Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Golden Yak]

A friend close to me leaked the following cinematic pictures, showing the return of a fan-favorite character:

Holy SHIT.

I made a prediction that Yogg-Saron was going to come back somehow, involving the Dark Heart.

If they do it by putting the Heart into Zovaal's corpse?

That would actually make Yogg-Saron a God of Death. Which he always claimed to be.

Yogg-Saron is an Old God, they're all about the Void and outside time and space and seeing infinite possibilities or whatever.

He wasn't saying that he was the God of Death when he fought him. He was saying that he was going to become the God of Death in the future.

Fuck. Fuuuuuuuck.

[Makorus]

Oh, it wouldn't. It would also be a nonsequiture to this whole storyline centering around the worldsoul, which is certainly not in the sky (?!). I just like shit in the sky

Tears of the Kingdom-fy Northrend, revealing Harrowsdeep and Azjol-Nerub while we are at it.

[Magistrate]

Oh, it wouldn't. It would also be a nonsequiture to this whole storyline centering around the worldsoul, which is certainly not in the sky (?!). I just like shit in the sky

If not for this series I hope we do get a true sky zone with full launch zone level effort one of these days esp with a fantasy/steampunk twist. Very multilayered vertically.

I really wanted Rootlands to be under ungoro with like wide shafts breaking through the surface above for a highly vertical double-zone you traverse with dragonriding, alas...

Edit--

Alternatively, Skywall.

[vintage79]

Holy SHIT.

I made a prediction that Yogg-Saron was going to come back somehow, involving the Dark Heart.

If they do it by putting the Heart into Zovaal's corpse?

That would actually make Yogg-Saron a God of Death. Which he always claimed to be.

Yogg-Saron is an Old God, they're all about the Void and outside time and space and seeing infinite possibilities or whatever.

He wasn't saying that he was the God of Death when he fought him. He was saying that he was going to become the God of Death in the future.

Fuck. Fuuuuuuuck.

Holy shit, 8-dimensional chess, let’s go—snow has probably melted by now—but bring on the tinkers and let’s roll!

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I am still surprised but again the PTR Promotion mount being a recolor of the Zovaal Mythic mount still makes me wonder and I don't know I just have a hard time believing such a whiteboard leak would occur.

[Capivara]

Holy SHIT.

I made a prediction that Yogg-Saron was going to come back somehow, involving the Dark Heart.

If they do it by putting the Heart into Zovaal's corpse?

That would actually make Yogg-Saron a God of Death. Which he always claimed to be.

Yogg-Saron is an Old God, they're all about the Void and outside time and space and seeing infinite possibilities or whatever.

He wasn't saying that he was the God of Death when he fought him. He was saying that he was going to become the God of Death in the future.

Fuck. Fuuuuuuuck.

wouldn't it make sense to have bwonsandi helping us and a kinda of witch doctor class fitting to the theme of the expansion it it is like this? :O

[Cheezits]

Maybe instead of The halls of valor parking on Northrend, Northrend is brought up to the halls of valor (Despite the terrible disappointment of the dragon isles, I'll have my floating continent yet!)

I'm very sure the Halls of Valor will link back up with Ulduar as they were the same structure once. It will coincidentally make it look much more Vrykul-like which I'm sure will coincide with Odyn taking control of the facility, the Titanforged, and the Vrykul.

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I am still surprised but again the PTR Promotion mount being a recolor of the Zovaal Mythic mount still makes me wonder and I don't know I just have a hard time believing such a whiteboard leak would occur.

The whiteboard leak is separate from the Jailer thing, it was attached.

[THEORACLE64]

I don't like where these leaks are going. I want out.

You mean down the toilet because they're all literal shxt

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

The whiteboard leak is separate from the Jailer thing, it was attached.

But the cinematic shots were first leaked with both shots? Did they exist prior or is this the original source of these images?

I mean, its interesting. The only credibility those Zovaal shots have are due to the Promotion mount that MrGMYT wrote on X about which is a purple recolor of the Zovaal Mythic mount and thats the only real reason to at least discuss this even if it seems silly.

[Cheezits]

But the cinematic shots were first leaked with both shots? I mean, its interesting. The only credibility those Zovaal shots have are due to the Promotion mount that MrGMYT wrote on X about which is a purple recolor of the Zovaal Mythic mount and thats the only real reason to at least discuss this even if it seems silly.

Marlamin cited that the whiteboard leak came from several months ago. Unsure where the jailer thing came from but it was not originally attached to the Whiteboard at all, meaning it could have been attached as a troll.

And Hitei pointed out that the cinematic model is missing the Jailer's corpses signature golden chin.

https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...al/1054995.jpg

[Paula Deen]

I'm very sure the Halls of Valor will link back up with Ulduar as they were the same structure once. It will coincidentally make it look much more Vrykul-like which I'm sure will coincide with Odyn taking control of the facility, the Titanforged, and the Vrykul.

