Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Harpymeat]

I've seen you spam this in other threads too, and my question is, why?
The game has a million problems when it comes to UI, new player experience and all that, and you're fixated on this garbage.
Why? Just keep that shit in TRP3, stop forcing this nonsense at a time when there is no appetite for this shit.
I don't want to see hunched, muscular orc dudes run around with girl voices and she/her pronouns, why do you? Perhaps it's time for some self reflection.
This isn'tt a single player game where your actions or behavior doesn't impact others. And nobody wants to deal with this shit.

Gayest crybaby on this forum. Big feat

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Honest question, could Azshara somehow return to her normal form of being an elf instead of a naga? Have something similar ever happen in the lore?

Closest I would think would be Cho'gall who was able to some what revert back after He was like this fully hopped up on C'thun's power.

[Etmir]

Closest I would think would be Cho'gall who was able to some what revert back after He was like this fully hopped up on C'thun's power.

This looks very strange.

[Limayria]

The evidence seems to point to it being ranged so far, but maybe not the kind of ranged you want.

The Void DH in the council boss actually appears to be a full caster. Given that the other two enemies in that boss fight are each copied directly from the existing specs, odds are good that he's meant to resemble the upcoming spec, which points to DHs getting a caster spec. But we'll see, maybe it'll turn out to be a misleading tease in the end.

Adding a new void spec and making it a caster would be literally the worst possible implementation imagaineable so I'm pretty hopeful they're gonna side step that considering the one other void class that is playable is... A void based caster DPS

I think ky'vessa might end up training the void dhs and we'll get void elf and ethereal demon hunters in midnight after seeing her get mentioned in the audio drama

[Joshuaj]

Every day, I'm glad Cho'galls defeat was retconned into us beating him. Me'dan is a simpleton.

[Makorus]

I am finally doing on the Lorewalking on Live after doing them on the PTR first and it's absolutely crazy how relevant both the Xalatath and the Ethereal ones are for 11.2.

But then you have the Arthas one, which really makes you think that maybe the Scourge are actually going to be a semi-big focus in Midnight, which would fit with the whole "The Void hates Death" situation.

[Joshuaj]

Like, literally...

Remember when he was called the Gary Stu OP WoW character? Lmaoooo

Yeah nah, we have far surpassed him on the bullshit scale.

[Makorus]

Every day, I'm glad Cho'galls defeat was retconned into us beating him. Me'dan is a simpleton.

Eh, I still think there are worse characters than Med'an.

Broxigar and Rhonin are just as bad Mary Sues. But that's because Knaak is a hack.

[Joshuaj]

I am finally doing on the Lorewalking on Live after doing them on the PTR first and it's absolutely crazy how relevant both the Xalatath and the Ethereal ones are for 11.2.

But then you have the Arthas one, which really makes you think that maybe the Scourge are actually going to be a semi-big focus in Midnight, which would fit with the whole "The Void hates Death" situation.

Pretty sure the Arthas one was done VIA fanservice.

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Eh, I still think there are worse characters than Med'an.

Broxigar and Rhonin are just as bad Mary Sues. But that's because Knaak is a hack.

"Broxigar is the only mortal to wound Sargeras"

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I really do think we're gonna fight the Dark Titan in that expac. Heck, I think we're gonna fight all the Titans that expac lol

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Broxigar wounding Sargeras ain't even that impressive anymore. The Champions were empowered by the Titans to face Argus, we wielded the power of the First Ones (both physically and mentally) and Azeroth to stop the Jailer, and we're battling a Void Lord's true form for the first time. Heck, Midnight might have us hang with a Light Lord for the first time, idfk.

At this rate, I'd be shocked if TLT didn't have us battle the Titans lmao.

Suffice to say, we've been through more than enough to make whatever Me'dan did feel...well...lame in comparison. Like, extremely lame.

[Makorus]

Pretty sure the Arthas one was done VIA fanservice.

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"Broxigar is the only mortal to wound Sargeras"

The Last Titan:

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I really do think we're gonna fight the Dark Titan in that expac. Heck, I think we're gonna fight all the Titans that expac lol

Eh, I don't think we will fight all of them. Eonar is definitely gonna be our ally seeing how she already pissed of Amanthul before.
Khaz'goroth is gonna be sniped by Iridikron because he is kind of expendable and also symbolism.
Golganneth seems expendable enough to be a raid encounter early on.

I don't know about Aggramar. Do we really need another fight? Maybe a Council Fight of Aggramar and Norgannon?

Having a Sargeras fight would be cool, but you might get Titan fight fatigue and we will definitely fight Aman'thul as well.

[whoisqnx]

I don't know about Aggramar. Do we really need another fight? Maybe a Council Fight of Aggramar and Norgannon?

Considering Aggramar and Sargeras were pals before they fought eachother i wouldn't be surprised if Aggramar decides to side with us and Sargeras again (i have a feeling that Sargeras will turn out to be 'good')
Altough Aggramar will try to side with us to help againts Amanthul i think Amanthul himself will kill him.
A War Within the Pantheon itself.

[Makorus]

Hmmm, did we ever find out where Xolartios is in 11.2?



He does have a NPC that was added in 11.2

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/npc=231710/xolartios

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Considering Aggramar and Sargeras were pals before they fought eachother i wouldn't be surprised if Aggramar decides to side with us and Sargeras again (i have a feeling that Sargeras will turn out to be 'good')
Altough Aggramar will try to side with us to help againts Amanthul i think Amanthul himself will kill him.
A War Within the Pantheon itself.

