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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I was one of the idiots saying bad stuff about pandas then when i was younger 13 years ago, but for many years now i really appreciate MoP as a whole and how badass stuff was.

    I wonder if Metzen will show up at Gamescom, i got a feeling he won't because it seems like he enjoys creating stuff now in peace and not being "out there" in the front too much, but it would be hype to see him.
    I mean I won't blame you. Even as a freakin weeb I was hugely critical of MoP. In my defense we were just after Cataclysm where Uldum with all its cool vibes and deep lore was reduced to the adventures of Harrison Jones and the outdated memes.

    I didn't have the stomach for watching Luce Bree endure casual racism across the leveling process.

    But MoP did pretty good in that regard. If I want to be nitpicky, the elemental spirits on the Wandering Isle corresponded to the Greek four elements not the five elements of the wuxing and the four guardians had the dragon changed from azure to jade and the black tortoise to black ox. But these are minute details compared to the more mature storytelling we have seen.

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    Wtf no?? MOP trailer literally was the best one we got (especially for that time), followed by Legion and the Shadowlands CGI one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Wtf no?? MOP trailer literally was the best one we got (especially for that time), followed by Legion and the Shadowlands CGI one.
    It was a pretty significant downgrade from the Wrath and Cata gameplay trailers.

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    BfA had an awesoem cinematic, and awesome gameplay reveal and the entire panel was hype. After Azshara came up it was a total party. The logo was one of the best, and the title promised an epic expansion.
    I still, for the love of every deity, can't understand how they fucked it up so bad BfA kinda became a slur. It had so much promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Wtf no?? MOP trailer literally was the best one we got (especially for that time), followed by Legion and the Shadowlands CGI one.
    The CGI, yes. The ingame gameplay trailer? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    It was a pretty significant downgrade from the Wrath and Cata gameplay trailers.
    Hell no, I still get goosepumps everytime I watch the MoP one. I don't even remember the Wrath one honestly, and Cata was cool but miles from the MoP one.

    That said, maybe the fact that I played WotlK+Cata made the MoP one better since the little intro at the start spoke to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    BfA had an awesoem cinematic, and awesome gameplay reveal and the entire panel was hype. After Azshara came up it was a total party. The logo was one of the best, and the title promised an epic expansion.
    I still, for the love of every deity, can't understand how they fucked it up so bad BfA kinda became a slur. It had so much promise.

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    The CGI, yes. The ingame gameplay trailer? No.
    Funny enough, imo the cgi mop one was the most lame out of all the cgi trailers hahahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13last View Post
    Honestly I don't understand people's obsession with "testosterone oiled up guys fighting", we've had enough of that for years, it's almost so one dimensional.
    I have no problem with it but it's honestly one of the reasons I stopped watching Asmon as well, all he talks about is the golden days and sweaty men fighting and shitting on retail. Sure it's bloated and needs a soft reset (coming after wss imo) but Blizzard is allowed to do different storylines as they see fit, and come on their budget hasn't been reduced, WSS cinematic with Anduin and Thrall was top tier and I'd be willing to bet Midnight is gonna totally surpass it.

    Not shitting on you Magnificus just I don't see anything wrong with sentiment and a more nuanced story if WoWs gonna continue for another 20 years.
    Literally never since WoD, from 2014. After WoD all we had was that "feeling" stuff with sensible man and stupid shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post



    Funny enough, imo the cgi mop one was the most lame out of all the cgi trailers hahahaha.
    How so? It had naval combat and an orc and a human stalking each other through fog and battling so fiercely it caused coniderable environmental damage. What was it missing for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    Literally never since WoD, from 2014. After WoD all we had was that "feeling" stuff with sensible man and stupid shit.
    Even BfA?

    I mean I understand how you would view the Legion cinematic that way. But BfA was mostly war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    How so? It had naval combat and an orc and a human stalking each other through fog and battling so fiercely it caused coniderable environmental damage. What was it missing for you?
    I guess it wasn't really all that emotionally touching besides the "why do we fight" speech at the end, mostly because of the slapstick fighting. It's not bad, just not as good as say WotLK, Cata, BfA, Shadowlands or Legion Cinematics. Oh Dragonflight was also great. TWW on the other hand .... was kinda boring aswell? But maybe that was because I'm not really interested in Anduin and Thrall tbh. Would rather have gotten Alleria or Xal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    Literally never since WoD, from 2014. After WoD all we had was that "feeling" stuff with sensible man and stupid shit.
    Grumbling about the story direction of a VIDEO GAME is a truly hilarious application for third-world machismo

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    BFA had great cinematics in my opinion, from emotional jaina etc stuff, to Rastakhan blood bargains with bwonsamdi, to fights.

    I mean this was freakin hype.

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    The MoP feature trailer had those awesome music tracks, though. And those in-depth panels really showed how much a labour of love that expansion was to the devs.

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    Secret finder thing is for another transmission. Hopefully this all leads to something good, otherwise back into hibernation until patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    Literally never since WoD, from 2014. After WoD all we had was that "feeling" stuff with sensible man and stupid shit.
    Come on Legion and BfA had some amazing story that wasn't just "feeling". Illidans rejection of the gift is insane of how good it was (my favorite ingame cinematic). BfA cinematic was top notch. I personally don't see anything wrong with character development, some of it feels a little to "childish" but I don't see anything wrong with a good balance. Me and you are just 2 of millions of people playing the game. As garrosh said, times change and we need a good balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Secret finder thing is for another transmission. Hopefully this all leads to something good, otherwise back into hibernation until patch.
    The two weeks after the patch launch, towards Midnight's reveal, will be pain.

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    Wasn't the secret supposed to be out now? Or is it in one more hour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Wasn't the secret supposed to be out now? Or is it in one more hour?
    The Secret Finding Discord is solving it, once solved it'll unlock the 3rd Lora audio log.

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    Surely these logs will lead to playable Ethereals. Right?

    Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakir View Post
    Surely these logs will lead to playable Ethereals. Right?

    Right?
    Most likely some more 'hints' towards Dimensius and patch 11.2. I don't think it will feature stuff we don't know yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dvalin View Post
    Most likely some more 'hints' towards Dimensius and patch 11.2. I don't think it will feature stuff we don't know yet.
    Lora isn't in patch 11.2 so it may be something to do with Ethereals that appear later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Lora isn't in patch 11.2 so it may be something to do with Ethereals that appear later.
    I'm trying to manage my own expectations a bit, because such things would obviously be amazing. I'm currently just not seeing it happen.

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