Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

That "croc" mount and the snake give me troll vibes.

Well, they explicitly mention Tol'vir in the description and is connected to Un'goro. So no Amani references at all.

[Wangming]

I just think having Silvermoon somehow be unscathed is... weird. And Suramar was incredibly well-received, to the point where they can kind of ape off the complete storyline and zone progression to the point where it will be completely reclaimed in 12.1 and be a neutral hub. You can even add tiny bits of progression in the reclamation in 12.0.5 and 12.0.7.

Have the staging grounds be Gilneas and Undercity at the start.

For sure Silvermoon won't or rather can't come out of a void incursion this big without some scars. But it also doesn't mean it necessarily has to be a crater.
And the city destroyed to add tension has been over done.

[Timester]

I just hope the Blood Elves aren't the next Elven race to be 'genocided' for the plot, and that Silvermoon isn't going the Dalaran route.

The next? They were the first. Canonically there should be only around hundreds of Blood Elves and 10 Void Elves.

[Makorus]

Oh for fucks sake.
Poor misunderstood baby just wanted to kill all the Dragonflights and we didn't let him. How terribly evil of us.

Sure he was never against the players specifically because we barely count as characters. Besides, he never gave the impression of seeing people as people. Those inhabiting Azeroth are just set pieces, tools for him to use in his single minded vendetta against the Titans.

??? He never wanted to kill the Dragonflights either. He told Fyrakk off for wanting to seek vengeance and he said Raszageth was stupid for picking a fight.

Everything he has done was going towards his goal of not letting have the Titans have the World Soul, and I just think that has to be a deliberate move by Blizzard. Arguably the only questionable thing was letting Fyrakk get so close to destroying Amirdrassil.

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For sure Silvermoon won't or rather can't come out of a void incursion this big without some scars. But it also doesn't mean it necessarily has to be a crater.
And the city destroyed to add tension has been over done.

Oh, I don't want it destroyed. I just want it to be controlled by Void forces in 12.0, like Suramar was (and still is), until we take it back as a neutral hub in 12.1.

I just think city-zones are neat.

[Wangming]

Not to mention that lots of playable races are of Titan origin.

It would be easier to list the races that aren't titan creations.

[huth]

Oh for fucks sake.
Poor misunderstood baby just wanted to kill all the Dragonflights and we didn't let him. How terribly evil of us.

Sure he was never against the players specifically because we barely count as characters. Besides, he never gave the impression of seeing people as people. Those inhabiting Azeroth are just set pieces, tools for him to use in his single minded vendetta against the Titans.

He certainly wasn't on our side, though. He very clearly didn't care what happens to us.

[Dvalin]

The next? They were the first. Canonically there should be only around hundreds of Blood Elves and 10 Void Elves.

Of course, but you get what I mean, after the Burning of Teldrassil happened to the Alliance during WoW's timeframe.

[Timester]

It would be easier to list the races that aren't titan creations.

The Draenei, Trolls and Tauren. Maybe??

[Fiercelord]

BTW the Gamescom art maybe teases the pre-patch event.
We could be in phased (old) Silvermoon City killing Voidwalkers with a nice voidy skybox.

[Houle]

The worst is, that he did have a good, unique voice with personality... for a whole 50 seconds, in the Azshara Warbringer short.

As entertaining it was to watch, N'zoth going from creepy, teasing whispers to deep rumbling and yelling almost killed it for me.

To be fair, it was pretty much on brand: since Cata, N'zoth got continually downgraded. From the strongest OG, who 1v2'd C'thun and Yogg and whom the titans couldnt fully defeat, to the weakest of them, who got trolled by Xal and had to call the others for help.

[Wangming]

I just think city-zones are neat.

Finally some thing we can agree in. Fuck, I could even imagine a city as it's own "expansion continent" wih different districts being different zones.

[Makabreska]

Everything he has done was going towards his goal of not letting have the Titans have the World Soul, and I just think that has to be a deliberate move by Blizzard. Arguably the only questionable thing was letting Fyrakk get so close to destroying Amirdrassil.

Again, The Primalist Future.

He may not have a direct beef with us, but his plans would fk us hard. And he didn't care.

[Wangming]

The Draenei, Trolls and Tauren. Maybe??

Orcs as well. Although Orcs and Draenei are cheating cause they aren't of this planet.
And Pandaren.

[Timester]

Oh, I have a special boss place for Iridikron, him being one of the first converted by the Titans when they come back just, in spite of him. A Titan-related boss.

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Orcs as well. Although Orcs and Draenei are cheating cause they aren't of this planet.
And Pandaren.

Not even the orcs, they are Titan Aggramar-forged descendent.

[Merryck]

It wouldn't be crazy if the Draenei were creations of the Titans considering their affinity for the arcane and the fact that they had a Worldsoul as well as a Titan installation on their planet. Though Sargeras might’ve built the installation relatively recently. Then again it did have those female Titan constructs that I've always assumed Eonar was responsible for ...

[Wangming]

Not even the orcs, they are Titan Aggramar-forged descendent.

Whoops. Well, bad news for them.


Honestly the TLL ending starts to sound like the neutral run for VtMB. Azeroth awakening would likely destroy the planet. iridikron winning would lead to the bad future.
So, let's beat everyone, cosmos be damned.

[arandomuser]

in the war within opening cinematic we had the sargeras sword and thrall saying it was aimed at something, we ever gonna get a conclusion to whats going on there?

[Samin]

Orcs as well. Although Orcs and Draenei are cheating cause they aren't of this planet.
And Pandaren.

Orcs are definitely Titan creations. They ultimately descent from Grond who was greated by Aggramar - maybe a few more steps but still indirect Titan creations like dwarves and humans.

[Makabreska]

in the war within opening cinematic we had the sargeras sword and thrall saying it was aimed at something, we ever gonna get a conclusion to whats going on there?

I mean, we always knew what he was aiming at. He was trying to kill our World Soul to prevent it from falling into Void. This part will be resolved most likely in TLT.

[Makorus]

I mean, we always knew what he was aiming at. He was trying to kill our World Soul to prevent it from falling into Void. This part will be resolved most likely in TLT.

Which doesn't really make sense though. Surely he could have stabbed anything.

Why was he aiming specifically at that point?

The Coreway isn't even that close to Silithus