Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[doledippers]

we went the entire 11.2 ptr without a single change or tune for havoc , better be a new spec

[13last]

She was in the palace to kill ansurek and she told us she cannot leave witnesses behind. Other than that she has no motivation to kill us unless someone pays her good money to do so. She's a bounty hunter.
In 11.2 she invites us into her hideout to fight her but without dialogue or quest text its hard to guess where she really stands. She's still a void ethereal after all.

I only listened to the whispers of karesh once, but was there a clear reason she sided with Salhadar and betrayed Locust Walker?
Personally to me it sounds like Xal'atath tricked Locust Walker and Ky'veza sided against him for personal gain but I could be very wrong.

[Makorus]

She was in the palace to kill ansurek and she told us she cannot leave witnesses behind. Other than that she has no motivation to kill us unless someone pays her good money to do so. She's a bounty hunter.
In 11.2 she invites us into her hideout to fight her but without dialogue or quest text its hard to guess where she really stands. She's still a void ethereal after all.

She wants to kill Brann because someone put a bounty out on him, so once again, nothing personal, really.

[Marlamin]

There was a notable hotfix on PTR yesterday that while not containing any actual data, did tie 3 encryption key IDs together as being related to each other and possibly releasing at the same time.

These keys:
7960: Contains 3 mounts and 11 spells (some of which with models/effects too, maybe a Hearthstone too?)
7961: Contains 2 battle pets
7962: Contains 2 transmog sets

Now this is very much speculation, but unless this is some trading post or store thing these very well could be the Midnight pre-order things.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

add to that list Vrykul (just big humans).

I've been indifferent to the vrykul until now, but the earthen pleasantly surprised me, and now I want them too. Especially if we get the titan-forged versions. An earth or iron vrykul would be so badass (and give me my iron dwarf too!)

By the way, I'm wondering if the Northrend earthen will be different from those in Khaz Algar. To be honest, I wouldn't mind; I think their design is cool. But there should be stone and iron hair and beard options.

And also... the mechagnomes? What are we going to call them since we already have mechagnomes that aren't true mechagnomes? I really think it was a stupid name (cyborgnomes was more appropriate). Mechagon mechagnomes? Ulduar mechagnomes? How are we going to differentiate them?

[Lady Atia]

There was a notable hotfix on PTR yesterday that while not containing any actual data, did tie 3 encryption key IDs together as being related to each other and possibly releasing at the same time.

These keys:
7960: Contains 3 mounts and 11 spells (some of which with models/effects too, maybe a Hearthstone too?)
7961: Contains 2 battle pets
7962: Contains 2 transmog sets

Now this is very much speculation, but unless this is some trading post or store thing these very well could be the Midnight pre-order things.

How was the TWW stormrider saved? Like, was it 4 different mounts, or one mount with different entries?

[Makorus]

The 11 spells thing is interesting. I'd imagine 1 of them is the Hearthstone, obviously, and probably another toy or two.

However, that's still a lot.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

There was a notable hotfix on PTR yesterday that while not containing any actual data, did tie 3 encryption key IDs together as being related to each other and possibly releasing at the same time.

These keys:
7960: Contains 3 mounts and 11 spells (some of which with models/effects too, maybe a Hearthstone too?)
7961: Contains 2 battle pets
7962: Contains 2 transmog sets

Now this is very much speculation, but unless this is some trading post or store thing these very well could be the Midnight pre-order things.

OMG high elf and amani theme ? And 3 mounts? wtf

[Marlamin]

How was the TWW stormrider saved? Like, was it 4 different mounts, or one mount with different entries?

That was all under a single encryption key and counted as a character model too, so not a 'normal' mount as it was customizable. They started splitting things up a bit more to make it harder to tie stuff together.

The 11 spells thing is interesting. I'd imagine 1 of them is the Hearthstone, obviously, and probably another toy or two.

However, that's still a lot.

There could be a bunch of spells for grants as well as learning the mounts and stuff as well but it is definitely more than the normal amount of spells for encrypted mounts.

[Makorus]

How was the TWW stormrider saved? Like, was it 4 different mounts, or one mount with different entries?

