Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

There's technically nothing stopping them from wearing pants and boots. Both textures get applied to sections of the tail as bands.

Other than the fact that it would look terrible, yeah.

[Darkarath]

A chunk of Outland would be a very cool patch for Midnight, but I would really be tired of TBC if we got an Outland expansion.

Maybe an Ogre, Areakoa and Maghar themed chunk of Outland where we go to rescue them from a black hole or something?

I think that Outland's end might be around the corner. It has been dying for many years, and we haven't seen once a sign of improvement.

But its demise might be accelerated by Xal'athat.

It is my understanding that she will escape in some way or another. At the very least, things are quiet enough so that Alleria and Turalyon can go with Arator to Outland in a mission.

Might Xal'athat consume Outland first? Not only she will leave us without a possible escape, but she might convert several Naaru to the Void.

Some Naaru might escape alongside Orcs, Arakkoa, Ogres, Broken and others, which would give more possibilities to Blizzard for the inevitable revamp of the Old World, while getting rid of Outland in the process (forever alive in CoT).

[Sondrelk]

There's technically nothing stopping them from wearing pants and boots. Both textures get applied to sections of the tail as bands.

It's not impossible in the same way it wasnt impossible for the 3D textures to be applied to Mechagnomes.

[Nize]

7:09 onwards absolutely sounds like a post raid cinematic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX9iYTmRBC4

We can play "guess what happens" off the music.

[Jastall]

Dracthyr could have been really cool, had they been built off of what existed already in the form of the Drakonids. They fit the game's style of exaggerated proportions much better than what we ended up getting.

Every time I see a Dracthyr in game, given that it is a roleplaying server, there's a 50/50 chance that the character isn't even portrayed as a Dracthyr but as a 'half elf' or 'regular elf'.

It's not like they hated that style or anything. They made a perfectly good NPC Drakonid model that looks really cool. Give that one giant wings (or have it manifest them when needed, like DHs) and we're good. Not like armor being visible was much of a concern when the Drakthyr we got only have shoulders and belt anyway.



As for Ogres, I think they'd be more popular than Kul Tirans. They fulfill a pretty specific fantasy. They won't be elf levels of popular, obviously, but Blizzard has thankfully shown they don't only add elves as new races in the first place.

[Alanar]

I can worry about whatever i want. And it doesn't matter if you see me in a position to know limitations or not.

Great, so in other words you are just speculating. Just guessing what those limitions are. As I said, weird to start asking for limited versions right from the bat without knowing anything.

Anyway, its clear what people want to see of this. Naga are what they are and I think its weird to play for dev and settle for a downgrade, because you think you know how it works.

[Enrif]

The problem is that it actually isn't. You are just making up roadblocks where there aren't really any.

and you're just making up solutions that you don't know how it will be implemented, what work it entails or how it will impact aesthetics. Like rings on the tails, really? that would looks ass. Also, more and more chest pieces have 3d details that go below the belt line. Or for an easy look. Just log in onto a mechagnome. And no one wants a repeat of the mechagnomes.

[Makorus]

The big Drakonid wouldn't work for Evokers. None of the animations would look remotely good, and Drakonids having a primarily spellcaster-focused class would be stupid as well.

Imagine the Eternity Surge animation with a Drakonid, it would look ridiculous.

[Alanar]

And the story is stagnant and nothing can change about races.

Let's get real everyone:

They are not going to put in so much effort such at making sure that every single mount works with Naga, because, surprise surprise, there are more mounts than just horses, for a race that no one will play aside from wanting to experience a gimmick race.

Absolutely baffling that the same people who shit on the Dracthyr are in here wanting a Naga that will have like 4 transmog slots lmao.

I think its absolutely possible with the few mount animations we have. To create a few extra such as sidesaddle. There has been many fanart of this to draw inspiration. There is no lets get real. This is just what people want to see if Naga would be playable.

We are literally arguiing to settle for legged naga, because some think certain animations wouldnt work. Those are simply not naga, so ofc people will go against that idea.

I would be against changing iconic races, like Ethereals, Naga to cat ethereals or legged, shape shifting Naga. It makes zero sense and are just downgrades. Certain armor slots being differnt, is not really the problem tbf.

[Wangming]

Absolutely baffling that the same people who shit on the Dracthyr are in here wanting a Naga that will have like 4 transmog slots lmao.

This might sound news for you, but a lot more Naga are an established race that have been part of the setting since TFT.

Meanwhile Dracthyr were made up for Dragonflight and I never read anyone say: Boy I wanna play as the thin twink cousin of a draconic.

