Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ersula]

Tethering Brokers to K'aresh opens up the remaining Ethereals there to leave.

Or, the playable Ethereals are like the Wandering Isle Pandaren: from another area entirely, and they don't really care about K'aresh (like the Consortium) all that much.

There's been Ethereals living in every capital city for a long time now.

The demand for Ethereals has probably been more widespread than other races, even the people asking for another high elf race makes the rest of the playerbase cringe. I think if we don't get them as a pre-order, we get them halfway through midnight because they honestly were not anticipating how popular the idea of playable ethereals would be.

Typically the demand for certain races is very vocal but pretty niche. With Ethereals its more general. Everyone covering the game is like, "Ethereals when?"

[Pyrophax]

I'm gonna guess all the leaks are incorrect, with the Horde Velf/Troll DH one having a 5% chance of being correct. TWW was only leaked by accident a few minutes before so they probably are locked up tight.

I will wait like 5 days to chance for credible leak. Someone will 100% leak it in with photos of stage ground or preparation phase/playable demo computers.
Other written "leaks" are just bullshit and chatgpt generations, especially this long, detailed walls of text. its 11th expansion already, all leaks from Cata to TWW it was like 5-6 sentences of text max. Maybe it will be riddles like WoD was.

[BaumanKing]

I hope everyone who whined about Rootlands and the haranir is happy with this half-baked and unpolished patch.

And what's up with Alleria being so angsty again about being all alone? Wasn't it established a couple patches ago that her golden retriever and their stupid son are always there to support her? It's funny how this entire expansion has given Alleria absolutely no development, despite her being the main character. She starts the expansion as a vengeful loner and ends as a vengeful loner. It feels like an episode of Seinfeld, no one learned anything.

[Wangming]

I hope everyone who whined about Rootlands and the haranir is happy with this half-baked and unpolished patch.

And what's up with Alleria being so angsty again about being all alone? Wasn't it established a couple patches ago that her golden retriever and their stupid son are always there to support her? It's funny how this entire expansion has given Alleria absolutely no development, despite her being the main character. She starts the expansion as a vengeful loner and ends as a vengeful loner. It feels like an episode of Seinfeld, no one learned anything.

Yeah I loved how she vowed to hunt down Xal'atath now.
Bitch what were you doing before?

Unironically, and i can't believe I'm saying this, Undermined was the best part of this expansion.

Also dumb Alleria moments aside, I liked Azj-Kahet. It looked more like how I imagined Ny'alotha than what we got as Ny'alotha.

[Cheezits]

Yeah I also feel we don't have a legit one. All the leaks are too unimaginative to be real.
The one with Outland destroyed has the best chance.

Outland being destroyed as Xal travels to Azeroth would be very clever as it funnels a ton of Outland races to Azeroth just in time for TBC 3.0.

Extra Draenei and High Elves, Broken, Arrakoa who already have a light and void theme, even more Ogres. Even intelligent Ogres from Ogri'la.

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I hope everyone who whined about Rootlands and the haranir is happy with this half-baked and unpolished patch.

I am happy with an emergency patch if it means a return to the old world. Launch and Undermine were very strong and if the next expansion launches in January/Feb, with remix, a new gamemode, and housing inbetween, then I understand why not much priority was given to this patch.

I have zero interest in Elun'ahir and Avaloren especially when the former is ridiculously derivative of Amirdrassil and the Emerald Dream, especially so with its protectors being... you guessed it.... a purple elf thing. Really Steve? Not Tortollans, not a dino race, nope, more nature elves.

I would be fine if it was scrapped but it will likely be in TLT, under Sholozar or Un'goro.

[Ersula]

Outland being destroyed as Xal travels to Azeroth would be very clever as it funnels a ton of Outland races to Azeroth just in time for TBC 3.0.

Extra Draenei and High Elves, Broken, Arrakoa who already have a light and void theme, even more Ogres.

