Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lady Atia]

The new class being a Dancer archetype would be pretty cool, but it will piss people off (another OC class) unless they really want to lean on the K'aresh fantasy in future patches.

Guess it could be the new Cloth class? It does fit Elf fantasy.

I mean, dancer is cool but I would rather get a bard first.

[Khaza-R]

That was pretty cool if nothing other than the world-building for the K'aresshi.

Also interesting that Brokers seem to have had different names before forming cartels, or that cartels did exist originally on K'aresh.

[Lahis]

Mostly about Locus-Walker's origins and it doesn't actually spoil the 11.2 campaign or its reveals. Interesting to note that Ky'veza appears as an ally for all of the book as does "Nari".

The Lorewalking story about Ethereals and Brokers already confirmed that Locus Walker and Ve'nari knew each other. This is how they met.

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That was pretty cool if nothing other than the world-building for the K'aresshi.

Also interesting that Brokers seem to have had different names before forming cartels, or that cartels did exist originally on K'aresh.

Some of the K'areshi has cartel names in the story, some of them don't. Back then not everyone belonged to cartel or creed that would add part into their names.

[Xeladriel]

I mean, dancer is cool but I would rather get a bard first.

what if, the class is Artist and one spec is Spelldancer and another Bard?

[Makorus]

Isn't this why they were added the first place? Most classes weren't lucky enough to get a green fire questline. Most of them got nothing over years, but instead a slow erosion of whatever what identity that had established since vanilla. So while they didn't all do the job perfectly, I think the concept itself is fine way to address what class fantasy in looks like in modern WoW.

The problem with that is that a class hall is meaningless in that aspect. You need actual content. And WoW struggles to give identity to all but 4-5 races.

Evergreen Class Halls are the class halls we have right now. Just places you kind of idle around at.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I think the point of Class Halls is to basically be a vessel for the creation of SFX and further class customization but as we all are very well aware of. Blizzard refuses to make Transmog toggleagle in Settings still, so I don't see any chance of that happening.

Again, I think Class Halls are cool and I would love to see them but I also agree with current sentiment on its' pointlessness. There's just very little reason to stay around in the Class Hall itself without additions and improvements and its going to be way harder now that Neighbourhoods with popularity and your own Home enters the fray.

Don't get me wrong I do love Class Quests from Classic, but again as with everything in a modern application unless its' something more intriguing like Class Mastery and again we know how hard that implementation is in Modern too since it will be problematic.

There's just very few applications Class Halls have other than a "Please give them back, Blizzard. They were cool and you shouldn't have removed them and you should build on the idea(?)"

[Cheezits]

what if, the class is Artist and one spec is Spelldancer and another Bard?

Some kind of music themed class that blends bard, dancer and ??? if there's a third spec. Unsure what the third would be but a musical class would fit the overall Radiant Song theme. If Ethereals are playable it would fit them and it feels vaguely Elf-y for Midnight.

Or it's a a dancer class that makes music.

[Xeladriel]

Some kind of music themed class that blends bard, dancer and ??? if there's a third spec. Unsure what the third would be but a musical class would fit the overall Radiant Song theme.

Or it's a a dancer class that makes music.

bard, dancer and pictomancer? hahaha, would be funny, a little steal from ff14 but warcraft style

[Vakir]

"I think this character is just disliked because you want him to glaze you, the player."

"No, here's multiple reasons including the overexposure of a character."

3 other "yes and" comments mindlessly agreeing with the assumed reason as factually determined

Why even fucking bother?

Also, only idiots disliked Zenos based on him suddenly being a threat to the player. He was underwritten until his (first) dying words. He was great in Endwalker because his ethos worked perfectly with its themes. "In From the Cold" wrecked our character, as did the finale, and significantly less complained then - maybe because it was well executed?!

[Jastall]

Do you think they have the balls to give her a shrivelled old model that is emaciated and wrinkly?

I've always thought Sylvanas looking like a sexy Drow with running mascara detracted from her character. She'd have been much cooler looking like an actual corpse.

