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    Xal behind radiant song would be just plot twist for the sake of plot twist. It completely ruins beauty of Anduin/Thrall cinematic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    ???

    Dude, that was AFTER he could hear her.

    How about ACTUALLY quoting what he was saying BEFORE that?
    https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Azeroth%27s_Voice
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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    Honestly we know for a fact that Xal can mimic sounds. That is how she could pass off as that one Kirin Tor dude that acted all sus in the intro questline, but nobody rolled high enough on their perception check to notice.

    La question c'est how would/does she know what Azeroth sounds like? Did they ever talk? Or are the customization options in WoW really so limited that there is only one default female worldsoul voice option available and if you heard one you heard em all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Honestly we know for a fact that Xal can mimic sounds. That is how she could pass off as that one Kirin Tor dude that acted all sus in the intro questline, but nobody rolled high enough on their perception check to notice.

    La question c'est how would/does she know what Azeroth sounds like? Did they ever talk? Or are the customization options in WoW really so limited that there is only one default female worldsoul voice option available and if you heard one you heard em all?
    Thank you for bringing that up. Xal is known to be a manipulator for millenia. She decepted the whole council of six and Alleria. Who's to say she isn't behind the Song. Afterall it started after she got the dark heart, right?
    Quote Originally Posted by THEORACLE64 View Post
    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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    So not only does DH get a void specc, Void Elves also get the DH class. I wonder if they plan to balance that with a Horde race getting the class too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13last View Post
    I don't think this necessarily means much, we know when the radiant song started Magni could not hear it. He stated he hasn't heard Azeroth for several years. Only after we went and "helped" him he started hearing it (which is your pic). Xal could have easily manipulated him as easily as she does the Soul Scribe.

    Imo pre radiant song Azeroth was indeed talking to Magni (he even says he can hear Argus but it sounds different then Azeroth). I believe Xal'atath is causing the radiant song, heck the whispers of Karesh/audio log even hints that the voice the Ravel hear isn't fully benevolent (truth with lies, very Xal to me). In Metzens interview in wowcast 11 months ago he says she's a different type of manipulator.

    What is your take/anyone's take if you don't believe Xal is causing radiant song?
    Xal literally has to exert herself over Soul-Scribe. Magni most definitely wasn't empowered by Xalatath.

    Also, Xal sending us to Khaz Algar LITERALLY makes no sense.

    It also makes... little consequence for the Radiant Song to be Xalatath anyway? All she said is that she is in pain, and she sent us to Khaz Algar.

    Time wise, it also doesn't really make sense, because Azeroth started crying out as soon as Amidrassil crossed over to Azeroth, and we know Azeroth was still... concious? at the time, because she did empower the Aspects minutes prior to that.

    Likewise, the Prepatch Event, once again, proves that Magni DID speak to Azeroth.

    It seems that Azeroth has grown... agitated? Something must have happened when Magni tried to commune with her.

    Past events have now come to life once more. I believe they're Azeroth's memories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    Dude, that was AFTER he could hear her.

    How about ACTUALLY quoting what he was saying BEFORE that?
    https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Azeroth%27s_Voice


    If you can't get that right, there no hope in a good discussion
    ... what is your point? I know that she hasn't been speaking to him since BfA.

    However, she is speaking to him there.

    Look, I get it, you really, really desperately want your fanon to be true, however, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It's a twist for a twists sake.

    It would make no sense whatsoever for Xal to do what she is doing. Why the fuck would she send us... to where her whole base of operation is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Honestly we know for a fact that Xal can mimic sounds. That is how she could pass off as that one Kirin Tor dude that acted all sus in the intro questline, but nobody rolled high enough on their perception check to notice.

    La question c'est how would/does she know what Azeroth sounds like? Did they ever talk? Or are the customization options in WoW really so limited that there is only one default female worldsoul voice option available and if you heard one you heard em all?
    Good question, if she is indeed behind the radiant song I'm sure Blizzard will totally explain it to us in a cohesive way /s.

    But honestly even if she's not and Blizz pulls of a 5d chess move I'm just happy the story has gotten better (imo ofc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    So... this being that pretends to be the World Soul is somehow able to make Magni lose his Speaker Form, which was thought to be impossible, and also decides to imbue every new Earthen with Azerite... because... ?

    That's also disregarding the fact that Magni DID hear Azeroth at the start of the expanse, which is the whole reason we are going to Khaz Algar to begin with, and he says he recognises her voice, so it's not someone pretending.

