Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

Maybe 11/13 classes get something? Unsure who would get left out.

[Wyrt]

Maybe 11/13 classes get something? Unsure who would get left out.

If it's shadow visuals for classes then probably priest and warlock as they already have shadow focused specs.

[Marlamin]

Maybe they're introducing a new Glyph system that works like collections with it's special window.

11 spells could be to select Void options as a DH from Midnight pre-order and they're allowing Void Elves to become DHs (hinted from K'aresh questline)

And available during Legion Remix. Oh I want the fiery purple eyes and wings...

Spells are used for many things, but in the context of that encryption key they probably aren't class abilities or anything like that. Stuff like a Hearthstone as well as some mount related spells could cover most of them already.

[Nightshade711]

Add an ethereal and an Amani riding a holy raptor together. Easy.

I was hoping to get an energy camel in 11.2.

Hopefully they’re an Ethereal racial mount if ethereals are added.

[milkmustache]

Spells are used for many things, but in the context of that encryption key they probably aren't class abilities or anything like that. Stuff like a Hearthstone as well as some mount related spells could cover most of them already.

Dare I suggest it's always possible they're taking more from GW2 and expanding the D.R.I.V.E. system to other ground mounts with different abilities based on the type of mount they are?

[Marlamin]

Dare I suggest it's always possible they're taking more from GW2 and expanding the D.R.I.V.E. system to other ground mounts with different abilities based on the type of mount they are?

I believe other database tables that don't have any encrypted records would have references to those too, so while unlikely its possible sure.

[13last]

https://butwhytho.net/2025/07/the-wa...sts-of-karesh/ article here with an interview where they talk about the DH boss and potential new spec

they basically said 'we dont have anything to announce about a 3rd dh spec but it would be cool if that happened' like come on lol

Lol I was about to post about this but you beat me to it, it's funny, they are having a good time hyping it up. I look forward to how it plays, unlike a lot of people I have a hard time seeing it be a ranged spec.

[Kiivar86]

I was hoping to get an energy camel in 11.2.

Was hoping for the same, though on the other hand, I really don't like the camel's running animation. Still, would be neat.

[Viridiel]

Just to spark some debate.

How do you think that Salandria would mess up in Midnight? She doesn't seem a bad kid.

She's revealed to have been a black dragon all along, and everybody around her facepalms because she's been using her real name the whole time.

[Scyth]

https://butwhytho.net/2025/07/the-wa...sts-of-karesh/ article here with an interview where they talk about the DH boss and potential new spec

they basically said 'we dont have anything to announce about a 3rd dh spec but it would be cool if that happened' like come on lol

They have done a good job of confirming it basically haha
Really hope this comes out in 11.2.5 and not Midnight!

[13last]

I was listening to Metzen's WSS announcement and I didn't realize he says we will make our stand with the forces of Light. And seeing our birds light spell effect earlier today totally makes me think we'll have a patch related to the light.

Arathi? Tuure? Yrel's lightbound? Whose everyone thinking will be involved from the Light.

[Joshuaj]

I was listening to Metzen's WSS announcement and I didn't realize he says we will make our stand with the forces of Light. And seeing our birds light spell effect earlier today totally makes me think we'll have a patch related to the light.

Arathi? Tuure? Yrel's lightbound? Whose everyone thinking will be involved from the Light.

I was thinking we'd go to the Arathi capital and get our first glimpse of Avaloren

[Limayria]

I was listening to Metzen's WSS announcement and I didn't realize he says we will make our stand with the forces of Light. And seeing our birds light spell effect earlier today totally makes me think we'll have a patch related to the light.

Arathi? Tuure? Yrel's lightbound? Whose everyone thinking will be involved from the Light.

I'm still all in on us beating the void surprisingly easily (first tier), but we are too late and the world soul is full of void goop, the light forces were aligned with take the chance to "corrupt" the void into light and are light infusing azeorths soul so we have to stop them (12.1 raid) then in 12.2 we find a titan facility that's beginning reorginiation of azeorth as an emergency fail safe because she's close to awakening as a light being so we fight our way through the facility to stop it with Alleria (possessed by Xal or working with Xal or smth) helping us deal with the light/void goop

[Eldryth]

I was listening to Metzen's WSS announcement and I didn't realize he says we will make our stand with the forces of Light. And seeing our birds light spell effect earlier today totally makes me think we'll have a patch related to the light.

