Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Marlamin]

I have seen the future!

In the 11.2.5/11.2.7 timeframe we'll get playable Ethereals and Entropy Demon Hunter specialization.

In Midnight, we'll get a revamped Quel'Thalas, new Hero Talents, Void and Blood Elves merged into High Elves (choose your style) with more races following later, Housing as the major feature to continously bring small rewards and content through Renown tracks and quests, major additions to Character Customisation bringing all races up to the level of Dracthyr, and Glyphs will make a return as a way to customise the appearance of spells and abilities.

Calm down Worldshaper, don't get too crazy now claiming there's going to be things like player housing.

[13last]

His reaction was definitely a reasonable crash out that I think most in his situation would probably have reacted the same.

Imagine fighting a war for a thousand years relying on this Naaru to survive just to suddenly have it all go up in flames in front of you when you’re so close to the end.

And yeah for sure Turalyon will be in Midnight as one of the primary heroes on the side of the light. No chance they make him a villain.

That's fair, it's a good point. I just hope they don't kill him.

Also if Alleria does become Ranger General either Halduron dies or something else happens. Poor Halduron has been collecting dust only to be used as a chess piece for Alleria aha.

[Kiivar86]

Also if Alleria does become Ranger General either Halduron dies or something else happens. Poor Halduron has been collecting dust only to be used as a chess piece for Alleria aha.

Can also just be she's using the title in some other capacity. Vereesa's been the Ranger-General of the Silver Covenant since MoP with no issue.

[Nightshade711]

I have seen the future!

In the 11.2.5/11.2.7 timeframe we'll get playable Ethereals and Entropy Demon Hunter specialization.

In Midnight, we'll get a revamped Quel'Thalas, new Hero Talents, Void and Blood Elves merged into High Elves (choose your style) with more races following later, Housing as the major feature to continously bring small rewards and content through Renown tracks and quests, major additions to Character Customisation bringing all races up to the level of Dracthyr, and Glyphs will make a return as a way to customise the appearance of spells and abilities.

Idk man, I think a revamped Quel’thalas is too far fetched.
What’s next, a return to Ulduar??

[Thomir]

I have seen the future!

In the 11.2.5/11.2.7 timeframe we'll get playable Ethereals and Entropy Demon Hunter specialization.

In Midnight, we'll get a revamped Quel'Thalas, new Hero Talents, Void and Blood Elves merged into High Elves (choose your style) with more races following later, Housing as the major feature to continously bring small rewards and content through Renown tracks and quests, major additions to Character Customisation bringing all races up to the level of Dracthyr, and Glyphs will make a return as a way to customise the appearance of spells and abilities.

We have glimpsed the same future. Except that part about Glyphs - not in any reality did I see Blizzard updating those ...

[Hitei]

That's fair, it's a good point. I just hope they don't kill him.

Also if Alleria does become Ranger General either Halduron dies or something else happens. Poor Halduron has been collecting dust only to be used as a chess piece for Alleria aha.

Or he just abdicates to her as the superior ranger and person with the knowledge to lead the defense. They are good friends and he was always very loyal to the Windrunners.

[Nightshade711]

Can also just be she's using the title in some other capacity. Vereesa's been the Ranger-General of the Silver Covenant since MoP with no issue.

Ranger-General of the Void Elves could be possible. They’ve been building up their forces as seen in the Harbinger questline.

[Hearthfinder]

I really doubt they are going to mess with existing characters.

They will either permit you to choose, or this change will only apply for newly created characters.

[Hitei]

Can also just be she's using the title in some other capacity. Vereesa's been the Ranger-General of the Silver Covenant since MoP with no issue.

If there's an influx of Blood Elves to the Void Elf ranks, then it'd make sense that each of the three varieties has a ranger-general. It's a shame Sylvanas isn't around for the parity of each branch being lead by a Windrunner sister.

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I really doubt they are going to mess with existing characters.

If it doesn't alter access to existing customization options, I don't see how it'd make any difference. Not really "messing with" them any more than when racials have been wildly changed or the various other updates to visuals. Certainly less of an interference than the WoD+ revamps.

[Hearthfinder]

We have glimpsed the same future. Except that part about Glyphs - not in any reality did I see Blizzard updating those ...

I think Glyphs for two reasons: first because elves are vain which makes this the expansion of cosmetics, trinkets and toys, and second because they've realised during Hero Talent development that people expected more visuals out of them than they could offer and they were locking people in too much (having to choose between optimal performance and visuals). So this way you'll be able to tweak your characters' spell visuals no matter what specialization or Hero Talents you have.

