Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Thomir]

I’m still mildly surprised we don’t have Halflings yet in WoW. Maybe a hypothetical Northeron could introduce them?

No, Gnomes are not the same.

It'd be weird if there was a whole race of people in a settled location in EK that no one had any knowledge of.

[Nymrohd]

I mean, at this point it should really just be a large area of overgrown, burned out buildings.

I like to think of it as the Silent Hill of Warcraft; the fires still burning.

[Nightshade711]

They should just keep it in Azuremyst for the eventual Kalimdor revamp.

Putting it in Azuremyst for a revamp that won’t happen for another 2-3 years is a crazy take when they could put it in current content.

People forgetting about the Draenei’s involvement with the sunwell though.

[Nymrohd]

Tempest Keep guns down the void army

Xal'atath at the Sunwell: Don't look so smug. I know what you're thinking, but Tempest Keep was merely a setback.

Would be a properly Epic moment for the Army of Light to arrive and actually matter. Epic fantasy, even if nonsense, gets people hyped, gets the game talked about and cinematics buzzing. Similarly I'd do an army of ghosts moment with Kael'thas and Sylvanas bringing an army of elven ghosts with Anasterian at its head to charge and lift the siege of Silvermoon; they'd have to disperse after they get us inside. Great way to start a raid.

[Hearthfinder]

I’m still mildly surprised we don’t have Halflings yet in WoW. Maybe a hypothetical Northeron could introduce them?

No, Gnomes are not the same.

The other side of Azeroth still has the potential for anything we want!

[Joszef Kiprich]

"Instead of having a blood elf city as the primary capital for the first time we'll have yet another humans city."

Yeah, that does sound like something Blizzard would do.

I don't mean that Stratholme/Deatholme will be our Capital. It will be the staging ground because we have to re conquer SMC. First quest hub to get into the instanced new version of QD. At the end of questing SMC will be the capital.
In canon Stratholme probably is an empty city right now? But just think its our way to get into QD.

[Wangming]

It'd be weird if there was a whole race of people in a settled location in EK that no one had any knowledge of.

Like how nobody bothered to fly over the Greymane wall and check how they were doing between WC3 and Cataclysm?

[Enrif]

at this pace, bickering about what space is or isn't part of midnight, we will easily reach 5000 pages until next week.

And we still have later today for the US reveal of the raid end cinematic

[Nymrohd]

Like how nobody bothered to fly over the Greymane wall and check how they were doing between WC3 and Cataclysm?

The Alliance would not care; Gilneas abandoned them. If anything, Stormwind would be hostile to them given the number of refugees that arrived only after being rebuffed at the Wall. Varian was not exactly happy to help Genn, they only did so because the Night Elves asked and because they would be useful against the Horde.

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at this pace, bickering about what space is or isn't part of midnight, we will easily reach 5000 pages until next week.

And we still have later today for the US reveal of the raid end cinematic

For me it is simple
If it is only Quel'thalas and nothing else whatsoever
a) it is a tiny area compared to recent expansions which would be extremely weird with Skyriding OR
b) it is scaled up and thus not connected to the rest of the continent at all something I and I assume many others have wished for two decades now.

[micwini]

Easy fix. Just add new land

[Nymrohd]

Easy fix. Just add new land

And adding a completely new area that did not exist before and somehow changes Tyr's Hand (which was a coastal area back in WC2 and is a port in the in-game lore with an entire event linked to it is a better solution than revamping EPL together with Quel'thalas how?

[Xilurm]

Putting it in Azuremyst for a revamp that won’t happen for another 2-3 years is a crazy take when they could put it in current content.

People forgetting about the Draenei’s involvement with the sunwell though.

Why would they when we have Silvermoon? I'd rather them focus on Silvermoon and make it as good as it can be than get two half assed cities that could've been so much more.

If the Draenei need to go there just take the Vindicaar. Simple. Why build a whole ass city so they can have a proper home for their people just to take it to war?

[Enrif]

For me it is simple
If it is only Quel'thalas and nothing else whatsoever
a) it is a tiny area compared to recent expansions which would be extremely weird with Skyriding OR
b) it is scaled up and thus not connected to the rest of the continent at all something I and I assume many others have wished for two decades now.

its b), that should be the baseline assumption. Attaching to the rest is as much wishful thinking as hoping the Shadowlands or AU Draenor will be retconned out.

[Pyrophax]

Putting it in Azuremyst for a revamp that won’t happen for another 2-3 years is a crazy take when they could put it in current content.

People forgetting about the Draenei’s involvement with the sunwell though.

That should not be reason for their involvement. Quel'Thalas content should Quel'Thalas content, not some "Elf party and their besties blue hoofed goats". Draenei should wait for their turn for content.
Their content.
About Azuremist and Bloodmist Isles, about New Shattrath, eredars, man'ari and krokuls.

[Nymrohd]

its b), that should be the baseline assumption. Attaching to the rest is as much wishful thinking as hoping the Shadowlands or AU Draenor will be retconned out.

And how does that work out with flying? The new transition tech barely works properly when used in a small tunnel that restricts what can be seen. Fly fast to the Ringing Deeps and you can easily end up in empty space and beneath the zone proper by the time it decides to render. It cannot easily be b) because they simply do not have the tools to do that.

[Wyrt]

That should not be reason for their involvement. Quel'Thalas content should Quel'Thalas content, not some "Elf party and their besties blue hoofed goats". Draenei should wait for their turn for content.
Their content.
About Azuremist and Bloodmist Isles, about New Shattrath, eredars, man'ari and krokuls.

The Light vs. Void fight is draenei content though. Velen had a prophecy about it, that's the original origin of this entire storyline.

Draenei 100% should be involved in Midnight. They should not be taking their new city into a war zone though and Silvermoon should be the expansion capital.

Also, "draenei should wait their turn for content" is hilarious since they haven't been part of the main story since fucking Legion.

[Pyrophax]

Also, "draenei should wait their turn for content" is hilarious since they haven't been part of the main story since fucking Legion.

That is not a reason either. Troll lack content from MoP, Orcs from fking WoD, Taurens from Cata.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I hope horde will have some questline that follows up orc heritage one about healing durotar, show some changes, outland clans settling in.

It's one of the zones that should get some updates, i know it's not the zone where main action will happen, but with us coming back to the old world there should be at least some hand picked classic zones outside main story that get revamped to at least see some continuation, maybe with some evergreen feature attached to them.

They are hyping midnight like crazy, so i hope they will go big.

[Wyrt]

That is not a reason either. Troll lack content from MoP, Orcs from fking WoD, Taurens from Cata.

Well, first of all, you're ignoring that the void vs. light is a draenei plot point that was established as far back as Cata that the draenei are supposed to take a major role in.

Secondly, did you miss BfA?

[Xilurm]

The Draenei should appear (Everyone should appear because this is literally an apocalyptic invasion on the scale of the Legion) but let's keep their city where it should be so when the time comes, we get content centered around the Draenei themselves.