Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Foolicious]

Azeroth was still in communication with Magni during BfA (ze woons!). She only abandoned him afterwards.

Oh right. I somehow forgot bfa was a thing

[Jolly Roger]

Has anyone listened to Pyromancer recently? I was listening to him watch the new audio novellas and his takes are deranged. He was talking about how the Raval are fractals for the Pantheon, how Locus Walker is a fractal for Sargeras, how Dimensius has been Ordered because he's blue ... and someone in his chat unironically said the Raval showing up in hoods is a fractal for the dark portal figures. What the fuck.

hes been tainted by SL
and puts everything through a lense of FF lore

dude broke after mr gm bullied him over an in game store

[Ashworth]

In other word, the Radiant Song is a proximity alarm then.

Maybe that's why they called it Siren's Isle.

[Enrif]

In other word, the Radiant Song is a proximity alarm then.

That doesn't make sense. We had a legion invasion, but no radiant song. We have no void invasion yet, but already the radiant song. And Dimensius is who knows how far away on K'aresh.

[Timester]

That doesn't make sense. We had a legion invasion, but no radiant song. We have no void invasion yet, but already the radiant song. And Dimensius is who knows how far away on K'aresh.

Legion prequel novel was the first time that the Speaker Magni woke up to warn up about the upcoming Legion invasion. Also, Azeroth is warning about Xal in TWW.

[Enrif]

Legion prequel novel was the first time that the Speaker Magni woke up to warn up about the upcoming Legion invasion. Also, Azeroth is warning about Xal in TWW.

But there is a very different type of warning and proximity.

Legion actually invaded on MASS = just talk to the speaker?
Xal is doing some dealings in the back, no actual invasion, and the worst of them is on the other side of the galaxy and only gets awaken due to the dark heart being stolen way later? = ring out to everyone!

That doesn't add up.

[Timester]

But there is a very different type of warning and proximity.

Legion actually invaded on MASS = just talk to the speaker?
Xal is doing some dealings in the back, no actual invasion, and the worst of them is on the other side of the galaxy and only gets awaken due to the dark heart being stolen way later? = ring out to everyone!

That doesn't add up.

Because the concept progressed?

Also, it's not like the Radiant Song is talking to every being on Azeroth, only major characters heard the Song and then only Orweyna was able to contact Azeroth and learn about the goblins.

Same thing seems happened with K'aresh.

[Enrif]

Also, it's not like the Radiant Song is talking to every being on Azeroth, only major characters heard the Song and then only Orweyna was able to contact Azeroth and learn about the goblins.

No, not "only major character"

Lady Jaina Proudmoore says: People are experiencing visions of a "Radiant Song" all across Azeroth. We have reason to believe it's a warning of some kind.

We only interact with major characters, but the radiant song is going on everywhere to many people

[Nymrohd]

That doesn't make sense. We had a legion invasion, but no radiant song. We have no void invasion yet, but already the radiant song. And Dimensius is who knows how far away on K'aresh.

You know the answer is simple right? They had not thought of the Radiant Song back then so it did not exist.

[Timester]

We only interact with major characters, but the radiant song is going on everywhere to many people

Not true. Magni didn't heard, and for example, Modera was the only of the Council of Six heard:

Archmage Ansirem Runeweaver says: What was it like, Modera? The Radiant Song.
Archmage Modera says: It was warm. Comforting. Like coming home. Yet I couldn't tell you exactly why that was.
Archmage Ansirem Runeweaver says: Fascinating. And you still have no idea why it chose you? None of the other council members have yet to see it.
Archmage Modera says: I have no idea. Let's hope that Jaina's investigations prove fruitful. The sooner we understand this vision, the better.


Not everyone heard.

You know the answer is simple right? They had not thought of the Radiant Song back then so it did not exist.

Exactly. Like I said, the concept progressed.

[Enrif]

You know the answer is simple right? They had not thought of the Radiant Song back then so it did not exist.

which would be extremely bad storytelling, and i hope Metzen would not allow that.

Assuming Metzen doesn't screw up: It is more likely the radiant song is not a warning mechanism, but something else.

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Not true. Magni didn't heard, and for example, Modera was the only of the Council of Six heard:

Archmage Ansirem Runeweaver says: What was it like, Modera? The Radiant Song.
Archmage Modera says: It was warm. Comforting. Like coming home. Yet I couldn't tell you exactly why that was.
Archmage Ansirem Runeweaver says: Fascinating. And you still have no idea why it chose you? None of the other council members have yet to see it.
Archmage Modera says: I have no idea. Let's hope that Jaina's investigations prove fruitful. The sooner we understand this vision, the better.

I'm not saying "everyone" hears it, i say a lot of people. But that doesn't mean all of the council for example. It could be 1 in 10 people, which would be a lot.

[Timester]

I'm not saying "everyone" hears it, i say a lot of people. But that doesn't mean all of the council for example. It could be 1 in 10 people, which would be a lot.

We literally don't know how many people heard. We only know it were selected major characters.

[Enrif]

We literally don't know how many people heard. We only know it were selected major characters.

We know it is heard "all across azeroth" from Jaina. And "all across azeroth" would be more than just a few major characters

[Timester]

We know it is heard "all across azeroth" from Jaina. And "all across azeroth" would be more than just a few major characters

Yet again, that doesnt say how many people heard and who heard.

And yet again, the concept progressed. That is all.

[Makorus]

I always took "all across Azeroth" meant that it wasn't just cocentrated in Dalaran, or Eastern Kingdom, rather than the quantity of people.

[Enrif]

Yet again, that doesnt say how many people heard and who heard.

And yet again, the concept progressed. That is all.

progressed to what? we have no more information about the radiant song than we did in when we first interacted with it. It is still a total engima.

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I always took "all across Azeroth" meant that it wasn't just cocentrated in Dalaran, or Eastern Kingdom, rather than the quantity of people.

Since we only deal with major characters, we have no real opportunity to see if other people have heared the song

[Timester]

progressed to what? we have no more information about the radiant song than we did in when we first interacted with it. It is still a total engima.

Not anymore. The Ethereal novel explains what Radiant Song is.

[Raetary]

You know the answer is simple right? They had not thought of the Radiant Song back then so it did not exist.

Well yeah, that's obviously part of it, but Blizzard did give us a narrative reason as to why Azeroth is suddenly awake and active.

The Radiant Song started after Amirdrassil manifested onto Azeroth, strengthening the Worldsoul.
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Someth...action_leaders

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And arguably the Radiant Song was around in Legion as well, as Azeroth was directly communicating with Magni.

Just this time around she has the strength to reach out to more people.

[Enrif]

Not anymore. The Ethereal novel explains what Radiant Song is.

it doesn't. There is no more new information compared to what we heard sofar.

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11.2 teaser trailer

[doledippers]

it doesn't. There is no more new information compared to what we heard sofar.

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11.2 teaser trailer

hmm the player character in the cutscene is a demon hunter 3d spec confirmed /s