Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Trading Post Gryphons are now all wildhammer themed... And mention Northeron... Curioser and curioser

A certain rumor about the classes is true... Checkmate. One of the zones will have a... risky theme. Keep your feet on the ground.

If you swap the letters of his nickname, you get Northeron. Is that why he refers to dwarves? Coincidence, eh?

[Fahrad Wagner]

Northeron eh? Now we're cooking-

[JDBlou]

If you swap the letters of his nickname, you get Northeron. Is that why he refers to dwarves? Coincidence, eh?

Seems reasonably valid now given this new info. Hopefully this means new race class combos? Dwarf druid could go wild. And risky sounds like another life themed zone so soon after Emerald Dream.

[Wangming]

The expansions that i enjoy more were that 4. Each one added a class

Anda the expansions that i didnt enjoy was WoD and Shadowlands, each one not added class neither race

TBC, BFA, Cata and TWW in middle of the table

It might not be simple chance


Anyways, I have always had the feeling that those that add class are done with more desire.

For me enjoyment is a bit all over the place. I mean the clear winner for me is MoP.
But for all its flaws, I actually enjoyed the leveling in BfA (Kul Tiras is fantastic) and I aplaud it trying a few new things, even if those didn't necessarily land.
It also had one of the coolest cinematic, along with WoD, the other stinker.
Also, overall I think what we had in WoD was cool. We just didn't have a lot of it. It also came with loads of system updates, that while not flashy, were necessary.
But I enjoyed WoD leveling more than Legion leveling
(When leveling from 1 to the cap.)

[Cheezits]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Northeron

This was already brought up today, but Northeron was retconned to be in Twilight Highlands. The place people usually mistake it for is called the Eastweald, which is EPL.

Wildhammers come from TH so they have traveled to Northeron.

[Bwgmon]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Northeron

This was already brought up today, but Northeron was retconned to be in Twilight Highlands. The place people usually mistake it for is called the Eastweald, which is EPL.

Wildhammers come from TH so they have traveled to Northeron.

EXPANSION FEATURE: A couple of destroyed houses somewhere

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Northeron

This was already brought up today, but Northeron was retconned to be in Twilight Highlands. The place people usually mistake it for is called the Eastweald, which is EPL.

Wildhammers come from TH so they have traveled to Northeron.

In an old map, Northeron was originally located south-east of Quel'thalas (it's in the wiki you linked to). Maybe they'll retcon their retcon ?

[Viridiel]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Northeron

This was already brought up today, but Northeron was retconned to be in Twilight Highlands. The place people usually mistake it for is called the Eastweald, which is EPL.

Wildhammers come from TH so they have traveled to Northeron.

I've long thought Northeron could show up as an island east of the Arathi Highlands or even Quel'thalas. There's only a tiny settlement left in the Twilight Highlands and there's no obvious direction for it to have sprawled in other than into the ocean. I reckon the glaciers melted and it was carved off the landmass during the Cataclysm, everyone thinking it was destroyed completely.

I don't know how I feel about the idea of it being in Midnight, though. I think the Wildhammer are the most interesting dwarves (bards and all), but dwarves are best taken in short bursts and I don't know if I can handle them immediately after TWW.

[Kiivar86]

So I guess K'aresh has several small cartels for the Brokers again, like how Undermine had cartels. I really hope they don't make them full reputation like the Undermine cartels, because that was frankly absurd levels of grind. They should work like Threads subfactions instead.

[Darkarath]

Northeron being mentioned... That's another hint pointing to a full northern EK revamp. It seems that the Wildhammer Clan would have a decent present in Midnight. I don't see them as an Allied Race, especially since we already have some Wildhammer customization options and Earthen were just introduced.

Maybe a hint of more customization options? Hopefully a revamp of the Race/Allied Race system?

Regarding new specs... I also used to think that Blizzard might include several at a time, but we are just kidding ourselves. It won't happen. Especially with how Hero Talents work.