[Kiivar86]

Ranger-General of the Void Elves could be possible. They’ve been building up their forces as seen in the Harbinger questline.

If there's an influx of Blood Elves to the Void Elf ranks, then it'd make sense that each of the three varieties has a ranger-general. It's a shame Sylvanas isn't around for the parity of each branch being lead by a Windrunner sister.

Would make sense yeah. Good representation for all types, Blood, Void, and High.

[Cheezits]

If there's an influx of Blood Elves to the Void Elf ranks, then it'd make sense that each of the three varieties has a ranger-general. It's a shame Sylvanas isn't around for the parity of each branch being lead by a Windrunner sister.

Eh, Velonara deserves her flowers, it would be nice to see her become Ranger-General of the Forsaken.

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One week away(ish) from MAYBE Ethereal confirmation! If they want to get 11.2.5 news out before Gamescom.

[Capivara]

Void and Blood Elves merged into High Elves (choose your style) with more races following later.

I really doubt they are going to mess with existing characters.

Merging this races into one would be a great (and cheap) solution to a problem created by themselves.

And i don't think this mess with existing character as they already told how Belfs just changed there names in honor.

they are doing a lot o things they didn't do in other expansions in tww and dragonflight, so why not?

[Magistrate]

Man I can't wait until they change some text so that everyone can play high elves and we can stop repeating this topic in every thread ad naseum for twenty five years.

[Nightshade711]

I’m sad because I was reminded we’ll probably never have anything come of this:


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Man I can't wait until they change some text so that everyone can play high elves and we can stop repeating this topic in every thread ad naseum for twenty five years.

If that happens then there will be threads about how they’re not “real high elves” because they don’t have (xyz) customization or how alliance side can’t go into BC era Silvermoon or the Horde side of Dalaran.

[Hitei]

If that happens then there will be threads about how they’re not “real high elves” because they don’t have (xyz) customization or how alliance side can’t go into BC era Silvermoon or the Horde side of Dalaran.

Yeah, I don't know why people think whatever happens in Midnight will stop the constant elf spam. They've already been pushing for how they need alternate idle stances because they don't like the slight lean. It'll just switch to begging for ever more cosmetic additions, secondary elf groups like the San'layn, or things like how Darkfallen need to be a full suite of options.

[Joshuaj]

I’m sad because I was reminded we’ll probably never have anything come of this:


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If that happens then there will be threads about how they’re not “real high elves” because they don’t have (xyz) customization or how alliance side can’t go into BC era Silvermoon or the Horde side of Dalaran.

That changed btw. It doesn't have Velen's final line anymore.

[The-Shan]

Ranger-General of the Void Elves could be possible. They’ve been building up their forces as seen in the Harbinger questline.

Remember, the theme of this expansion is reunification of the elven tribes (likely, in my opinion, the elven tribes of quel'thalas, rather than including suramar/night elves.) Making her the 'ranger general of the void elves' wouldn't really serve that end of reunification and reconciliation so much as pitch themselves firmly apart. Remember, these people were countrymen as recently as a few years ago. They are all from the same place more or less. They can overcome their differences, the primary one being that the void elves presence can corrupt the Sunwell. If that is overcome, there is nothing keeping them apart.

[Polybius]

54729802[/URL]That changed btw. It doesn't have Velen's final line anymore.

Checked and it’s still there unless there’s a different link.

[Hitei]

Checked and it’s still there unless there’s a different link.

I seem to recall that it isn't there on the static comic PDF version. Likely just an error from when they were compiling that from the original motion comic release.

Here is the link from the original 2016 announcement.


And the link from the "comics" section of the website .

Which does have the line. Though looking at it, I guess it wasn't actually just an error in compiling the motion version, since the dialogue position itself has changed. I wonder what happened there.

Either way it sort of doesn't matter, part of the problem is that there's no way to actually objectively verify what Velen is even talking about in the comic. "light is going to triumph over shadow today" is a pretty generic priest pep talk, that could just as easily apply to them fighting some grand battle against the Legion (Anduin mentions this being for Varian, who wasn't killed by the Void) as a confrontation against the Void, whom the Draenei have never particularly been concerned with. It also seemingly takes place in Exodar, when we know that the Draenei are already in the process of replacing it.