Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Xeladriel]

people dislike dracthrys, not evokers

mmm i'm not sure of that

[Makorus]

wow need a new class because the lastest (evoker) was dissapointing for much people

What?

No one has a problem with the class. Augmentation was only disliked because it was too strong. Preservation is an extremely unique healer and Devastation after S2 of DF was insanely well-received (if not overshadowed).

[Nightshade711]

people dislike dracthrys, not evokers

Agree.
I like Evoker gameplay but hate the Dracthyr.

[Xeladriel]

Agree.
I like Evoker gameplay but hate the Dracthyr.

but an evoker is a dracthyr, if you will have another race for evoker, when use the ability transforms you into dracthyr either

[LuxTheGamer]

Shaman tanks would be great! for a new specialization imo, but I doubt it'd happen, isn't shaman tanks in SoD? https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...tion/#lightbox check out this concept from two years ago.

[Reive]

but an evoker is a dracthyr, if you will have another race for evoker, when use the ability transforms you into dracthyr either

people like the concept of evokers but not that is tied to the scalie-fetish race

[Xeladriel]

people like the concept of evokers but not that is tied to the scalie-fetish race

i know but that class is totally tied on dracthyr, you use the powers of the 5 Flights, and you need to be draconic to use that powers.

Blizzard can do more visage for dracthyrs but not much more


Is the most restricted class of entire game because is not a class is a race-class

[Reive]

i know but that class is totally tied on dracthyr, you use the powers of the 5 Flights, and you need to be draconic to use that powers.

Blizzard can do more visage for dracthyrs but not much more


Is the most restricted class of entire game because is not a class is a race-class

they could always add a "glyph of stars" for dracthrys but i know they won't.

[Nightshade711]

but an evoker is a dracthyr, if you will have another race for evoker, when use the ability transforms you into dracthyr either

It is possible to like gameplay without liking the appearance of the race.

If the Dracthyr looked more Draconic instead of looking like geckos they’d be better c

[LuxTheGamer]

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...-dragonkin.jpg (OOPS Forgot to reply)

[Makorus]

they could always add a "glyph of stars" for dracthrys but i know they won't.

They did state in an interview early on in TWW that staying in visage form "almost permanently" will be an option.

Really, all they have to do is make you switch into Dracthyr form while casting Empowered Spells/Deep Breath and then switch back when you are done.

I don't think getting rid of the Dracthyr form entirely is the right choice.

[Khaza-R]

They did state in an interview early on in TWW that staying in visage form "almost permanently" will be an option.

Really, all they have to do is make you switch into Dracthyr form while casting Empowered Spells/Deep Breath and then switch back when you are done.

I don't think getting rid of the Dracthyr form entirely is the right choice.

For me a bigger issue is being stuck with their visage form. When lorewise it makes zero sense and they should be able to choose any race to look like. It also conveniently solves the issue of other races getting to have Evokers in a sort of round about way.

[Limayria]

I wish they'd add new character customizations like ff14 does, it'd be awesome to have hair cuts and stuff you earn around the world

But ig wow has too many races for that to really work as it'd be hard to make hair styles work on all of them


At the very least I hope they add more options to character creation like allowing both a bang and hair style selector

[Eldryth]

I think the rumor that there will be several classes during the saga is possible. Let me explain.

The saga offers an overview of future expansions, both for us players and for the developers. If the development of a class takes time and is a fairly rare phenomenon in WoW, it's possible that it's due to the development time given to expansions, their theme and system. As they used to tend to move forward without really knowing where they were going, we didn't always have a class because the theme or development time didn't fit. But now that there's a plan, they've already got the theme and they're saving development time, leaving room for the development of classes.

And that's why we may get a class in Midnight and TLT. Full copium.

I'm still hoping for that myself. I'd like to believe that the source had at least some credibility, given that they also hyped up the Warcraft Direct reveals to an implausible degree and turned out to be right (they said that it'd have the biggest news since the initial launch, iirc, and housing lived up to that for a lot of people).

