Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[TheWizardFan88]

How long does Threads like this last until it reaches 5000 pages?

[lionheartsnorer]

HnROOTner.

[Vakir]

HnROOTner.

Gesundheit.

[Jolly Roger]

i dont get 1 thing
theres a 5th old god
thats the black blood

theory: xal was working with the 5th old god then the 5th fell and xal decided to turn traitor and got sealed

xal also talked about how she was torn apart by her bethren so is it possible her origins are on the void planet we saw in star auger?

her shit talking about elune could also be because she was the void minion the night warrior injured

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wow midnight-
level 90-
new neutral city-
silvermoon city
4 zones-
eversong woods
zul aman
northeron
quel danas
map changed back to warcraft 3 and vanilla wow shape
ghostlands merged into eversong
reputation-
shadow sun
amani tribe
northeron guard
silvermoon
sunwell raid-
no class-
hunter class remake will be in
no new spec-
hero talents-
your hero spec can be chosen for another 10
go deeper into hero specs trees like a real spec tree
hero spec is shown on your character name
artifact ring-
no borrowed power
continues from cloak
player housing-
eversong woods neighborhood planned
race exteriors planned
"class skin"-
glyphs added for alt customization
void paladin and void demon hunter examples shown
new neutral race-
ethereal
can be warrior priest hunter warlock mage monk rogue and druid (forms are animals made of cloth wraps)
starting zone the twilight star finishes at level 10
new customization for all-
shadowlands round 2 of customization
troll beards and body shapes like dracthyr

stop
being
specific

[Enrif]

For hire/adventurer, valid way of setting up neutral.

Faction story content also honestly has a future place post-TLT and should also be opt-in and cold/medium heat skirmishes like Vanilla through most of Wrath.

But yeah not to derail - just not sure how an Eversong neighborhood would work.

honestly, i think midnight is the perfect time to introduce some type of neutral option for players. The elven reunification plot could be that. Night Elves and Blood Elves got shafted by the faction war at some point. So i see a neutral Silvermoon, and the option for players to also become neutral. I could see a bunch of races immediately follow into neutrality after the elves. Dracthyr, Earthen, Pandaren, Goblins, Gnomes, Mechagnomes, Dark Iron, Vulpera, Tauren, High Mountain, Void Elves, Nightborne, Draenei, Lightforged, Forsaken.
While some core races of the factions might not be into it. Humans, Kul Tirans, Dwarves, Worgen could be core alliance races, and Orc, Mag'har, Troll, Zandalari are core Horde. (but players of these races could still be neutral).

This would shake up the world, and allow for smaller scale conflicts, and not always to get to a all out war between horde and alliance.

[Hitei]

Gesundheit.

It's the same guy who was fake leak posting a few days ago. It's just an anagram for Northeron.

[Limayria]

Yeah, the new neighborhood made me raise my eyebrows too - factions are obviously not very important anymore as of right now, but they are still hardline about making it opt-in to be buddies in terms of things like queues still being forced as separate.

Would that mean two faction instances of the same identical neighborhood aesthetic? Would the Alliance one be different with more Quel'dorei colors?

Can we have a wall between the two where we throw eggs and put up mean banners towards the other side?



Yeah, I love it and pray it's real.

The class skins things would work if it's just a continuation of a few abilities recolored in terms of being a glyph vs. an entire green fire suite situation.

People will likely be disappointed by that but it's better than nothing.

(Another thing people underestimate - a full class reskin also means entire class worths of talent trees - like 20-30 nodes - renamed and re-iconed if you're looking for a full fantasy. VERY difficult.)

Idk icons might actually be the hardest part, there are a ton of animations and spell effects visuals that aren't used any more or were never used by players in the first place that you could throw together to create very interesting class skins, which you can even do right now by using things like imorph (I'm still not sure if we're allowed to mention stuff like that on this here) never mind actually being able to make slight changes or recolorations

[Lady Atia]

It's the same guy who was fake leak posting a few days ago. It's just an anagram for Northeron.

Which again, makes still 0 sense unless they forget their own retcons again.

[Cheezits]

Which again, makes still 0 sense unless they forget their own retcons again.

Or Northeron gets risen from the sea for some reason.

[Lady Atia]

honestly, i think midnight is the perfect time to introduce some type of neutral option for players. The elven reunification plot could be that. Night Elves and Blood Elves got shafted by the faction war at some point. So i see a neutral Silvermoon, and the option for players to also become neutral. I could see a bunch of races immediately follow into neutrality after the elves. Dracthyr, Earthen, Pandaren, Goblins, Gnomes, Mechagnomes, Dark Iron, Vulpera, Tauren, High Mountain, Void Elves, Nightborne, Draenei, Lightforged, Forsaken.
While some core races of the factions might not be into it. Humans, Kul Tirans, Dwarves, Worgen could be core alliance races, and Orc, Mag'har, Troll, Zandalari are core Horde. (but players of these races could still be neutral).

This would shake up the world, and allow for smaller scale conflicts, and not always to get to a all out war between horde and alliance.

