Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

I heard someone is searching for my home?

But in all seriousness, there is still a chance for Thros to appear, as it's part of the void and emerald dream as well, so if not in the next, perhaps in the life focused expansion.

Kind of insane they didn't do anything with Thros regarding DF. How did that expansion thematically miss the mark when there was a lot going for it?!

Thros/Drust being Void aligned in Midnight would be fun. I really love their wicker witch vibe.

[Lady Atia]

Hopefully there's more than just that in regards to cosmetics. A male counterpart, especially.

As for the new zone, I quite like it overall but it does feel a bit lighter on things to do compared to Undermine. That may very well change once more things open up in the coming weeks. I also wish we had a bit more on the Ethereal side of things. It's a bit of a shame that they're mostly enemies.

I mean, the blood princes literally wear the same stuff lol .... and most items ingame are male coded anyways.

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Voidforged Overseer bio:

> "After the Sepulcher of the First Ones was opened, this construct of the First Ones was stolen by the brokers and sold to the ethereals in a transaction at the Veiled Market. Under the ethereals' ingenious modifications, it integrated the mysteries of the Aether, gliding through the air with extraordinary elegance, leaving behind a trail of shimmering stardust".

It's NOT a Zereth Umbra thing like I originally assumed. It's just a Zereth Mortis Overseer that was modified by the Ethereals. This makes more sense considering the current lore. Also cool how the First Ones are still being mentioned

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I am. Lemme in the Blighted Lands, cowards!

I .... still want both the mount and the bikini. Now.

Fuck China man ...

[Makorus]

Voidforged Overseer bio:

> "After the Sepulcher of the First Ones was opened, this construct of the First Ones was stolen by the brokers and sold to the ethereals in a transaction at the Veiled Market. Under the ethereals' ingenious modifications, it integrated the mysteries of the Aether, gliding through the air with extraordinary elegance, leaving behind a trail of shimmering stardust".

It's NOT a Zereth Umbra thing like I originally assumed. It's just a Zereth Mortis Overseer that was modified by the Ethereals. This makes more sense considering the current lore. Also cool how the First Ones are still being mentioned

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I am. Lemme in the Blighted Lands, cowards!

What is Aether?

That term sporadically gets used from TBC to Shadowlands, but it's never like... a proper thing.

[Joshuaj]

What is Aether?

That term sporadically gets used from TBC to Shadowlands, but it's never like... a proper thing.

I talked about it before, but I think it's meant to kinda keep the cosmos together, or at the very least connect everything.

This would connect with the whole Energy Plane stuff from before.

[Thros]

Kind of insane they didn't do anything with Thros regarding DF. How did that expansion thematically miss the mark when there was a lot going for it?!

Thros/Drust being Void aligned in Midnight would be fun. I really love their wicker witch vibe.

I suppose because it was mostly focused on the ordered part of the dream and elemental forces turned dragons and or prisoners, but honestly it could have been done, but I still have hope for it in the midnight unless some curveball in the last titan, which I doubt then the only choice left is the life/unordered emerald dream expansion.

But i do imagine Drust could be incorporated in a midnight raid or a dungeon.

[Lady Atia]

There's subtle differences. I guess we'll see how it turns out. Calling it a 'San'layn' set would have been a more neutral approach.

Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, of course. Just a pet peeve.

Well, no because it's a cosplay outfit based on the blood queen and that's good lol. Let us girlies have something for once ...

[Thros]

Voidforged Overseer bio:

> "After the Sepulcher of the First Ones was opened, this construct of the First Ones was stolen by the brokers and sold to the ethereals in a transaction at the Veiled Market. Under the ethereals' ingenious modifications, it integrated the mysteries of the Aether, gliding through the air with extraordinary elegance, leaving behind a trail of shimmering stardust".

It's NOT a Zereth Umbra thing like I originally assumed. It's just a Zereth Mortis Overseer that was modified by the Ethereals. This makes more sense considering the current lore. Also cool how the First Ones are still being mentioned

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I am. Lemme in the Blighted Lands, cowards!

The First Ones agenda lives, and I like it. I can't wait for Odyn to babble about them soon enough too.

[Therougetitan]

There's subtle differences. I guess we'll see how it turns out. Calling it a 'San'layn' set would have been a more neutral approach.

Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, of course. Just a pet peeve.

Are you saying men can't be queens if they want to be? It's 2025 of course they can slay.