I could be mistaken, but to me it sounds like housing is mostly its own team that's been working alongside all other development for years, so it shouldn't be taking resources away from other features. And the fact that they're planning further ahead now should make class additions more feasible. And I'd be shocked if they didn't save something huge for Midnight's full reveal- if they planned to just have housing carry the expansion (which, admittedly, it probably could), I think they'd have waited to reveal it there.


And personally, as someone who plays every class at least a bit and is constantly changing mains, a new class is always one of the most exciting features any expansion can have- only massive gameplay features like M+, Delves, or Housing can beat it.

[Scyth]

For me a bigger issue is being stuck with their visage form. When lorewise it makes zero sense and they should be able to choose any race to look like. It also conveniently solves the issue of other races getting to have Evokers in a sort of round about way.

It’s honestly bizarre to me they still haven’t opened up the visage to every race. Sometimes they pick the weirdest hills to die on.


I also just read the datamined conversation between Alleria and Ve’nari and I’m very disappointed tbh. Entirely predictable and not remotely interesting imo..

[Hitei]

It’s honestly bizarre to me they still haven’t opened up the visage to every race. Sometimes they pick the weirdest hills to die on.

It's not weird at all. Why would you ever implement one race that can just be every other race visually?

[Enrif]

It's not weird at all. Why would you ever implement one race that can just be every other race visually?

It wouldn't be a "race" that can be all other races, it would be a class, that transforms every race into a draconic creature. Like demon hunters are turned into demons, and death knights are turned into undead. The dracthyr form would be just like a druids moonkin form or shamans avatar form for the evoker class.

[Khaza-R]

It's not weird at all. Why would you ever implement one race that can just be every other race visually?

That's literally what dragons do in WarCraft? They aren't actually forced into some specific mortal form. Its entirely their choice.

That's what's so weird about the Dracthyr visage. There's no choice at all.

[Jolly Roger]

"the void was her salvation" is the Azshara situation... and it is very boring if Blizzard serve to us again a "I will never serve" after Sylvanas...
Because in that way they are merging Azshara and Sylvanas transforming them into the new "Galactus"...


I hope they cook for Xala something more interesting than: "I wanna eat worlds for revenge", I hope there is a bigger scheme, bucause by now her action are very predictable: Xala will betray us, after having us do all the work for her, probably killing Locus too (or he will sacrifice himself to save Alleria/us).

We have been told the story of Locus, which will probably be used to put Alleria in the same situation, but at the end she will make different choices...
after all, we got a huge sword ready to be used (as the Chekhov's gun of WoW)...

What if, Sargers, instead of being a crazy Titan who wanted to kill our Worldsoul, gave us the Sword to free her and use it to kill/imprison Xala again...

alleria is set to be the mirror of xal but likely instead of turning at the pivotal moment her family saves her
Xal is essentially palpatine just going through pawns

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That's literally what dragons do in WarCraft? They aren't actually forced into some specific mortal form. Its entirely their choice.

That's what's so weird about the Dracthyr visage. There's no choice at all.

because they didnt spend centuries around mortals and are technically creations

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It’s honestly bizarre to me they still haven’t opened up the visage to every race. Sometimes they pick the weirdest hills to die on.


I also just read the datamined conversation between Alleria and Ve’nari and I’m very disappointed tbh. Entirely predictable and not remotely interesting imo..

i mean it got kinda spoiled by the journal plus the fact Xal is always gonna betray.
it was like sylvanas expecting zoval to not enslave reality

[Lorgar Aurelian]

i know but that class is totally tied on dracthyr, you use the powers of the 5 Flights, and you need to be draconic to use that powers.

Blizzard can do more visage for dracthyrs but not much more


Is the most restricted class of entire game because is not a class is a race-class

Really all they would need is a HD dragon breath head and some spectral wings and tail and you could give the class to any race.

Mortals using the aspects powers have been around for ever and is why classic draknoids exist they just need to expand that to all 5 aspects which would be easy lore now that there all back by just saying they blessed the player.