Oh, I definitely think that Sargeras will be the Last Titan.

[Golden Yak]

Here's my ponderings on how Last Titan will unfold:

-Season 1-
Base campaign story. Ulduar goes into lockdown and Northrend is all shaken up by machines and things in the underworld turning on.
We head to Northrend to find out what's going on - I'm betting Wyrmrest Temple or something nearby will be the main city, so the dragons can show up.
Iridikron and his forces strike to remove us before the Titans arrive. He's the main baddie of the campaign.
Campaign climax is at Storm Peaks, where the Seat of the Pantheon shows up with the Titans.
Iridikron is poised to strike, but the Pantheon reveals that they have Sargeras on their side now, ensorcelled as an attack dog, which upsets Iridikron's plans.
Sargeras spanks everyone and sends them packing. Pantheon announces that they're going to Re-Originate the planet and kill everything.
The raid is us dealing with Iridikron, and we end up being forced to admit he was right about the Titans, and we make an alliance to take them on together.

-Season 2-
Figuring out who's on our side and who's against us in the Pantheon. We also need to find Illidan and learn exactly what happened with him, Sargeras, and the Pantheon.
The raid is on the Seat of the Pantheon. Iridikron makes his big move and takes the Pantheon out, maybe even sacrificing himself to do it, because even though he's evil he still cares about Azeroth or whatever. But Sargeras is still targeting Azeroth's Worldsoul.

-Season 3-
We deal with Sargeras. He is the Last Titan.
I don't expect Sargeras to be killed. I think he'll retreat from Azeroth to rebuild the Burning Legion.

I also expect overall there to be some revelation that the Pantheon was serving the designs of the First Ones, and so Sargeras will aim to take them out as the architects of everything that's going wrong with the universe. We might even see Illidan join him, in exchange for keeping the Legion away from Azeroth.

These are the main beats that keep popping up in my mind when I think about what might happen.

[Merryck]

I'm predicting Golganneth will be "sniped." The allied Titans will be Eonar, Khaz'goroth, and Aggramar. And the enemy Titans will be Aman'thul, Norgannon, and an Ordered Sargeras. Aman'thul will be "the Last Titan" after we chase him to the end of time. This would be a lot more sensible than some God of War pantheocide slop. The trope of "all the gods are evil and must die" is so fucking tired at this point. It's in every Anime and has permeated into western popculture over the last couple decades.

[Makorus]

I'm predicting Golganneth will be "sniped." The allied Titans will be Eonar, Khaz'goroth, and Aggramar. And the enemy Titans will be Aman'thul, Norgannon, and an Ordered Sargeras. Aman'thul will be "the Last Titan" after we chase him to the end of time. This would be a lot more sensible than some God of War pantheocide slop. The trope of "all the gods are evil and must die" is so fucking tired at this point. It's in every Anime and has permeated into western popculture over the last couple decades.

There is no way in hell that Aman'thul will not be dealt with. Even if there are no other Titan casualties, Aman'thul is definitely going.

[Wyrt]

I'm predicting Golganneth will be "sniped." The allied Titans will be Eonar, Khaz'goroth, and Aggramar. And the enemy Titans will be Aman'thul, Norgannon, and an Ordered Sargeras. Aman'thul will be "the Last Titan" after we chase him to the end of time. This would be a lot more sensible than some God of War pantheocide slop. The trope of "all the gods are evil and must die" is so fucking tired at this point. It's in every Anime and has permeated into western popculture over the last couple decades.

But killing gods is fun.

[Merryck]

There is no way in hell that Aman'thul will not be dealt with. Even if there are no other Titan casualties, Aman'thul is definitely going.

I obviously implied he would be dealt with when I said we'd "chase him to the end of time." Last boss of the last raid. And he'd be "the last Titan" in existence at the end of time. The first AND last Titan.

[Limayria]

I'm predicting Golganneth will be "sniped." The allied Titans will be Eonar, Khaz'goroth, and Aggramar. And the enemy Titans will be Aman'thul, Norgannon, and an Ordered Sargeras. Aman'thul will be "the Last Titan" after we chase him to the end of time. This would be a lot more sensible than some God of War pantheocide slop. The trope of "all the gods are evil and must die" is so fucking tired at this point. It's in every Anime and has permeated into western popculture over the last couple decades.

man i wonder if theres a reason why art has become increasingly anti religion in recent years

its a real mystery huh

[Merryck]

Try to imagine a rematch between Aggramar and an Ordered Sargeras. Then you'll see the symmetry and beauty and Order of my design.

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And in my scenario, the only Titans left would be Khaz'goroth and Eonar (let's say Aggramar and Sargeras [second last boss of the last tier] both die during their rematch cinematic). Norgannon can be the final boss of the second tier. Maybe we go stop him in his cosmic workshop or w/e. Hell, Khaz'goroth can have a noble self-sacrifice at some point leaving only your girlboss Eonar. That way, all the skydaddies will be dead and the World (of Warcraft) will be even emptier.

[Dracullus]

I am finally doing on the Lorewalking on Live after doing them on the PTR first and it's absolutely crazy how relevant both the Xalatath and the Ethereal ones are for 11.2.

But then you have the Arthas one, which really makes you think that maybe the Scourge are actually going to be a semi-big focus in Midnight, which would fit with the whole "The Void hates Death" situation.

Nah, they announced like 38 of these stories planned, they just pushed 2 relevant to narrative and 1 fan favourite first.