Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

i hope we get a borrowed power system in midnight, i think shadowlands really soured people due to the hard lock in + alt unfriendliness, i would like to see them try something in the post warband world, they cant just add more talents infinitely and re doing them every so many expansions is just borrowed power with extra steps

Borrowed power didn't leave, they just left if off the expansion features list so people don't complain. The delve belt? The Siren's isle ring? The return of horrific visions. We're drowning in borrowed power.

[Houle]

*Cannon fires at Xal'atath*

*It goes through Xal'atath like nothing*

The Goblins, realizing you literally can't hit a fucking Void Lord like that, as they're basically non existence itself:

Xal isnt one yet. Her plan is presumably to become one. Its possible she doesnt succeed.

[Timester]

Xal isnt one yet. Her plan is presumably to become one. Its possible she doesnt succeed.

Well, it depends on what happens in 11.2 post-raid quests.

[Houle]

Well, it depends on what happens in 11.2 post-raid quests.

Exactly, thats the point.

[PT2020]

I personally want most of the Northern EK to be part of the continent.

I imagine Quel'thalas as 1 zone, Lordaeron as another, Arathi highlands and Northeron merged into a dwarven/troll zone, and An entire expanded Zulaman zone. Also there are underwater Naga areas all around the continent and Naga on the beaches.

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Btw I have been away for months. Any juicy Midnight leaks in the past few months?

What I'd love (excuse the spelling mistakes):

[doledippers]

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/arti...eon-of-k-aresh

new article, goes over the locales in karesh. nothing rly new i dont think

[Lady Atia]

What I'd love (excuse the spelling mistakes):

No. Please stop putting Lordaeron into the Blood Elf Expansion. It can have its own down the line, QT alone is enough for the launch content.

No clue why people want to waste expansions worth of content, it seems like everyone just forgot how shit BfA was lol.

[micwini]

Am I the only one who thinks its going to be something as simple as:

12.0
Eversong Woods
Ghostlands
Silvermoon City
Zul'aman

12.1 Northeron

12.2 Isle of Quel'Danas

You can switch em around, but basically the thing being it is just the zones in the quelthalas area, but upscaled

[Timester]

Am I the only one who thinks its going to be something as simple as:

12.0
Eversong Woods
Ghostlands
Silvermoon City
Zul'aman

12.1 Northeron

12.2 Isle of Quel'Danas

You can switch em around, but basically the thing being it is just the zones in the quelthalas area, but upscaled

12.2 will be a Titan-related raid. No way the Void xpac --> Titan xpac - both cosmic forces - will be only focused on North Lordaeron.

[Cheezits]

Am I the only one who thinks its going to be something as simple as:

12.0
Eversong Woods
Ghostlands
Silvermoon City
Zul'aman

12.1 Northeron

12.2 Isle of Quel'Danas

You can switch em around, but basically the thing being it is just the zones in the quelthalas area, but upscaled

The Draenei heritage quest pretty strongly implied at least one of the patches, if not a launch zone, will be Draenei related. As they teased the flying city and Broken right at the end of Dragonflight and they don't fit in the saga otherwise.

[Lady Atia]

The Draenei heritage quest pretty strongly implied at least one of the patches, if not a launch zone, will be Draenei related. As they teased the flying city and Broken right at the end of Dragonflight and they don't fit in the saga otherwise.

Now that you say it ..... maybe we get Broken and Amani as Allied Races with launch. Or Amani for launch and Broken for 12.1 if we get the Draenei isles there. Just hoping their girls are kinda cute and not as ugly as f.e. Kul Tirans.

Ethereals with the next patch (to go with the glamour being available 8 weeks after the raid release). While I'm happy cosplaying my void elf as an ethereal I guess I can life with that even though I'm not sure if I like their female models all that much.

High elves should be customizations for blood and voidelfs tbh. It would be weird if f.e. the best way to cosplay Alleria was to not play a void elf. Funny enough, the Arathi customizations are imo on par to a new allied race so we kinda got two allied races with TWW anyways.

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Oh, also, what are we thinking about more body type options? Besides revamping transmog (with dyes aswell as the removal of armour types for transmog); I think that's the biggest change you can bring into WoW. It will prolly be weird at first because besides humans (who only got the different body types with BfA mind you) we are trained to connect only two outlines with each race so it could risk to end up a bit jarring at first. But on the other hand, its also something that could be added as evergreen updates I guess.

[Cheezits]

Now that you say it ..... maybe we get Broken and Amani as Allied Races with launch. Or Amani for launch and Broken for 12.1 if we get the Draenei isles there. Just hoping their girls are kinda cute and not as ugly as f.e. Kul Tirans.

Ethereals 11.2.5 as a preorder unlock neutral race, Amani and Broken available at 12.0 launch as ARs, for one per faction. I do not see either of them going neutral for many reasons.

High Elf is a toss up and I think they will make them very much their own thing via Vereesa and the Silver Covenant, as the two have been pretty much forbidden from TWW for whatever reason. But whether they just add a regular Thalassian option to Alliance, or a neutral one, or do some kind of racial revamp that includes them, no idea.