Why would you do that though? Every future content update will be neutral anyways, and having old stuff open up for both faction seems to be a coding nightmare especially for the spaghetti code that's WoW. I could see them opening up cities for non-warmode, sure, but everything else just isn't worth it, especially as they want you to play more than one character anyways.

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Or Northeron gets risen from the sea for some reason.

Would still be too far away from QT. Because you know, it's still the QT expansion, not Lordaeron.

I *could* accept the "it broke away during the Cataclysm" excuse but than it would still be super small, good for the "0.7 patch island", but not big enough for one of the four zones imo. And making it part of the Maisara Hills zone (the closest to the Twilight Highlands) would also be weird imo as the Amani are rich enough for their own zone, and I'm not sure we need a b plot with wildhammer dwarfes in there tbh. Again, as a breather mini patch with catch up gear - sure, go for it.

[Cheezits]

Also, an ice zone before Northrend would be redundant imo. Kind of like Rootlands after the Dream but in reverse.

Definitely want to see the Wildhammer due to their proximity, and they are cool, but not a zone about them.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Would still be too far away from QT. Because you know, it's still the QT expansion, not Lordaeron.

I *could* accept the "it broke away during the Cataclysm" excuse but than it would still be super small, good for the "0.7 patch island", but not big enough for one of the four zones imo. And making it part of the Maisara Hills zone (the closest to the Twilight Highlands) would also be weird imo as the Amani are rich enough for their own zone, and I'm not sure we need a b plot with wildhammer dwarfes in there tbh. Again, as a breather mini patch with catch up gear - sure, go for it.

Did you forget that in Chronicles the elves had to cross a deadly frozen zone before settling north of EK? At first I thought it might be an entirely new zone, but this leak made me re-read the description of Northeron:

« It was known for its mysterious ironwood tree forests, the torrential storms from its frozen mountains, ominous and foreboding peaks, and jagged ice cliffs»

It's a perfect match. It's too good to be just a coincidence. And remember, Northeron was originally located in Quel'thalas before being retconed to an insignificant corner in the Twilight Highlands.

[Raetary]

How big a tree we talking if the roots are in Azeroth's southern and northern hemispheres

I mean, it's the roots of a World Tree, planted by Eonar herself, that have had time to grow for at least over 20k years.

And if we go by the assumption that the roots reached and surround the World Core, they could grow in really any direction and therefore end up anywhere.

And who knows how powerful they are that close to the World Soul.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

Also, an ice zone before Northrend would be redundant imo. Kind of like Rootlands after the Dream but in reverse.

Definitely want to see the Wildhammer due to their proximity, and they are cool, but not a zone about them.

Not so much. We have forests at every extension, do people complain about seeing trees? A completely or partially frozen zone would be cool to contrast thematically with the other Quel'thalas zones. Besides, if it's a Wildhammer and ice troll zone, I think it would be quite different from what we might see in TLT. It all depends on the art team, I find for example that the Azur Span ice zones stand out well. You can feel the magic.

[Joshuaj]

Also, an ice zone before Northrend would be redundant imo. Kind of like Rootlands after the Dream but in reverse.

Definitely want to see the Wildhammer due to their proximity, and they are cool, but not a zone about them.

Now tbf here, we are getting a Void zone before the Void invasion expac lol.

An ice-based zone with a crystal castle or summ would be kinda nice ngl. Heck, maybe the final patch of Midnight could take place on one of Azeroth's Moons (if not the first patch?). That wouldn't be icy, but it would still be cool.

[Hitei]

Did you forget that in Chronicles the elves had to cross a deadly frozen zone before settling north of EK? At first I thought it might be an entirely new zone, but this leak made me re-read the description of Northeron:



It's a perfect match. It's too good to be just a coincidence. And remember, Northeron was originally located in Quel'thalas before being retconed to an insignificant corner in the Twilight Highlands.

If anything they would just name such an area something else.

[Joshuaj]

Not so much. We have forests at every extension, do people complain about seeing trees? A completely or partially frozen zone would be cool to contrast thematically with the other Quel'thalas zones. Besides, if it's a Wildhammer and ice troll zone, I think it would be quite different from what we might see in TLT. It all depends on the art team, I find for example that the Azur Span ice zones stand out well. You can feel the magic.

If we get a magical ice zone, then it needs a crystal palace.

[Cheezits]

I will just let out a resounding sigh if they don't touch the plaguelands and instead introduce another Khaz Algar off the coast of the Hinterlands. I would even rather a naga zone than that.

Now, sunken Northeron turned into a naga base, we could cook with that.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

If anything they would just name such an area something else.

I'm just sure right now that they're going to make a frozen zone, if they haven't totally forgotten Chronicles. Maybe it's actually Northeron, or whatever you call it. That's my ultimate bingo.

I personally think it's easier to rename a small forgotten ruined corner than an entire potential area. But we'll see.

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If we get a magical ice zone, then it needs a crystal palace.

That would be wonderful. OMG get ready for the new allied race... the ice elves.

[Lady Atia]

I'm just sure right now that they're going to make a frozen zone, if they haven't totally forgotten Chronicles. Maybe it's actually Northeron, or whatever you call it. That's my ultimate bingo.

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That would be wonderful. OMG get ready for the new allied race... the ice elves.

Ice Elves would actually be cool though.


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