Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dvalin]

I doubt Eversong/Silvermoon are fully lost. I expect we have to defend it, though. Especially Quel'danas.

The phasing part tested with Beledar's phases does indeed come to mind. With occasional invasions/changes to the environment happening.

[Makorus]

Silvermoon is going to be a zone at launch a la Suramar, and turn into an actual city in 12.1 is my guess

[Enrif]

Silvermoon is going to be a zone at launch a la Suramar, and turn into an actual city in 12.1 is my guess

that would mean the gameplay is removed from silvermoon. I don't think blizzard would do that. They didn't do that for Suramar or for Ahz'kahet. It is more likely that Silvermoon is the 12.0 hub, with a dangerous district (think Boralus/Zuldazar) that has some void world quests now and then.

[The-Shan]

that would mean the gameplay is removed from silvermoon. I don't think blizzard would do that. They didn't do that for Suramar or for Ahz'kahet. It is more likely that Silvermoon is the 12.0 hub, with a dangerous district (think Boralus/Zuldazar) that has some void world quests now and then.

why would it matter? its going to be a separate phase/instance if they did that. Undercity/teldrassil were destroyed but you can still go back there

[Enrif]

btw, that they clearly show blood elf structures for that teaser image is just one more nail that it is just QT, and not a EK revamp.

[Alanar]

Silvermoon is going to be a zone at launch a la Suramar, and turn into an actual city in 12.1 is my guess

So how will this actually work tho? At the start of expansion horde suddenly lost silvermoon?

At this point, but its because of what people are saying here, it also could be that the updated Silvermoon will be available to both h and a from the very start. Just like that.
Seems easier to explain.

It just remains to be seen how the alliance enters the expansion. Do they get their own hub or are they just freely able to walk/do in Silvermoon much like dalaran?

[Merryck]

I have a gut feeling Lor'themar is super dead, end of the regency!

The promotional material makes it look like the void monsters are emerging from Silvermoon, like the city has fallen already.

Sure, let's kill / retire every single male character. Why can't it be Thalyssra who is super dead?

[Makabreska]

Iridikron will be our ally, mark my words.

Makes zero sense for him to be a boss unless he shows up in Midnight.

Big doubt on that. Dude radiates with cold, calculated hatred. And we already had one Incarnate joining us.

[Enrif]

why would it matter? its going to be a separate phase/instance, they arent gonna use whats already there lol. Undercity/teldrassil were destroyed but you can still go back there

Undercity/Teldrassil are from Cata, and got 4 expansions before they got removed. Meanwhile we have Cities like Suramar, Ahz'kahet, Boralus und Zuldazar, Undermine that didn't phased to be completely different. So, i don't see any indication that they would do that now. It is unlikely.

[The-Shan]

Sure, let's kill / retire every single male character. Why can't it be Thalyssra who is super dead?

We could add Liadrin to the pile too if that soothes your soul?

[Enrif]

So how will this actually work tho? At the start of expansion horde suddenly lost silvermoon?

At this point, but its because of what people are saying here, it also could be that the updated Silvermoon will be available to both h and a from the very start. Just like that.
Seems easier to explain.

It just remains to be seen how the alliance enters the expansion. Do they get their own hub or are they just freely able to walk/do in Silvermoon much like dalaran?

TBC Silvermoon will be still horde and on the outland server. Midnight Silvermoon will be 99.999% the neutral hub

[Makorus]

So how will this actually work tho? At the start of expansion horde suddenly lost silvermoon?

At this point, but its because of what people are saying here, it also could be that the updated Silvermoon will be available to both h and a from the very start. Just like that.
Seems easier to explain.

It just remains to be seen how the alliance enters the expansion. Do they get their own hub or are they just freely able to walk/do in Silvermoon much like dalaran?

Just like how Alliance lost Teldrassil at the start of BfA?

[Alanar]

TBC Silvermoon will be still horde and on the outland server. Midnight Silvermoon will be 99.999% the neutral hub

I get what you are saying, but how exactly is what I wonder. Will it be just available from the start aka neutral or seperate hub within or outside. We dont know that exactly.

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Just like how Alliance lost Teldrassil at the start of BfA?

I dont see that exact scenario happening with Silvermoon tho.

[Makorus]

that would mean the gameplay is removed from silvermoon. I don't think blizzard would do that. They didn't do that for Suramar or for Ahz'kahet. It is more likely that Silvermoon is the 12.0 hub, with a dangerous district (think Boralus/Zuldazar) that has some void world quests now and then.

Story-wise and gameplay-wise, Silvermoon is going to be an actual city. There will be a feature a la phasediving that puts you into "Void Silvermoon" for old content like WQs and achievements and quests and what not.

[Enrif]

I get what you are saying, but how exactly is what I wonder. Will it be just available from the start aka neutral or seperate hub within or outside. We dont know that exactly.

i image a similar intro scenario we had for Dornagal/Oribos/Zuldrak/Boralus. Start quests, get there, visit the important locations (inn, bank, auction house).

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Story-wise and gameplay-wise, Silvermoon is going to be an actual city. There will be a feature a la phasediving that puts you into "Void Silvermoon" for old content like WQs and achievements and quests and what not.

right, the new thing in 11.2, the phasediving... okay, that could actually open up the whole map to be double dips. Voiddiving?

[Makorus]

I just think having Silvermoon somehow be unscathed is... weird. And Suramar was incredibly well-received, to the point where they can kind of ape off the complete storyline and zone progression to the point where it will be completely reclaimed in 12.1 and be a neutral hub. You can even add tiny bits of progression in the reclamation in 12.0.5 and 12.0.7.

Have the staging grounds be Gilneas and Undercity at the start.

[Joshuaj]

Would be weird for them to remake Silvermoon just to destroy it ngl...

[Dvalin]

I just hope the Blood Elves aren't the next Elven race to be 'genocided' for the plot, and that Silvermoon isn't going the Dalaran route.

@Makorus The Void consumes, though. Nothing would be left of Silvermoon if they invaded all of it.

[Wangming]

I mean, Iridikron was never against us though. It was us against him, not him against us.

Oh for fucks sake.
Poor misunderstood baby just wanted to kill all the Dragonflights and we didn't let him. How terribly evil of us.

Sure he was never against the players specifically because we barely count as characters. Besides, he never gave the impression of seeing people as people. Those inhabiting Azeroth are just set pieces, tools for him to use in his single minded vendetta against the Titans.

[Makabreska]

Oh for fucks sake.
Poor misunderstood baby just wanted to kill all the Dragonflights and we didn't let him. How terribly evil of us.

Sure he was never against the players specifically because we barely count as characters. Besides, he never gave the impression of seeing people as people. Those inhabiting Azeroth are just set pieces, tools for him to use in his single minded vendetta against the Titans.

Not to mention that lots of playable races are of Titan origin.

Also, we saw in Incarnate future event that Azeroth would be simply fked by elements if Incarnates win. So ye, he is very much against us.