[Capivara]

The big Drakonid wouldn't work for Evokers. None of the animations would look remotely good, and Drakonids having a primarily spellcaster-focused class would be stupid as well.

Imagine the Eternity Surge animation with a Drakonid, it would look ridiculous.

yeah it would but evokers were made thinking in dracthyr they are tied. they could've gone another route and give us the drakonid model that is far better then this ones, and make a dragon sworn or dragoon type of class using some spell-blade concept and it would work really well.

[Alanar]

and you're just making up solutions that you don't know how it will be implemented, .

And you are making up excuses/arguments against it when you have no idea what those limitions are.

[Wyrt]

The big Drakonid wouldn't work for Evokers. None of the animations would look remotely good, and Drakonids having a primarily spellcaster-focused class would be stupid as well.

Imagine the Eternity Surge animation with a Drakonid, it would look ridiculous.

Dracthyr already look ridiculous though.

[Enrif]

Great, so in other words you are just speculating. Just guessing what those limitions are. As I said, weird to start asking for limited versions right from the bat without knowing anything.

Anyway, its clear what people want to see of this. Naga are what they are and I think its weird to play for dev and settle for a downgrade, because you think you know how it works.

Yes, i am speculating. Like everyone else here. But i would rather speculate with limitations in mind, instead of have wild dreams that will just disappoint. I'd rather lowball and be excited if they do more, than aiming for the sky, and cry foul when they can't reach those unreachable heights.

I rather speculate what they do with quel'thalas, instead of what they do with the rest of the EK for midnight, as an example.

[Cheezits]

Dracthyr have nothing to do with Naga besides transmog restrictions possibly being involved, and it would be MUCH more like Mechagnome anyway.

If Blizz thinks it's a financially good choice to put the effort into Naga, they'll do it. 100%. It's an old fan request and Blizz is now moving towards old fan requests.

I personally speculate that Naga will not be involved besides a minute role in Midnight, foreshadowing Azshara's return post-TLT.

[Capivara]

i'm not a lore nerd but, doesn't twilight highlands have wild hammer, that draconic orcs and some ogres, or i'm confused? maybe this map will make an apperance in midnight

[Hitei]

It's not impossible in the same way it wasnt impossible for the 3D textures to be applied to Mechagnomes.

No, I mean they are already rigged for the base texture (and even some of the 3D) to function.

Other than the fact that it would look terrible, yeah.

and you're just making up solutions that you don't know how it will be implemented, what work it entails or how it will impact aesthetics. Like rings on the tails, really? that would looks ass. Also, more and more chest pieces have 3d details that go below the belt line. Or for an easy look. Just log in onto a mechagnome. And no one wants a repeat of the mechagnomes.

No. As above, I am not just "making up solutions". That is literally exactly how the model functions even right now on the relatively old NPC versions of Naga.

[Enrif]

And you are making up excuses/arguments against it when you have no idea what those limitions are.

I'd rather be wrong about limitations being there, than be disappointed by limitations i don't know exist.

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No, I mean they are already rigged for the base texture (and even some of the 3D) to function.

No. As above, I am not just "making up solutions". That is literally exactly how the model functions even right now on the relatively old NPC versions of Naga.

and that looks like shit

[Khaza-R]

Yes, i am speculating. Like everyone else here. But i would rather speculate with limitations in mind, instead of have wild dreams that will just disappoint. I'd rather lowball and be excited if they do more, than aiming for the sky, and cry foul when they can't reach those unreachable heights.

I rather speculate what they do with quel'thalas, instead of what they do with the rest of the EK for midnight, as an example.

Is what you're advocating even less work or more realistic though?

A few unique animations compared to some whole ass extra elf form they transform in and out of at will. I don't think that's actually any less work.

Dracthyr have nothing to do with Naga besides transmog restrictions possibly being involved, and it would be MUCH more like Mechagnome anyway.

If Blizz thinks it's a financially good choice to put the effort into Naga, they'll do it. 100%. It's an old fan request and Blizz is now moving towards old fan requests.

I personally speculate that Naga will not be involved besides a minute role in Midnight, foreshadowing Azshara's return post-TLT.

I think it depends on Azshara's role. If she the main antagonist of Midnight then the naga being central to the story makes sense. If Azshara is being saved for later then I agree with you, they probably will have a no significant role in the story.

[Sondrelk]

No, I mean they are already rigged for the base texture (and even some of the 3D) to function.

I know. But even assuming it's happening, the Naga models still need to be built from the ground up to support player animations and more customization options. And I somehow don't see it working like that when they could just pull a Dracthyr and give you some half assed barbershop options and remove the transmog slot entirely.