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The whiteboard leak is separate from the Jailer thing, it was attached.

Is this friend on MMOC or just someone you know? I believe you that you were linked it. Been there.

[13last]

"of course Blizzcon... it is Azeroth. Things may not go to plan. Things may just spiral wildly out of control. Leading us to...the third part of the Worldsoul Saga."
Metzen's choice of words make me think of a new cataclysm/sundering but maybe at a smaller (doable for an expansion?) scale event that cracks open the planet, according to the image above, at Northrend...which could reveal parts of the giant prison Azeroth is locked into, the Worldcore, revealing it to the public eye for everyone on the planet...which could make the Titans return to Ulduar to try to fix it (hide it) from everyone again...and whoever decides to not help them is considered an enemy by them.

Those are some choice words from Metzen, also given his interview not to long ago about the saga, I think Midnight and LTL are gonna have some crazy story beats and dramatic changes happening to Azeroth.

My take is that the Titans are just straight up here to awaken Azeroth and all living things will die. We'll have some uneasy alliances, a lot of death (metzen even mentioned some important characters might not make it) and it'll be a big cosmic battle with a lot of characters and us of course.

Or we lose in Midnight and worldsoul is corrupted and they come to wipe all living things. But if there's some grand conspiracy like we've been told I don't see this as much.

Either way I believe we'll have a revamp of Azeroth post TLT

[Frook513]

If the cinematic isn't action focused and doesn't include Xal, I'm done. Tired of the standing and talking cinematics that have plagued the game since DF.

absolutely agree even shadowlands was miles ahead of the TWW cinematic, it needs big shock value and really important shit happening to generate interest especially if its showed at gamescon its their chance to bring alot of people to the game.

[Paula Deen]

The original (as far as we can tell) poster mentioned it was due to the Cataclysm but they also mentioned it was a Midnight leak and neither of those make sense given what we already know about TLT and that we went back to Northrend already since the Cataclysm.

I did see people assuming the concept map was still in the sea, but I wonder if maybe that isn't the case and it's closer to an Argus/K'aresh type situation based on whatever happens. It is easy to sink both Borean Tundra and Zul'Drak into the sea, but Howling Fjord is a little harder to believe in that way.

Do you have the source for the original post? I would really like to read it.

[Cheezits]

Or we lose in Midnight and worldsoul is corrupted and they come to wipe all living things. But if there's some grand conspiracy like we've been told I don't see this as much.

I think it's likely that Xal succesfully corrupts the worldsoul somehow even if she/the void forces lose, leading to Odyn rallying the keepers to summon the Titans back to do something about it (world reset likely, which would involve everyone but them dying). And as we fight against the Titanforged we find out more about the conspiracy including some things pretty obviously hinted at in the narrative (worldsouls not naturally being titans, titans imprisoned azeroth) and possibly some more outlandish crazy things (first ones are the titans, titans linked up with the Light to enforce their timeline, possible timeloop).

[Santandame]

Tears of the Kingdom-fy Northrend, revealing Harrowsdeep and Azjol-Nerub while we are at it.

I would be very happy with this. It would soften the blow of losing Howling Fjord and Grizzly for me.

It also makes a lot of sense due to having just gone through an underground expansion. As well as the map having a glaring focus on the frozen zones of Northrend, Sholozar aside.

That said, based off what we know of Northrend it still looks like it’s going to be a very cold, dark expansion colour wise, again, Sholozar aside. Hopefully we get some major changes to those zones to brighten them up a bit.

Icecrown melting and revealing a landscape similar to Crystalsong Forest would help with this massively. As well as an expansion of the Dragonshrines in Dragonblight so it’s not completely a frozen wasteland.

[vintage79]

Oh, this just reminded me of something from years ago, hmmm

[Wangming]

Holy SHIT.

I made a prediction that Yogg-Saron was going to come back somehow, involving the Dark Heart.

If they do it by putting the Heart into Zovaal's corpse?

That would actually make Yogg-Saron a God of Death. Which he always claimed to be.

Yogg-Saron is an Old God, they're all about the Void and outside time and space and seeing infinite possibilities or whatever.

He wasn't saying that he was the God of Death when he fought him. He was saying that he was going to become the God of Death in the future.

Fuck. Fuuuuuuuck.

Let's be frank. Do we expect all the Old Gods to stay dead for the Worldsoul Saga?
Cause I sure as hell do not.
Imagine if Xal'atath's vengenace for her imprisonment is that she now resurrects the Old Gods under her control. With the power of Dimensius she is pretty much a Void Lord herself and is most likely capable of doing so. And even last time when she was less powerful it took the combined work of all four of them to capture her.

[Makorus]

omg does anyone have the shot of Wyrmrest from before DF that no one could really replicate?

Edit: Found it

Obviously, that's like way too far back to be relevant, but still a funny piece of history.

[Paula Deen]

Oh, this just reminded me of something from years ago, hmmm

From when and where?