What in the inflation fetish? Does she turn into a planet or something? Yeah the Draenei & Elves gives TBC but we're not committing to it that hard. Legion was also TBC so actually its 4.0

[Cheezits]

What in the inflation fetish? Does she turn into a planet or something? Yeah the Draenei & Elves gives TBC but we're not committing to it that hard.

If Xal needs an extra power up before she attacks Azeroth, draining Outlands would make sense as the planet is already weak.

I also forgot that it would probably bring in a new group of Ethereals.

Legion was also TBC so actually its 4.0

TBC
Legion TBC 2.0
Midnight TBC 3.0

I am not counting WoD here but yeah, if you do, 4.0.

[13last]

Somehow, Danuser returned.

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I'm gonna guess all the leaks are incorrect, with the Horde Velf/Troll DH one having a 5% chance of being correct. TWW was only leaked by accident a few minutes before so they probably are locked up tight.

Troll DH one being your 5%? Come on dude why would a troll DH be a thing? It's the most fanfic thing ever, Elves are not gonna teach DHs to non elven races first, we technically have almost 100% confirmation that'll we have void elves DH.

My 5% is the leak with High Elf Amani trolls - given that Blizzard themselves released shorts with both of those races in their respective Orgri/SW backgrounds but it's to detailed to be true.

I'm willing to bet Monday there'll be some posters leak when they are getting ready.

[bruxx]

Come on dude why would a troll DH be a thing? It's the most fanfic thing ever, Elves are not gonna teach DHs to non elven races first, we technically have almost 100% confirmation that'll we have void elves DH.

Why not? I have absolutely no horse in this race, but I always took the illidari for a group that cares for power over background.

[johnny download]

Do we think Archeology will return revamped?

lol jk :'(

[Capivara]

If ethereals are really coming as playable race, there racial mount would be ethereal camels?

[Cheezits]

Troll DH one being your 5%? Come on dude why would a troll DH be a thing? It's the most fanfic thing ever, Elves are not gonna teach DHs to non elven races first, we technically have almost 100% confirmation that'll we have void elves DH.

My 5% is the leak with High Elf Amani trolls - given that Blizzard themselves released shorts with both of those races in their respective Orgri/SW backgrounds but it's to detailed to be true.

There's a lot of leaks with that, including the one I mentioned. The leak I'm talking about mentions new customizations for Trolls, which could be the bulky Amani/Drakkari body, making it barbershop instead of a new AR.

I can see Troll DH being a non-Illidari/elf DH option with some lore about how the Amani have been fighting off demons/void forever due to their isolationism.

[Wangming]

If Xal needs an extra power up before she attacks Azeroth, draining Outlands would make sense as the planet is already weak.

I also forgot that it would probably bring in a new group of Ethereals.



TBC
Legion TBC 2.0
Midnight TBC 3.0

I am not counting WoD here but yeah, if you do, 4.0.

Or she could use whatever is left of Outland as a projectile and throw it at Azeroth.

[Cheezits]

If ethereals are really coming as playable race, there racial mount would be ethereal camels?

Probably, as they had the audacity to pick a question about them and say "uhhh they aren't in 11.2 but-". Otherwise why let the interviewer bring them up?

[Ersula]

I have zero interest in Elun'ahir and Avaloren especially when the former is ridiculously derivative of Amirdrassil and the Emerald Dream, especially so with its protectors being... you guessed it.... a purple elf thing. Really Steve? Not Tortollans, not a dino race, nope, more nature elves.

My current prediction is that the harronir don't show up again, and they end up being the same race of proto-trolls that the Arathi have been at war with in Avaloren. (Post-worldsoul-saga plotline) I honestly think they planned on using some other, new race for that but now without the rootlands zone atm they serve no purpose.

Plus I like the idea that the other side of Azeroth is like this alternate version of WoW's history where the Alliance went to war with the Night Elves

TBC
Legion TBC 2.0
Midnight TBC 3.0

I am not counting WoD here but yeah, if you do, 4.0.

Why in the world would you not count the deliberate Draenor nostalgia tour as a TBC rehash??

