Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

The Thrall key art is basically confirmation that Yrel will be invading.

Remember her lightbound army is made up of conscripted orcs INCLUDING paladin Garrosh.

Thralls going to be involved due to that orc aspect and dealing with the paladin ghost of Garrosh reminding him of his greatest failure

How? Why? What?

[Well Done Steak]

How? Why? What?

Orc issues, that's why.

Invading light orcs and paladin gary gonna take Thrall for a ride

[Catastrophy349]

Orc issues, that's why.

Invading light orcs and paladin gary gonna take Thrall for a ride

Now I can say I've heard it all.

[Revamp Man]

It is well explained that the First Ones predate any form of pantheon from any cosmic forces we know of

I'm talking about the eternal ones
The death pantheon

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I think it's about time that portal in the chamber of the heart got put in

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I say no on Yrel.

[Nightmare Queen]

When we get orcs druids sure

There already is one in game
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=87566/rala-wildheart

[Khaza-R]

I say no on Yrel.

Same. Its a side story at best.

It being the premise of an entire expansion would be a disaster.

[Hitei]

How? Why? What?

At this point the expansion theories are reaching Teriz levels of convoluted justification.

[Catastrophy349]

11.0 is Void/Titan theme. All else will be revealed in time.

[Syegfryed]

There already is one in game
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=87566/rala-wildheart

Yeah, thats why im saying they should do it. Because there is already one, and they are the one that make more sense with shamans and being with taurens and trolls for so long

But of course, they will ignore and give to blood elves first, lmao

[Well Done Steak]

Amazes me how people dismiss Yrel so easily...

We have an entire AU race in Horde side who's npc constantly talk about the lightbound threat.

Oh and that Horde alliance boss fight from Dawn? You can bet blizzy purposely put Grom as the horde champ instead of blackhand or even freaking Doomhammer on purpose to remind the players of Grom.

Keep in mind old AU Grom charged at Yrel before we ported out and his fate remain unknown.

There is no way that story won't be revisited, and it's going to be in the upcoming light vs void exp.

Mark my words

[Syegfryed]

The Thrall key art is basically confirmation that Yrel will be invading.

Remember her lightbound army is made up of conscripted orcs INCLUDING paladin Garrosh.

Thralls going to be involved due to that orc aspect and dealing with the paladin ghost of Garrosh reminding him of his greatest failure

What key Art?

And it can't be Garrosh since his mother would be another person, it would be rly weird if Grom gave the name Garrosh too, but alas, maybe they will just say fuck it and make the same character, who know what they do at this point

[Well Done Steak]

What key Art?

And it can't be Garrosh since his mother would be another person, it would be rly weird if Grom gave the name Garrosh too, but alas, maybe they will just say fuck it and make the same character, who know what they do at this point

Yeah different mom, but if chromie can be an undead trex I'm sure paladin Gary can exist with a different mom.

[Teriz]

South Seas is a tricky one for me. As I do believe that both Undermine and Tel’Abim could both be expanded on to be their own setting for an expansion. Though I definitely wouldn’t be against a South Seas expansion showing Undermine, Tel’Abim, Plunder Isle, Hiji and possibly Ogrezonia. I think that would be a lot of fun, but I also see the worth in doing both Undermine and Tel’Abim separately.

There are some other islands we haven’t visited that could definitely be used in an Azshara expansion, such as Balor and Zul’Dare.

Undermine could easily be a continent-sized city with each zone representing a different section of the city. Considering that it is the center of a global trade empire, its city center alone should be several times larger than Stormwind and Orgrimmar. Not to mention that the surface of Kezan would be part of the expansion as well, and should look different than the Goblin starter zone because of the Eruption. Kezan's surface could also be utilized as the starter zones for the expansion.

You could also have a revamped Gadgetzhan and Tanaris in the same expansion with it being similar to how it appears in Hearthstone;




You throw Tel'abim and Plunder Isle into the mix and you have plenty of landmass to explore, though it would be more urban that previous WoW expansion areas.

That said, I don't believe that's going to be 11.0. It's going to be an expansion eventually, but more than likely not the next one.

[Syegfryed]

After BfA we are not going to get "south seas", that was our south seas expansion.

So far, i think there is 3 likely scenarios of a new expansion, first being Yrel and light invasion, its being hinted since BfA, and most of those subtle hints are set up for 2 expansions ahead, the rest are tricky ones, that i at least don't know since im not playing DF to know the hints, could be undermine, or more void stuff, but after BFA and shadowlands i think they will give a break.

Then we are left with Revamp, and maybe pull out something like MOP with undiscovered landmasses, but still, what plot would be? at least Yrel is already set up and goes for the grand scheme of things with the light as a cosmological force

Yeah different mom, but if chromie can be an undead trex I'm sure paladin Gary can exist with a different mom.

Yeah, but what key art

[Revamp Man]

Next expansion is either
Xal and black empire with MILD revamp
OR
Elemental invasions

Can't say anything for sure until 10.2 data mining
The only thing we know for sure is blizz is great at foreshadowing their surprise twist so well that the community can predict half an expansion

[Well Done Steak]

After BfA we are not going to get "south seas", that was our south seas expansion.

So far, i think there is 3 likely scenarios of a new expansion, first being Yrel and light invasion, its being hinted since BfA, and most of those subtle hints are set up for 2 expansions ahead, the rest are tricky ones, that i at least don't know since im not playing DF to know the hints, could be undermine, or more void stuff, but after BFA and shadowlands i think they will give a break.

Then we are left with Revamp, and maybe pull out something like MOP with undiscovered landmasses, but still, what plot would be? at least Yrel is already set up and goes for the grand scheme of things with the light as a cosmological force




Yeah, but what key art

The new thrall key art for blizzcon

[Xilurm]

You know what's a REALLY crap feeling? Flying around the Dragon Isles and feeling just how good Dragonriding is because of how vertical and HUGE the Isles are. Going back to any other continent just feels so small in comparison. I'm not looking forward to the next continent feeling "tiny".

Something that makes me doubt there's going to be a revamp is the new view distance. If you fly for example above Goldshire you can see Blackrock Mountain and it's entrance clear as day, it shows you how close it is. You can see Zul'Gurub, the tree in Duskwood is pretty much next to Elwynn and I could even spot the Stranglethorn Arena. It kinda breaks immersion seeing everything so close. So I don't know what they'll do with that if they revamp the zones and decide to bring the players there for current content.

[Well Done Steak]

Something that makes me doubt there's going to be a revamp is the new view distance. If you fly for example above Goldshire you can see Blackrock Mountain and it's entrance clear as day, it shows you how close it is. You can see Zul'Gurub, the tree in Duskwood is pretty much next to Elwynn and I could even spot the Stranglethorn Arena. It kinda breaks immersion seeing everything so close. So I don't know what they'll do with that if they revamp the zones and decide to bring the players there for current content.

There's never going to be a cata level revamp again, there's just too much work in that when leveling has been completely redone

[KayRule]

Next expansion is either
Xal and black empire with MILD revamp
OR
Elemental invasions

Can't say anything for sure until 10.2 data mining
The only thing we know for sure is blizz is great at foreshadowing their surprise twist so well that the community can predict half an expansion

It's neither of those, holy shit. The fact that so many are convinced and ignoring loads of in-game lead ins again is reminding me of Shadowlands and Dragon Isles all over again.