[Joshuaj]

Could also be the universal fabric but idk

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The First Ones agenda lives, and I like it. I can't wait for Odyn to babble about them soon enough too.

"But I was told Metzen would get rid of them"

[milkmustache]

I suppose because it was mostly focused on the ordered part of the dream and elemental forces turned dragons and or prisoners, but honestly it could have been done, but I still have hope for it in the midnight unless some curveball in the last titan, which I doubt then the only choice left is the life/unordered emerald dream expansion.

But i do imagine Drust could be incorporated in a midnight raid or a dungeon.

DF pulled a lot of punches design wise IMO. The Emerald Dream, regardless of it being the ordered portion or not, was incredibly tame and safe. It felt very fake.

If there's any highlight on potential Blood Elf druids, runestones, etc., it'd be interesting to see a Void empowered Drust come in opposition to them.

Also half /s but I'm not convinced you're not just an alt account for Joshuaj to run up First Ones and Shadowlands propaganda.

[Nymrohd]

While I enjoy alternate realities of WoW as much as anyone, I think they are very much off topic here. Speculation is future facing.

[Thros]

DF pulled a lot of punches design wise IMO. The Emerald Dream, regardless of it being the ordered portion or not, was incredibly tame and safe. It felt very fake.

If there's any highlight on potential Blood Elf druids, runestones, etc., it'd be interesting to see a Void empowered Drust come in opposition to them.

Also half /s but I'm not convinced you're not just an alt account for Joshuaj to run up First Ones and Shadowlands propaganda.

Honestly, I'm not an alt of Joshuaj, but then again one has to take my word for it. I'm not sure how otherwise to prove it, and I realize you are joking, but still others could not. But First Ones need more love and understanding from the community.

See now I want either some new sort of druids or some new hero talent that works around their visuals and runestones, which I guess is the more possible scenario at that point considering void expansion and all that.

[bruxx]

While I enjoy alternate realities of WoW as much as anyone, I think they are very much off topic here. Speculation is future facing.

Careful with your wording, we have already gotten alternate realities as expansion features in the past.


I did the quest where you play as an ethereal yesterday and I was happy to see bits of the after-image back from back in BC. I was really bummed about the legion void ethereals not having it. I wonder if that means that the void ethereals have lost the ability to phase-dive or something.

[Makorus]

Careful with your wording, we have already gotten alternate realities as expansion features in the past.


I did the quest where you play as an ethereal yesterday and I was happy to see bits of the after-image back from back in BC. I was really bummed about the legion void ethereals not having it. I wonder if that means that the void ethereals have lost the ability to phase-dive or something.

I realised how iconic their stupid run animation is when doing that quest lmao.

I also love how the main attack was tearing their wraps off

[Joshuaj]

DF pulled a lot of punches design wise IMO. The Emerald Dream, regardless of it being the ordered portion or not, was incredibly tame and safe. It felt very fake.

If there's any highlight on potential Blood Elf druids, runestones, etc., it'd be interesting to see a Void empowered Drust come in opposition to them.

Also half /s but I'm not convinced you're not just an alt account for Joshuaj to run up First Ones and Shadowlands propaganda.

Okay, I had a feeling someone was gonna assume Thros was some alt account of mine. No, I do not have an alt account, and the mere idea of me having one is silly.

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Heaven fucking forbid someone else likes the Progenitor stuff...

[Nymrohd]

Careful with your wording, we have already gotten alternate realities as expansion features in the past.


I did the quest where you play as an ethereal yesterday and I was happy to see bits of the after-image back from back in BC. I was really bummed about the legion void ethereals not having it. I wonder if that means that the void ethereals have lost the ability to phase-dive or something.

Oh maybe they shift to the Void instead of the whatever Untethered Space is (the Nether?)

[Pyrophax]

So K'aresh was World Soul of Life Dominion? Just like Eonar? But wild and untamed?

[Wangming]

DF pulled a lot of punches design wise IMO. The Emerald Dream, regardless of it being the ordered portion or not, was incredibly tame and safe. It felt very fake.

Which is why I didn't like it. The Emerald Dream as a place was wasted.

[Makorus]

I don't think Emerald Dream is supposed to feel "wild and untamed"

[Monkal]

Which is why I didn't like it. The Emerald Dream as a place was wasted.

Agreed. Only instance where I'd agree if someone called it "Disneyfied".