Arathi? Tuure? Yrel's lightbound? Whose everyone thinking will be involved from the Light.

Probably the Scion from Faerin's recent short story? She can even infuse our allies with the Light since it said that Craishae's "old life and essence were burned away and made new" when the Scion gave her power. It might also bind them to the Light's will like the Lightbound or what Xe'ra tried too.

Actually, speaking of that, I know there's been some speculation about some new kind of Light Elves occasionally, but after reading the description of Craishae's change- with flaming eyes and hair- it might actually be plausible. Doesn't really fit whatever they were hinting at by hiding the characters' face in the housing teaser though- that elf clearly had normal hair.

[13last]

I'm still all in on us beating the void surprisingly easily (first tier), but we are too late and the world soul is full of void goop, the light forces were aligned with take the chance to "corrupt" the void into light and are light infusing azeorths soul so we have to stop them (12.1 raid) then in 12.2 we find a titan facility that's beginning reorginiation of azeorth as an emergency fail safe because she's close to awakening as a light being so we fight our way through the facility to stop it with Alleria (possessed by Xal or working with Xal or smth) helping us deal with the light/void goop

Cool concept, it'd be something unique that's for sure. I know Xal has grown on a lot of people and they'd want her to stick around. I'd like to deal with the Light in it's own saga but that's just me. I also feel like Alleria being possessed seems to be a fun theory.

I was thinking we'd go to the Arathi capital and get our first glimpse of Avaloren

It sounds pretty likely at this rate. I'm curious how that'd go down considering we aren't that friendly with them lol.

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Damn I haven't read that short story gonna do that now, Light Elves would be so funny but at this point I feel like we're gonna have a few surprises waiting for us in Midnight. That char in the housing being a High Elf seems to be a popular theory, think the hair is unique as well?

[Paula Deen]

I believe other database tables that don't have any encrypted records would have references to those too, so while unlikely its possible sure.

Thanks for all your work.

Dare I suggest it's always possible they're taking more from GW2 and expanding the D.R.I.V.E. system to other ground mounts with different abilities based on the type of mount they are?

Drive was not nearly as fun as dragon riding. Unless they come up with something really compelling I will not be pleased with Drive being implemented. I dont like goblins though.

[Joshuaj]

I'm still all in on us beating the void surprisingly easily (first tier), but we are too late and the world soul is full of void goop, the light forces were aligned with take the chance to "corrupt" the void into light and are light infusing azeorths soul so we have to stop them (12.1 raid) then in 12.2 we find a titan facility that's beginning reorginiation of azeorth as an emergency fail safe because she's close to awakening as a light being so we fight our way through the facility to stop it with Alleria (possessed by Xal or working with Xal or smth) helping us deal with the light/void goop

Yeah, not sure about this. The Light and Void's clash on Azeroth's been hinted at since Cata. Would be a waste to beat the Void in the first tier of Midnight. Would be like if we beat the Legion in 7.0.

[KyleEverett]

Yeah, not sure about this. The Light and Void's clash on Azeroth's been hinted at since Cata. Would be a waste to beat the Void in the first tier of Midnight. Would be like if we beat the Legion in 7.0.

I mean we basically did in Tomb of Sargeras. We had beaten the invasion. Argus was us taking the fight to the Legion and destroying it pretty handedly.

[Eldryth]

That char in the housing being a High Elf seems to be a popular theory, think the hair is unique as well?

I think so. I couldn't find a matching one at least.

The fact that they chose an Alliance Thalassian Elf (instead of something like a Human or Orc), but were so careful to hide half of his face, always made it suspicious to me. Sure, I wouldn't say with 100% certainty that it has to be High Elves- it could be major new customization options for Blood and Void elves- but I don't see any point in hiding the face like that if they weren't teasing something there. It really stands out that they took great care to hide his eyes throughout the whole trailer.

[KyleEverett]

They wouldn't unlock Troll and Void Elf Paladins purely from a preorder bonus would they?