    Can't be Xalatath, because us being there made it way harder for her, Titans are the status quo anyway so there is nothing to gain from them, and we don't really do anything with the Light.
    Magni had to brute force himself to hear azeroth and nearly exploded, it should not be that hard for the voice of azeroth to connect to the line, and even that was described as screaming, imagine if xal'atath muted azeroth and started roleplaying as her to everyone on the planet? So she was understandably desperate to talk to magni too.

    Something about the radiant song is fishy, it might not be directly xal'atath talking but she might have put azeroth in a dream state so she can use her, that could also explain the radiant vision dreams azeroth has, since she is sleeping now xalatath can easily parade as her, now how she could do that we do not know but we know shes older than the ethereals. We also know she worked with locus-walker and was hinted at being that voice guiding him, which appeared at the same time the people of k'aresh got the radiant song.

    Alleria is another hint of this theory , she cannot hear the song, only a void pressence taunting her (probably xal) using the same method she did with the ethereals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilpi View Post
    I'm still convinced they've been updating/revamping old Azeroth for a long time now, and they're just gonna release it at some point in an expansion.
    I mean, pretty much every expansion updates one critter or another. Or updates races like Centaur, Furbolg or Kobold.
    Dragonflight added ducks.

    A lot of assets have been created over the years that can be used to give a face lift to old zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Xal literally has to exert herself over Soul-Scribe. Magni most definitely wasn't empowered by Xalatath.

    Also, Xal sending us to Khaz Algar LITERALLY makes no sense.

    It also makes... little consequence for the Radiant Song to be Xalatath anyway? All she said is that she is in pain, and she sent us to Khaz Algar.

    Time wise, it also doesn't really make sense, because Azeroth started crying out as soon as Amidrassil crossed over to Azeroth, and we know Azeroth was still... concious? at the time, because she did empower the Aspects minutes prior to that.

    Likewise, the Prepatch Event, once again, proves that Magni DID speak to Azeroth.
    Honestly valid, as for why she'd send us to Khaz Algar, maybe she needs us for a plot point that we haven't seen yet? Idk I got a lot of questions, just to me it all points to the song being her, Alleria doesn't hear the radiant song either (her vision is different, maybe being void infused lets her see through Xals plan? - to a degree), maybe there's another twist, I hope we know more next week.

    If there is a twist I'm not sure why Blizzard went out of their way to make it seem like whatever the Ravel heard is very similar to what were hearing and not to trust it, at least not fully, because if the voice is Azeroth and not Xalatath, why wouldn't we trust her voice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    So not only does DH get a void specc, Void Elves also get the DH class. I wonder if they plan to balance that with a Horde race getting the class too.
    Also curious about this. Maybe like some have speculated here before, we'll get some sort of upgraded race customization with unified elfs where horde also gets void elf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zirr View Post
    Also curious about this. Maybe like some have speculated here before, we'll get some sort of upgraded race customization with unified elfs where horde also gets void elf.
    Let's just make Void an option to every race.

    I mean, this is the Light vs Void expansion. Lighforged and Void spreading to every race would make sense.
    And if the Alliance just gets High Elves, it really isn't a loss for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wangming View Post
    Let's just make Void an option to every race.

    I mean, this is the Light vs Void expansion. Lighforged and Void spreading to every race would make sense.
    And if the Alliance just gets High Elves, it really isn't a loss for them.
    I dont think any one on the horde side, would care for void elves tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    I dont think any one on the horde side, would care for void elves tbh.
    Void Elves are just cooler Blood Elves

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    So how empowered is Xal'atath now and will she do anything or is she just potential knaifu who has the potential to do something but doesn't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    So how empowered is Xal'atath now and will she do anything or is she just potential knaifu who has the potential to do something but doesn't?
    That big void tornado storm thing they showed is probably your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Void Elves are just cooler Blood Elves
    Nah dont think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Void Elves are just cooler Blood Elves
    More like boring Blood Elves that got added for plot purposes and to sate Alliance tears about High Elves.

    Mostly kidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    So not only does DH get a void specc, Void Elves also get the DH class. I wonder if they plan to balance that with a Horde race getting the class too.
    Nightborne most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13last View Post
    More like boring Blood Elves that got added for plot purposes and to sate Alliance tears about High Elves.

    Mostly kidding.
    If you like a wannabe, carbon, out of the blue, copy of the original then sure!

    Ofc we are all joking!! Or are we.

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