In 20 years they have introduced ONE new spec to an existing class (Augmentation Evoker).

I would dare to say that Void DH won't happen in TWW unless is just a Class Skin. We have Aldrachi and Fel-Scarred Hero Talent Trees for DH. If they introduce a new spec, not only they have to create a NEW Hero Talent Tree for DHs, but they also would have to subtract one of the existing ones from either Havoc or Vengeance to be replaced for the new one.

The only option of Void DH being a spec is that it comes in Midnight along with a revision of the Hero Talents. For it to be in TWW as current Hero Talents work with specs would be impossible, and I don't see how they could make it work otherwise mid-expansion.

[Teriz]

I think that the next class will be plate user, because one of the most controversial of Evoker was the inability to be tanks, and Blizzard know, perhaps the next class will be tank option and for blizzard tank is leather or plate user, we had 2 leathers tank users as class so i think that this time will be plate user, Spellbreaker can be this...tinker either but i no have hope

I believe the issue with Spellbreaker is that it seems rather redundant with Demon Hunter in the mix. Another elf-based melee class that uses Warglaives? Also a third DH spec makes that situation even worse, because its going to be the void melee spec everyone has been aching for.

I think the DH void spec and expanded hero talents is the only class-based stuff we're getting in Midnight.

[Sentynel]

In 20 years they have introduced ONE new spec to an existing class (Augmentation Evoker).

Well, yes and no... they also split Feral and Guardian in MoP.

[Xeladriel]

I believe the issue with Spellbreaker is that it seems rather redundant with Demon Hunter in the mix. Another elf-based melee class that uses Warglaives? Also a third DH spec makes that situation even worse, because its going to be the void melee spec everyone has been aching for.

I think the DH void spec and expanded hero talents is the only class-based stuff we're getting in Midnight.

I Hope no, that would be so lame


Housing cant carry all of the expansion features

[Darkarath]

Well, yes and no... they also split Feral and Guardian in MoP.

I'll give you that one if you insist, but I believe that the four different playstyles for Druids were present from the very beginning.

I think the DH void spec and expanded hero talents is the only class-based stuff we're getting in Midnight.

Mostly agree (if the Void DH ends up being a spec), although I don't know how much Hero Talents could be expanded without turning them practically into new specs... Maybe their development would be mostly cosmetic? They could mix the concepts of Hero Talents and Class Skins easily, so we'll see.

Also very much doubt that Spellbreakers would be a new class.

I don't see a new class for Midnight (happy to be wrong in this one, though).

[Cheezits]

Honestly, the fact they are comfortable sharing so much about housing right now means they have full faith in Midnight.

It's probably the biggest "gameplay feature" outside of a potential class, however.

[Xeladriel]

Honestly, the fact they are comfortable sharing so much about housing right now means they have full faith in Midnight.

It's probably the biggest "gameplay feature" outside of a potential class, however.

If them really think so i fear so much about that expansion

[Nightshade711]

https://bsky.app/profile/keyboardtur.../3lsf5ljxfls2i

Gleeful Glamour for Ethereals, first "NPC race" to get one.

Interesting.
I haven’t seen that in-game. Perhaps this could mean a playable Ethereal race.

[milkmustache]

Normally I'd be skeptical about the Northeron thing considering we already see it in the Twilight Highlands

but the description of a trading post pet is how we got Undermine soft confirmed. It's highly possible that this expansion expands into EK during the patches.

[Joshuaj]

Normally I'd be skeptical about the Northeron thing considering we already see it in the Twilight Highlands

but the description of a trading post pet is how we got Undermine soft confirmed. It's highly possible that this expansion expands into EK during the patches.

I kinda hope we go to the White Lady in one of Midnight's patches

[milkmustache]

I kinda hope we go to the White Lady in one of Midnight's patches

As cool as that'd be, I think that they're sort of avoiding anything out of Azeroth following TWW. They really seems to be emphasizing this return to the old world, which is why K'aresh was used now.