[Ersula]

12.2 will be a Titan-related raid. No way the Void xpac --> Titan xpac - both cosmic forces - will be only focused on North Lordaeron.

More realistically:
12.0 Troll raid where some trolls have sided with the void
12.1 An undead themed raid in Lordaeron - A big chunk of Warcraft iconography is Undead & its been a while since we had real undead themed content (Hope to see the Arathi here, getting a big battle of mindless light undead versus mindless void undead)
12.2 Void Sunwell Raid (While the Light will be omnipresent in the battle against the void I expect a lot of Draenei content here, at least partially as an homage to the original Sunwell raid)

Then in TLT, Iridikron's plans come to fruition

13.0 Tracking down Iridikron & his new followers in Northrend
13.1 The Red Dawn tries to take back the Scarlets former bulwarks while the Horde & Alliance are distracted.
13.2 The Worldcore is finally found

So Trolls, Undead, Void, Dragon, Red Dawn, Titan themes for two very well rounded expansions.

[Timester]

More realistically:
12.0 Troll raid where some trolls have sided with the void
12.1 An undead themed raid in Lordaeron - A big chunk of Warcraft iconography is Undead & its been a while since we had real undead themed content (Hope to see the Arathi here, getting a big battle of mindless light undead versus mindless void undead)
12.2 Void Sunwell Raid (While the Light will be omnipresent in the battle against the void I expect a lot of Draenei content here, at least partially as an homage to the original Sunwell raid)

Then in TLT, Iridikron's plans come to fruition

13.0 Tracking down Iridikron & his new followers in Northrend
13.1 The Red Dawn tries to take back the Scarlets former bulwarks while the Horde & Alliance are distracted.
13.2 The Worldcore is finally found

So Trolls, Undead, Void, Dragon, Red Dawn, Titan themes for two very well rounded expansions.

That's completely off regarding what we already know about The Last Titan, which the Titans, Sargeras and Illidan will be back by 13.0.

12.2 being a Titan raid is the same back to back as 11.2 being a Void raid.

[Capivara]

i don't know if it would be the first one or 12.2 but i would love a raid where quel'talas is invaded and we try to defend. almost like zul'dazar but just a gigantic battlefield and we dealing with hordes of enemies.

[Lady Atia]

i don't know if it would be the first one or 12.2 but i would love a raid where quel'talas is invaded and we try to defend. almost like zul'dazar but just a gigantic battlefield and we dealing with hordes of enemies.

Tbf, I would expect some kind of "just use the zone as raid so we can cut on artists time" raid. They did it with Dazaralor, and recently with Liberation of Undermine.

And honestly, that is still better than "here is a raid but not a zone even though you wanted a zone and we know it" raids like Emerald Nightmare or Nyalotha, or even Eternal Palace (no one wanted fucking ruined outskirts of Nazjatar .... we wanted a big cool sunken Elfen City with a big Naga Palace like Suramar. But than again, Nazjatar would have been big enough to be its own Expansion anyways).

[Ersula]

That's completely off regarding what we already know about The Last Titan, which the Titans, Sargeras and Illidan will be back by 13.0.

12.2 being a Titan raid is the same back to back as 11.2 being a Void raid.

We don't know that. 11.2 is an Ethereal Raid. The entire Worldsoul saga is void themed. You're saying that like the final battle against the void is going to be in 12.0, which it definitely won't be.

For the same reason 8.3 took us from old gods, to a cinematic of Sylvanas battling the Lich King, to a season about fighting a vampire in a big castle. Going from K'aresh, to the void invading Silvermoonm, to the Amani is more in line with Blizzard's style.

[Cheezits]

Very late on this, but- what are the chances something goes on the map to the left of all the islands?



Ethereal starting zone, perhaps? Patch island?

[Chickat]

What I'd love (excuse the spelling mistakes):

You wouldn't include Arathi?

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Very late on this, but- what are the chances something goes on the map to the left of all the islands?



Ethereal starting zone, perhaps? Patch island?

Ethereal starting zone would actually make a lot of sense imo.

[Lady Atia]

Ethereals 11.2.5 as a preorder unlock neutral race, Amani and Broken available at 12.0 launch as ARs, for one per faction. I do not see either of them going neutral for many reasons.

High Elf is a toss up and I think they will make them very much their own thing via Vereesa and the Silver Covenant, as the two have been pretty much forbidden from TWW for whatever reason. But whether they just add a regular Thalassian option to Alliance, or a neutral one, or do some kind of racial revamp that includes them, no idea.

Yeah. Also, maybe they throw a curveball and we actually get a Rootlands Zone as the finale for Midnight - maybe while we were busy reclaiming the Sunwell and defending Exodar Xal ends up in the Coreway and corrupts Azeroth, which forces the Titans to return. That could than give us finally the Harronir as another allied race aswell.

(I'm still thinking there must be a reason why Earthen are allied and not a normal race .... like, allied races only realy make sense if we get more than one per expansion imo)

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You wouldn't include Arathi?

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Ethereal starting zone would actually make a lot of sense imo.

Earthen had a small starting zone (unlike other allied races) so I can see it. Could also use the space for both - the starting area aswell as a small patch island like timeless isle?