[Monkal]

Troll DH one being your 5%? Come on dude why would a troll DH be a thing? It's the most fanfic thing ever, Elves are not gonna teach DHs to non elven races first, we technically have almost 100% confirmation that'll we have void elves DH.

My 5% is the leak with High Elf Amani trolls - given that Blizzard themselves released shorts with both of those races in their respective Orgri/SW backgrounds but it's to detailed to be true.

I'm willing to bet Monday there'll be some posters leak when they are getting ready.

Zandalari trolls had Diabolists, who were a weird warlock/priest hybrid that absorbed demons into their souls to become more powerful.

Also even shadowhunter can fit the DH archetype if you squeeze hard enough, which I reckon is what blizzard would do instead of leaning on the Zand diabolists.

[13last]

Why not? I have absolutely no horse in this race, but I always took the illidari for a group that cares for power over background.

Agreed on power over background, but DHs are elves only because Illidan didn't trust other races and Elves have high affinity to magic that could withstand the process. A troll might work in that sense since they do have affinity to magic to a degree, but Blizzard usually likes foreshadowing stuff, we have imo confirmation we're gonna have void DHs, we have 0 info/relation for trolls becoming DHs and i doubt a troll would be the first pick from Horde, I'm gonna guess it'll be Nightborne.

Not saying they won't just open up the class to other races as Azeroth is in danger but idk I just don't see Blizzard doing something without proper lore intro.

Zandalari trolls had Diabolists, who were a weird warlock/priest hybrid that absorbed demons into their souls to become more powerful.

Also even shadowhunter can fit the DH archetype if you squeeze hard enough, which I reckon is what blizzard would do instead of leaning on the Zand diabolists.

I don't disagree but imo I do not believe Trolls would be the first race from Horde to be DHs. I don't see it, we have no setup (void DHs have a setup in 11.2) and I think it'll be another elven race first.

[Wangming]

If ethereals are really coming as playable race, there racial mount would be ethereal camels?

They better be.
And all their druid forms too.

[milkmustache]

Probably, as they had the audacity to pick a question about them and say "uhhh they aren't in 11.2 but-". Otherwise why let the interviewer bring them up?

I was also guessing Warp Stalkers, as they're notably absent in mount rewards yet we see them all over.

Though I wouldn't be surprised to see them as the starting hunter pet instead.

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My current prediction is that the harronir don't show up again, and they end up being the same race of proto-trolls that the Arathi have been at war with in Avaloren. (Post-worldsoul-saga plotline) I honestly think they planned on using some other, new race for that but now without the rootlands zone atm they serve no purpose.

Proto trolls in Avaloren? I missed this, where did it come from? Last I remember about proto trolls was pre Djaradin in DF.

[Cheezits]

Agreed on power over background, but DHs are elves only because Illidan didn't trust other races and Elves have high affinity to magic that could withstand the process. A troll might work in that sense since they do have affinity to magic to a degree, but Blizzard usually likes foreshadowing stuff, we have imo confirmation we're gonna have void DHs, we have 0 info/relation for trolls becoming DHs and i doubt a troll would be the first pick from Horde, I'm gonna guess it'll be Nightborne.

Ehhhh, Forsaken and Night Elf paladin is incredibly likely for Midnight, and yet the former hasn't actually been teased (just Calia) and the latter is a singular character from Legion (Delaryn). I think there will be some surprise racial combos like Belf Druid, and Troll DH would definitely fit the bill.

Also, potentially giving them a different meta form that has to do with Loa, akin to the Dinomancer Zandalari druids? Giving them eagle or dragonhawk wings for glide would be sick, or they could be lazy and say bat wings from Hireek.

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I was also guessing Warp Stalkers, as they're notably absent in mount rewards yet we see them all over.

Though I wouldn't be surprised to see them as the starting hunter pet instead.

Good point, but Velf already had the warp stalker hunter pet, so we could get a free Warp Stalker mount from them (the only other one is the TBC shop mount).

Considering how few K'aresh animals there are I could see them going with a TBC animal for hunters, maybe the new nether rays?