Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Super Dickmann]

Blood Elves can get blue eyes, you can group and guild cross-faction and if it's a lore issue, the Blood Elves have been domesticated into just being a high elf recolor with no meaningful tie to their faction for so long that if you were born on May 20 2008, when KJ and that ending became available, you can now drive and in some cases, legally drink and vote.

[Hearthfinder]

Mate, don't start this shit again.
Void Elves ARE High Elves, as a race.
Blood Elves ARE High Elves too.
Even that High Elves who are you talking about ARE High Elves too.

All 3 political factions are High Elves as a race, but only one of them are High Elves by political affiliation.

Heritage name of that people are Thalassian.
Thalassian Nation has a name. And its name is - Blood Elves. Horde side.
There are few traitors who threaten Sunwell and whole Thalassian Nation - Void Elves. Alliance side.
And there are few traitors who don't give a shit about their Thalassian Nation and live somewhere else - they call themselves High Elves (silver covenant, farstriders from EPL or Loch Modan and others). Alliance side.

And one and true Thalassian people are Blood Elves. Its that simple, really.

"Don't start this **** again"

*Goes on to write the most High Elf baity post imaginable*

[Hitei]

Like when? Xe'ra is the only (Light) Naaru that went a little nefarious. T'uure sacrificed itself to save a planet. K'ara, D'ore and K'ure protected the Draenei for millenia so they could escape the Legion. L'ura sacrificed itself to buy time so they could flee Argus. And the rest have only ever been chill.

It is hypothetical, not a reference to a specific previous event.

The point is that "everyone besides Xe'ra is okay, Xe'ra is just an asshole" isn't necessarily the correct understanding, because the situations we've ended up in so far have generally made it easy for the naaru to be on our side. Would the average naaru help the Arakkoa Outcasts on Draenor? Or just happily join the Adherents of Rukhmar in burning down their villages because the outcasts use shadow magic? If they had shown up to an Azeroth free of the Legion's shadow and encountered Night Elves worshipping a Life night deity and trolls worshipping Loa would they have been cool or started trying to convert people? If the naaru show up to Midnight and decide that Azeroth's worldsoul should be Lightforged, and we go "No thanks, we're good" are they going to be okay with that or try to push the issue?

Xe'ra stands out because through Alleria and Illidan's existence we were able to see what Xe'ra was like when people weren't just nodding along and doing whatever she said. But what is A'dal like when people aren't Blood Elves kneeling before him or Draenei worshipping him or helpful adventurers? What are K'iru or Xi'ri like when the thing they are trying to get rid of isn't the Legion or Illidari?

Z'rali, the naaru who was captured by the Venthyr during the Light's assault on Revendreth has this to say:

Home. It calls to me, mortal. And yet, I will never know its warmth again.
My kind would not perceive me as I was. They would see only an aberration. Fractured. Tainted by the touch of this realm's dark Master.
Now there is but one path before me. To ensure the Light is felt here. That justice is rendered. And that Death is made to know its place.
So here I remain. Bound by duty. Until my last flicker fades away.

The game pretty consistently relays the idea that the Light and Light creatures are zealous. Xe'ra isn't an exception to the rule, she's the figurehead. We get told that they are narrow-minded not only by they themselves (as above) but also by the Void, who embraces that they are two sides of the same thing but who maintains that the naaru do not see it that way.

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is this fake?

Yes. If for no other reason than "Shadow World".

[Makorus]

It is hypothetical, not a reference to a specific previous event.

The point is that "everyone besides Xe'ra is okay, Xe'ra is just an asshole" isn't necessarily the correct understanding, because the situations we've ended up in so far have generally made it easy for the naaru to be on our side. Would the average naaru help the Arakkoa Outcasts on Draenor? Or just happily join the Adherents of Rukhmar in burning down their villages because the outcasts use shadow magic? If they had shown up to an Azeroth free of the Legion's shadow and encountered Night Elves worshipping a Life night deity and trolls worshipping Loa would they have been cool or started trying to convert people? If the naaru show up to Midnight and decide that Azeroth's worldsoul should be Lightforged, and we go "No thanks, we're good" are they going to be okay with that or try to push the issue?

Xe'ra stands out because through Alleria and Illidan's existence we were able to see what Xe'ra was like when people weren't just nodding along and doing whatever she said. But what is A'dal like when people aren't Blood Elves kneeling before him or Draenei worshipping him or helpful adventurers? What are K'iru or Xi'ri like when the thing they are trying to get rid of isn't the Legion or Illidari?

Z'rali, the naaru who was captured by the Venthyr during the Light's assault on Revendreth has this to say:


The game pretty consistently relays the idea that the Light and Light creatures are zealous. Xe'ra isn't an exception to the rule, she's the figurehead. We get told that they are narrow-minded not only by they themselves (as above) but also by the Void, who embraces that they are two sides of the same thing but who maintains that the naaru do not see it that way.

