Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[bonifacy]

That's literally not even remotely the structure of a trilogy, but keep waffling on.

Yea productive discussion. - Your arguments are not valid, because I say so. Period.

[Wangming]

Exactly. Tbh the things that were known was exactly what would happen and people still expect twists and what not.

I mean.. cmon.

The interesting part is the journey, not the destiantion.
We knew LW would die, and killed by Xal'atath.
But how? Would he go out like a hero?
A villain getting her just rward?
Or a total chump?

[13last]

Exactly. Tbh the things that were known was exactly what would happen and people still expect twists and what not.

I mean.. cmon.

Oh come on she didn't even have a shot of her feet there at all! /s

Only thing that's fun to me is the fact Dumensius is still there just contained, it's a nice little tidbit.

Honestly I'm probably wrong but what we know about how Eco Dome cinematic ends and the fact Dimensius is still alive and this new feature about us helping bring back wildlife into K'aresh I'm on team Ethereals playable!

[Alanar]

The interesting part is the journey, not the destiantion.
We knew LW would die, and killed by Xal'atath.
But how? Would he go out like a hero?
A villain getting her just rward?
Or a total chump?

Well, it was literally shown in the trailer before 11.2 even went live. I didnt had those questions myself.

Little annoyed with thr "WAIT!" and Lw still touches it. We have seen that happen so many times as well. Kinda stupid, but oo well wow has never been very deep in story telling.

[Ochinko]

While I agree on the part that the story makes perfect sense for us to get ethereals as a playable race, the cinematic went through too much effort to show how he "voidified" and then exploded to make him come back in any form. If anything it could make him a symbol of resistance in the introduction zone for the ethereals.

[blaatschaap]

I hope not. Enough with the fucking fakeout deaths were no stupid decision has any real consequences.
Frankly, even bringing back Khadgar was a mistake.

at least bringing khadgar back furthered anduin's storyline (even though we haven't heard from him since). I think that is what bothers people about 11.1 and 11.2. literally all of the major protagonist characters from 11.0 except alleria went AWOL once the expac's major patches came out. it's not really a cohesive story being told. they plopped orweyna into the undermine intro when it was barely appropriate and did a lame sidestory in arathi with faerin. it's weird.

[Alanar]

Oh come on she didn't even have a shot of her feet there at all! /s

Only thing that's fun to me is the fact Dumensius is still there just contained, it's a nice little tidbit.

Honestly I'm probably wrong but what we know about how Eco Dome cinematic ends and the fact Dimensius is still alive and this new feature about us helping bring back wildlife into K'aresh I'm on team Ethereals playable!

That is the only thing that we hope is the outcome.
Sadly I dont think so, I hope I am proven wrong.

[Hearthfinder]

We're officially less than a week away from the Midnight event.

[Thros]

I complained about it a when the battle effect showing him getting bottled into the DH was decrypted and people basically said I was overreacting. Like, yeah, we're used to seeing the DH absorbing stuff and Dimensius was powered by it, but that doesn't make his presence less of a nothing burger.

Dimensius doesn't feel like a Titan when they should be equivalents.

To be fair, the titans were a small ball tortured by the Burning Legion until we freed them they too could have been sucked in just like Denathrius with Remornia, or Sargeras made small and sucked into a platform.

[Makorus]

So how would YOU structure a trilogy. Enlighten us.

Act 1: Introduce characters, key players, the main conflict, concepts, have smaller conflicts that the heroes win, but while keeping in mind that the villain at large is still around.

See: A New Hope or Fellowship of the Ring

Act 2: Raise stakes, challenge the heroes/make them lose (or lose something), reveal more about the villain, potentially reveal the bigger villain.

See: Empire Strikes Back, Two Towers

Act 3: Conclude the main conflict, tie up any loose ends and pay off setups from previous entries. Show aftermath of the conflict and the setting.

See: Return of the Jedi, Return of the King


Like, Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi would suck if we knew every single thing about Darth Vader, and Palpatine showed himself in A New Hope.

Like, story structure is an actual thing, it's not just a thing people say because they sound smart.

Set-up -> Confrontation -> Resolution. Just because you introduce a character in the set-up doesn't mean you need to be told their whole biography, because in terms of storytelling, that just kills any interest in the character.

[Wangming]

at least bringing khadgar back furthered anduin's storyline (even though we haven't heard from him since).

Which showed how important it was.

He made one of the dumbest mistakes he could do
Disappeared from the narrative till the .0 campaign finalee
Had that one questline about there being no more Dalaran or even Kirin Tor basically
Disappeared again from the story.

I'm not even sure why Khadgar was needed for this story if not to give him a sendoff.

[Hearthfinder]

I think we'll be pleasantly surprised when we see the gameplay trailer. I don't see how it's even possible to disappoint with such a great premise.

[Xilurm]

Act 1: Introduce characters, key players, the main conflict, concepts, have smaller conflicts that the heroes win, but while keeping in mind that the villain at large is still around.

This is literally what TWW is?

[Wangming]

Act 1: Introduce characters, key players, the main conflict, concepts, have smaller conflicts that the heroes win, but while keeping in mind that the villain at large is still around.

So with that in mind: who are the key players and the main conflict of the worldsoul saga?

And don't use Dev info or any of that crap. What do we know from the game itself?

ALSO:

Wooooo, page 5K!!! We did it!
And we still have a week till the reveal.

[Hearthfinder]

Act 1: Introduce characters, key players, the main conflict, concepts, have smaller conflicts that the heroes win, but while keeping in mind that the villain at large is still around.

See: A New Hope or Fellowship of the Ring

Act 2: Raise stakes, challenge the heroes/make them lose (or lose something), reveal more about the villain, potentially reveal the bigger villain.

See: Empire Strikes Back, Two Towers

Act 3: Conclude the main conflict, tie up any loose ends and pay off setups from previous entries. Show aftermath of the conflict and the setting.

See: Return of the Jedi, Return of the King


Like, Empire Strikes Back/Return of the Jedi would suck if we knew every single thing about Darth Vader, and Palpatine showed himself in A New Hope.

Problem for WoW is that they can't afford not making every expansion an epic experience on its own.

That said, Dimensius = Death Star?

A big difference is that the Saga is about the Worldsoul, not the Void. Strangely enough the Void will likely go away in "Empire".

[Xilurm]

5000 pages LFG!! Will we reach 10k before TLT?

[Wyrt]

So, Midnight is going to happen in Quel'thalas all because Xal'atath wants some petty revenge on Alleria?

[Makorus]

This is literally what TWW is?

Yes. Which is my point? It was said that the WSS is structured poorly when it's not.

[Cheezits]

I like this leak. Has some sensical and also surprising things in it.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post54734291

Blood elves and void elves are made available to the opposing faction.
• Alliance aligned blood elves are high elves.
• Horde aligned void elves are blood elves transformed during the prepatch event.
New barbershop options:
• Dwarf, troll, blood elf, void elf.
• Demon Hunters get barbershop option to customize their demon form.
• Priests unlock silver color for holy spells.
• New dwarf and troll customizations unlock from MQ epilogue quest line.
Class proliferation:
• Demon Hunter: void elf, troll
• Paladin: night elf, undead

What would the dwarf option even be? We already have Wildhammer. Also, Troll demon hunter would be surprising but cool.

[Monkal]

So, Midnight is going to happen in Quel'thalas all because Xal'atath wants some petty revenge on Alleria?

Or a distraction.