As for Nathanos, he'd need a personality transplant to be something else than an elf's annoying simp, and thus wouldn't be Nathanos anymore. The expansion is likely to be so overloaded with characters as it is between the barrage of elves of a dozen flavors, and the Light adjacent characters, and the Void adjacent characters, and whatever new characters perhaps make their appearance, that I don't see a real reason for him to be back. Sylvanas might make it due to hype, she might have enough fans left. Close to nobody is hyped for Nathanos.

[huth]

Good point. No one is saying her punishment is over.
She could act all like Kael"thas and is purely there for Silvermoon. This whole void attack and saving it would älso benefit death and more I would think

Theotar going "The Void is planning something that would be awfully inconvenient to us, go and wag your finger at them" would be perfectly in character.

[Cheezits]

Also interesting is that we get a look at K'aresh's original aesthetic, and it is indeed big ol' Arabian spires.

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms...1597954724.png

So are we going to see this in a future patch? Also... Brokers always had the funny legs?

[Timester]

Also interesting is that we get a look at K'aresh's original aesthetic, and it is indeed big ol' Arabian spires.

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms...1597954724.png

So are we going to see this in a future patch? Also... Brokers always had the funny legs?

The mural is great. It shows the three parts of the story.

[Lady Atia]

what if, the class is Artist and one spec is Spelldancer and another Bard?

That on the other hand would be awesome indeed! I'm onboard *_*

[Darkarath]

I don't know what to think about this story.

Worldbuilding for 11.2, sure, but it raises more questions than answers. The biggest one being the Void being that they are hunting. It is my understanding that it is Krysson? How? How it chased Locus Walker? Doesn't make much sense.

Also how old are Ethereals? They could be 100.000 years old for all that we know. Not just Locus Walker, but ALL Ethereals, because I'm guessing that they are unable to reproduce, and we have killed a few thousands already. Just how many of them were in K'aresh?

[CopyX1982]

Locus-Walker was a technomancer? A noble class indeed, he says.

That caught my attention.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I mean I am happy that we are kind of having a Argus situation here, but.. I feel like the fact no one internally recognize how much more interesting it'd be if we had some sort of handoff of the Dark Heart from Azir to Salhadaar and then the emergence of Dimensius himself being actually shown.

Again, maybe I get surprised and there is a sequence shown. But, I am just so surprised how kaleidoscopically messy everything is these days.

If nothing else, I take the reading material and enjoy the audio book at a later point. Its a better have than have-not even if this expansion is and was so completely pointless in its existence.

[Kiivar86]

Also how old are Ethereals? They could be 100.000 years old for all that we know. Not just Locus Walker, but ALL Ethereals, because I'm guessing that they are unable to reproduce, and we have killed a few thousands already. Just how many of them were in K'aresh?

The boss entry for Soulbinder Naazindhri seems to imply that there's just still Ethereal souls out in the Twisting Nether just floating about:

Without Soulbinder Naazindhri, the immense army ofthe Shadowguard would not exist. Coaxing the souls of ethereals out of the Twisting Nether, the Soulbinder binds them in living silk and in purpose to serve the Shadowguard. While using the Shadowguard to defend herself, she also considers them her children. Slaying them will only focus her ire.

Could be many souls of those from K'aresh are still out there, I suppose.

[Hitei]

How? How it chased Locus Walker? Doesn't make much sense.

Why wouldn't it make sense? Void creatures and void wielding beings have always been able to open rifts and portals across long distances. It was just hanging out in Telogrus with the countless other void creatures, Locus-Walker was the one who felt it and decided to go pursue it.

[Cheezits]

I mean I am happy that we are kind of having a Argus situation here, but.. I feel like the fact no one internally recognize how much more interesting it'd be if we had some sort of handoff of the Dark Heart from Azir to Salhadaar and then the emergence of Dimensius himself being actually shown.

Spoilers but in 11.2 the campaign has a lot of assumptions that Salhadaar is dead, ie TBC, and it's supposed to be a reveal that he isn't right before the raid. While that kind of cinematic would be cool it would spoil the narrative they are going for. Maybe they'll still do something like that, as there currently isn't a patch opening cinematic.