Eh, I don't think Blizzard is really going back to customisable mounts anymore outside of Delve rewards.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

What if it were three dynamic ground mounts? Given that we already have a dynamic ground mount usable in the game, and that it's no longer a completely new system as such...

A bit like the four dragon mounts in DF, but as a pre-order bonus?

[Raetary]

Well, we got 3 main QT elf groups.

A mount recolor/remodel for each would be fitting.

[Lady Atia]

OMG high elf and amani theme ? And 3 mounts? wtf

Or voidelf and bloodelf. One red/gold set and one purple/gold or blue/silver if it's high elven.

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That was all under a single encryption key and counted as a character model too, so not a 'normal' mount as it was customizable. They started splitting things up a bit more to make it harder to tie stuff together.



There could be a bunch of spells for grants as well as learning the mounts and stuff as well but it is definitely more than the normal amount of spells for encrypted mounts.

So, no customizable mount this time but maybe 3 recolours? Like if it's a phoenix we could get orange, purple and red?

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Eh, I don't think Blizzard is really going back to customisable mounts anymore outside of Delve rewards.

They should though, and I expect them to give us a bunch for dynamic ground mounts.

Also, Gladiatormounts should be customizable but start at lower rating, with 2400 giving you a hat for it as final reward.

[Marlamin]

Or voidelf and bloodelf. One red/gold set and one purple/gold or blue/silver if it's high elven.

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So, no customizable mount this time but maybe 3 recolours? Like if it's a phoenix we could get orange, purple and red?

Maybe, but interestingly enough even though there are 3 mounts there are only 2 creature displays encrypted under the mount key.

[Magistrate]

Also, Gladiatormounts should be customizable but start at lower rating, with 2400 giving you a hat for it as final reward.

"Your fez, milord."

[Lady Atia]

Maybe, but interestingly enough even though there are 3 mounts there are only 2 creature displays encrypted under the mount key.

So, maybe two different mounts with one having two recolours than?

Maybe 2 for the CE, and one for the pre-order like they did with the pet in Dragonflight?

[Magistrate]

Maybe, but interestingly enough even though there are 3 mounts there are only 2 creature displays encrypted under the mount key.

Maybe one is dynamic and has changing visuals like that... Was it a lion? And then that sun/moon armor? And the warden set?

[Lady Atia]

"Your fez, milord."

Well tbf, it would be a fun nod to older gladiator mounts which basically either had a hat or no hat compared to their cousins ^^ (Netherdrakes, Frostwyrms etc)

[Marlamin]

So, maybe two different mounts with one having two recolours than?

Maybe 2 for the CE, and one for the pre-order like they did with the pet in Dragonflight?

Possibly, not really easy to confirm right now.

[Enrif]

I've been indifferent to the vrykul until now, but the earthen pleasantly surprised me, and now I want them too. Especially if we get the titan-forged versions. An earth or iron vrykul would be so badass (and give me my iron dwarf too!)

By the way, I'm wondering if the Northrend earthen will be different from those in Khaz Algar. To be honest, I wouldn't mind; I think their design is cool. But there should be stone and iron hair and beard options.

And also... the mechagnomes? What are we going to call them since we already have mechagnomes that aren't true mechagnomes? I really think it was a stupid name (cyborgnomes was more appropriate). Mechagon mechagnomes? Ulduar mechagnomes? How are we going to differentiate them?

i'm neutral on vrykul. They would have been cool back in Wrath or Legion, but these days i have given up hope we get them, TLT is the last chance most likely.

I think the earthen of Northrend will use the same models as the earthen of Khaz Algar. But i think they will be socialy (and clothing wise) different. Much closer to the titans is likely.

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Maybe one is dynamic and has changing visuals like that... Was it a lion? And then that sun/moon armor? And the warden set?

we had that trading post mount and the warden set that change appearance based on time of day, and a more recent store set that has a nighttime color and a daytime color.


hmm.. makes you wonder if it is a hint for midnight? A more pronounced day/night cycle? Sun and Moon themes are also quite elf centric. will be long three weeks until gamescom.