Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

So the overlying theme of Midnight is going to be Alleria's vengeance quest on Xal?

I didn't think I could be more disinterested in Midnight's storyline..... The Last Titan can't get here fast enough.

[Nibelheimy]

Hey, as long as the first tier isn't a mirror of 11.0 but just with amani trolls instead of Nerunbians.

A little thought, did Xal also use reshi wraps and become 'ethereal' in some sense? So her appearance in the old god council is after K'aresh's destruction? I'm assuming that the timeline is her in K'aresh, her on Azeroth with old gods, her in knife, her in dead elf body.

I really hope that isn't setting a precedent for the rest of the Ethereals as in, I hope there isn't going to be a load of dead Elf body's soon they could occupy.

Another cursed timeline outcome. Playable Xal'dorei.

[Joshuaj]

So the overlying theme of Midnight is going to be Alleria's vengeance quest on Xal?

I didn't think I could be more disinterested in Midnight's storyline..... The Last Titan can't get here fast enough.

Ehhh that's part of it. It's also going to likely be about Void Lord Xal'atath's invasion on Azeroth, likely with Azshara and Pandemonius aiding her (that, or Pandemonius goes against her, cause he was the general for Dimensius's armies, but an All-Devouring is an All-Devouring ig? Idk).

[Wangming]

By now it's expected that all females just have to have double layer plot armor at all times. They just can't die

I'm not bothered with the character roster being filled with chicks. They don't even need to all be hot. They are drawn with wow engine anyway.
The problem is, they are badly written. If written at all.

[Joshuaj]

She'd still be a Void Lord, and she'd likely have K'aresh's power, assuming she didn't expunge it all in their counterattack against the fallen All-Devouring.

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Dude this expansion barely had any story and this is like the 5th time Alleria swears to hunt down Xalatath. Are you serious? And it's again more tell than show
Also, of course the only guy in this storyline had to bite the dust. Why did they even bother bringing him back..?
By now it's expected that all females just have to have double layer plot armor at all times. They just can't die
This was the perfect moment to get Alleria killed and show that this time, the hunter became the hunted, as opposed to chasing Malganis, Guldan or Illidan and the predictable way in which those ended
It would have also catalyzed Turalyon to stop being afk and do something, and also give a good reason for Arator to step in, in a major way
But alas
You know, for a company like Microsoft that likes to fire thousands per year, it sure seems odd that this one team (writing) that has been consistely bad for almost a decade now is still largely untouched. Very bizarre
Anyway, given how things are, I guess the best course of action now is to wait for Midnight alpha and check the datamined stories before making a purchase
Watch them pull a Kerrigan with Xalatath

If it means anything, Arator is getting a new model and everything. And I'm ngl...he MIGHT be the true child of Light and Shadow.

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Hey, as long as the first tier isn't a mirror of 11.0 but just with amani trolls instead of Nerunbians.

A little thought, did Xal also use reshi wraps and become 'ethereal' in some sense? So her appearance in the old god council is after K'aresh's destruction? I'm assuming that the timeline is her in K'aresh, her on Azeroth with old gods, her in knife, her in dead elf body.

I really hope that isn't setting a precedent for the rest of the Ethereals as in, I hope there isn't going to be a load of dead Elf body's soon they could occupy.

Another cursed timeline outcome.

Why would it be a mirror? This is the Void invading Azeroth. The Amani would at best be akin to the Nightborne...MAYBE.

[Nibelheimy]

Why would it be a mirror? This is the Void invading Azeroth. The Amani would at best be akin to the Nightborne...MAYBE.

You don't see how Xal bargaining falsely with Amani leader to lead assault on Silvermoon and Quelthalas could be a little similar to 11.0? My post was also half sarcastic. I'm not suggesting or hoping it'd be similar.

+ you know, we don't know exactly how any of the "void invading" is going to happen yet. We're just going to kill Dimensius. What Void exactly is going to invade on release? It's more than likely as I've always said, going to have a tier of defending the Sunwell for Alleria to be tricked into corrupting it.

There's a K'thraxi under Zul'Aman, I can't imagine that won't be addressed.

[Timester]

Dude this expansion barely had any story

I love when people mix up "I didn't like the story" with facts. Saying that this expansion barely had any story is either an overexageration or just a plain lie.

It answered to so many leftover plots for past WoW.


Anyway, no source about the lines, so I'm taking them with a HUGE grain of salt.

[COBRAstriker]

So the overlying theme of Midnight is going to be Alleria's vengeance quest on Xal?

I didn't think I could be more disinterested in Midnight's storyline..... The Last Titan can't get here fast enough.

It's supposed to be far bigger than that, it's supposed to be about Renilash, an apocalyptic war between the void and the light. But I wouldn't be surprised if it boils down to what you said
After all, Thrall was front and center for TWW, and then he went completely MIA past some short questline in 11.0 which wasn't even relevant to the main plot

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I'm not bothered with the character roster being filled with chicks. They don't even need to all be hot. They are drawn with wow engine anyway.
The problem is, they are badly written. If written at all.

