It was also the only one to end with a present-day scene, showing the start of a team-up between Locus Walker and Ven'ari. As of right now, that scene is the thing we have that comes across as a 11.2 plot hook.

[Reive]

They just posted the ptr notes for this week. 2 days earlier than the usual. Is anything happening on thursday?

[Merryck]

They just posted the ptr notes for this week. 2 days earlier than the usual. Is anything happening on thursday?

I think we'll get another housing blog post this week.

[Cheezits]

I think 11.2 in k'aresh showing us th dangers of allowing our infighting to give the void a foot hold could easily draw the themes of the Arathi 11.1.7 and short story together with 11.2 and 12.0

Serving as a rebuke of faction tensions (thank God) and encouraging the thalassian's to stand in solidarity together while also helping integrate the etherals more the Ren'dorei to help tie them into azeorth more closely

Oh, what if Ethereals and Brokers were a Alliance vs Horde thing on K'aresh that got everyone killed because they ignored the true threat? Ala what could've happened in BFA.

[Joshuaj]

I think we'll get another housing blog post this week.

Maybe? Idk tho

[Reive]

I think we'll get another housing blog post this week.

last week of the month is more likely imo

[Limayria]

Yes, those are the only things that were teased in 11.1.7 (well, unless you expect the Red Dawn to be followed up on immediately, but that'd be the biggest sudden change imaginable, and definitely seemed more like a very early setup). And the K'aresh stuff was especially blatant.

The Ethereals and Xal'atath both got Lorewalking questlines (and given that one about the Blood/Void Elf divide was datamined to be next, it's clear that most of these are meant to recap soon-to-be relevant stuff), and unlike the Arthas one, both included new lore. The Xal'atath story showed her conflict with the Old Gods and her getting sealed in the knife, while the Ethereal one revealed that the Brokers were also from K'aresh. It was also the only one to end with a present-day scene, showing the start of a team-up between Locus Walker and Ven'ari. As of right now, that scene is the thing we have that comes across as a 11.2 plot hook.

Arthas is also connected heavily to quel'thalas, so we're at 2 seemingly connected to void Etherals and two connected to quel'thalas/elves

Especially considering that the blood elf might be the heritage scenario where you go into the sunwell with kaelthas, it depends on knowledge of Arthas sacking silvermoon

[Kiivar86]

Why though? I do think Sylvanas will come back, but I don't think she will have a heavy interaction with the Forsaken. She will probably come back to save Alleria but family and Quel'thalas would be her focus.

For better or for worse, outside of the stuff in the Shadowlands, Sylvanas is tied to the Forsaken. If she returns to something set in the northern portion of Eastern Kingdoms, I would bet money she has at least some interaction with them. She would be returning home, both as an elf and an undead. Its where she was raised, both in the literal sense and as an undead.

[CaptainV]

I don't think it will be controversial to say Midnight on Gamescom, Last Titan on Blizzcon (Northrend was even teased on trailer). I'm aware TLT is few months early, but just cant imagine Blizzcon return with just 12.2.X patches panel.

I think honestly blizzcon will be when they announce WoW 2, I dont think we will get anyhting more than an announcement but given that this trilogy is implied to be the ending of wow 1's long saga, while I dont doubt more expansions will come for retail, its a good time to hype people for wow 2 and use it to attract gen Z Gen Alpha who might have heard of wow but dont wanna play retail/classic.

We wont get a gameplay trailer for wow 2, more of a logo with a brief cinematic at most of a teaser for 2030 or something.

As for the other things for blizzcon, im expecting:
- Heroes of the Storm reborn, they bring back HoTS its been forever and with Diablo 4, Overwatch 2 and retails latest content they have good champion options for a revival.
- Starcraft 3, probably.
- Wow 2.
- Some kind of ark/conan/builder gatherer survival game themed in warcrafts universe possibly serving as a transition between wow 1 and 2.

Also im expecting a netflix series or amazon series around warcraft, since hints have been given.