Like everything in life, there needs to be a balance. When you keep repeating the same themes and tropes over and over again, it becomes offputting and it shows intent in sending a certain message
Alleria dying would have given the opportunity to have Arator, Turalyon, Vereesa and Locus Walker go all in, in Midnight
Locus Walker dying is just pointless

[Timester]

It's supposed to be far bigger than that, it's supposed to be about Renilash, an apocalyptic war between the void and the light. But I wouldn't be surprised if it boils down to what you said

Assumption much? No one but Blizzard knows what Midnight is or isn't supposed to be.

See, this is the problem with speculation threads sometimes, people get into their own fanon speculation so much that then get dissapointed when they are proven wrong.

[Teriz]

Ehhh that's part of it. It's also going to likely be about Void Lord Xal'atath's invasion on Azeroth, likely with Azshara and Pandemonius aiding her (that, or Pandemonius goes against her, cause he was the general for Dimensius's armies, but an All-Devouring is an All-Devouring ig? Idk).

Well yeah, that's the backdrop, but I just know I'm going to be treated to multiple cutscenes of angry Alleria talking about or attacking Xal, and the "plot" is going to keep highlighting that interaction as if its compelling or interesting.

It's Sylvanas from BFA and Shadowlands all over again.

We still have two more patches for something to happen to Alleria.

Hopefully she dies.

[Cheezits]

We still have two more patches for something to happen to Alleria.

[COBRAstriker]

Assumption much? No one but Blizzard knows what Midnight is or isn't supposed to be.

See, this is the problem with speculation threads sometimes, people get into their own fanon speculation so much that then get dissapointed when they are proven wrong.

That is literally what Metzen said at Blizzcon when talking about Midnight

[Wangming]

Like everything in life, there needs to be a balance. When you keep repeating the same themes and tropes over and over again, it becomes offputting and it shows intent in sending a certain message
Alleria dying would have given the opportunity to have Arator, Turalyon, Vereesa and Locus Walker go all in, in Midnight
Locus Walker dying is just pointless

I guess. I mean I couldn't care less about Arator or Tularyon so it doesn't matter much to me which one of them is going all out in Midnight.

[Timester]

That is literally what Metzen said at Blizzcon when talking about Midnight

And who said isn't happening?

Heck, if the spoilers are true (still need confirmation), it pretty much sells the deal that shit WILL happen in Midnight. You are making an assumption of Alleria being alive (because you want her dead for your own story preferences) somehow negates everything else that is happening.

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I guess. I mean I couldn't care less about Arator or Tularyon so it doesn't matter much to me which one of them is going all out in Midnight.

Turalyon (same as Alleria) is a pure Metzen creation from Warcraft II - Beyond the Dark Portal. They are quintessencial Metzen characters.

People expect the unexpected and still are surprised, somehow.

[COBRAstriker]

And who said isn't happening?.

You claimed that Renilash is my fanfiction, when it is literally what Metzen said at Blizzcon when referencing Midnight
Alleria dying would have made far more sense at setting up Midnight and also setting up characters like Arator and Vereesa
Locus Walker dying does what, exactly?
It just seems completely pointless
Alleria gets to have a monologue about it, I guess, and help her decide to hunt down Xalatath, for realsies this time. Whoop dee doo

[Timester]

You claimed that Renilash is my fanfiction, when it is literally what Metzen said at Blizzcon when referencing Midnight

Still your fanon, because yet again nothing ever said that Renilash was Midnight or that Midnight isn't about Void vs Light. Nothing at all. If anything, Xal becoming the All-Devourer pretty much confirms. And somehow you can't see it.

Alleria dying would have made far more sense at setting up Midnight and also setting up characters like Arator and Vereesa

That's your story preference, not what sets Midnight or not. You are complaining about a tree when the entire concept is a forest.

Locus Walker dying does what, exactly?

And Alleria dying does what, exactly? Again, tree and forest.

I guess, and help her decide to hunt down Xalatath, for realsies this time.

She never stopped hunting Xal, not even in 11.2.

[Cheezits]

Locus Walker dying does what, exactly?

Probably to shift the story to the Wastelander Ethereals as Locus-Walker destroyed the planet making him a questionable racial leader.

People thinking he's wasted here are going to want more context in the patch itself. Him dying is essentially penance for his mistakes, which he repeats.

[Timester]

Probably to shift the story to the Wastelander Ethereals as Locus-Walker destroyed the planet making him a questionable racial leader.

People thinking he's wasted here are going to want more context in the patch itself.

Believing that the "spoiler" is even true.

[Wangming]

Turalyon (same as Alleria) is a pure Metzen creation from Warcraft II - Beyond the Dark Portal. They are quintessencial Metzen characters.

People expect the unexpected and still are surprised, somehow.

Not sure I understand your thought process.

[Cheezits]

Believing that the "spoiler" is even true.

My spoiler is correct, and I would assume the one on reddit is also true. It probably takes place after the raid cinematic so it isnt encrypted.