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Yes. If for no other reason than "Shadow World".

I think a big issue with Naaru is that most of them are from TBC, which has the problem of being poorly written and comically black and white. Most Naaru since have a bit of subtlety to them that paints their race in a less than ideal light.

[Mecheon]

That's like saying that Amani Trolls aren't going to happen because they will just add green skins to Darkspear Trolls.

I couldn't imagine the outrage from everyone in here if that happened.

Void Elves are not HEs. Blood Elves are HEs but not Alliance.

Amani are bigger and bulkier than Darkspear. HElves and VElves aren't, outside of hairstyle.

They could have done something to visually make them distinctive, but the chance for that was in BFA and we got the tentacle hairs in response.

Blizz relented and gave the non-void options, so if they're going to build off anything, that's where they'd build. They're not going to give us Eredar or Wildhammer given they're already functionally playable, we're not getting a whole separate HElf given VElves are just being used as HElf stand ins by like, 75% of the people who play them

[omghypelevel9000]

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midnight leaked. HYPE.

[Hearthfinder]

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midnight leaked. HYPE.

Yeah, not clicking that.

[Mecheon]

midnight leaked. HYPE.

nice untextured background that doesn't match how blizzard format their websites. You know they have that little bit of texture to 'em rather than being a flat colour, right?

Points for continuity, but also, stop trying to make fetch/your earlier leak that was immediately shot down happen

Besides, we're in 'leak from convention center set up' territory right now, not website leaks. Remember those titan orbs from Dragonflight speculation?

[Makorus]

Yeah, not clicking that.

This is the picture.

Clearly fake.



Like, what logic is that? Someone made a fake post, and then someone made a fake picture based on it, and that somehow means it's real?

The biggest red flag is still "PVP zone".

[blaatschaap]

I wish it were real tho. Just for the fun of blizzard trying to balance combo classes. When they can't even balance what they have now

[Pyrophax]

"Don't start this **** again"

*Goes on to write the most High Elf baity post imaginable*

Not a word of lie, actually.
People just don't get idea of nations nowadays and how its different from races.
American people could be same as Canadian ones, but different nations.
German people could be same as Austrian (not Australian) - but different nations.
Ukrainian people could be same as Belarusian - but different nations.
Russian could be same as Mongolian - but different nations.

Blood Elves could be same as High and Void Elves - but different nations.

Amani are bigger and bulkier than Darkspear. HElves and VElves aren't, outside of hairstyle.

They could have done something to visually make them distinctive, but the chance for that was in BFA and we got the tentacle hairs in response.

Blizz relented and gave the non-void options, so if they're going to build off anything, that's where they'd build. They're not going to give us Eredar or Wildhammer given they're already functionally playable, we're not getting a whole separate HElf given VElves are just being used as HElf stand ins by like, 75% of the people who play them

Double this.

[Wyrt]

Ah yeah, I'm sure we'll get 78 possible class combinations. Really simple and easy for Blizzard to create unique, interesting, and balanced play styles for all of them. 100% legit

[blaatschaap]

We need admins to step in to stop this pointless blood elf high elf "debate". You are just repeating the same points back and forth for 5 pages.

[Makorus]

I wish it were real tho. Just for the fun of blizzard trying to balance combo classes. When they can't even balance what they have now

People love to say that, but WoW balancing has been really good. There's a few outliers here and there, but in the grand scheme of things, it's incredibly balanced.

Conceptually, "Create your own class" is just a shitty concept that sounds more cool than it would be and wouldn't work for any multiplayer game.

[entermidnight]

hello everyone

i have received info from a midnight press kit this morning. i will share with you guys since you have been desperate for leaks and making fakes

midnight has standard features like level 90 and new zones in the quel'thalas continent

the large part that standed out was things like: runewarden class and the runes system. looks like blood elf runes that you can add on your player for talents like glyph but with trees below them.

high elf was a neutral race

i didnt see anything of ethereals and demon hunters sorry

[Samin]

The Elder Scrolls Online recently did something similar in regards to partially combining different classes, so it might not be completely implausible.

Also makes it more likely that that's what inspired the faker.

[Makorus]

The Elder Scrolls Online recently did something similar in regards to partially combining different classes, so it might not be completely implausible.

The difference is that ESO only has half the classes, and also, Subclassing is pretty much hated by everyone in the community.

[Merryck]

I honestly feel embarrassed reading fake leaks, not going to lie.

[Wyrt]

runewarden class

So like arcane runes? Does it involve prismatic elf swords? Those had arcane runes on them.

[Makorus]

I honestly feel embarrassed reading fake leaks, not going to lie.

This leak season only had the worst part of it, which is shitty text leaks based on stuff people discussed 20 pages ago, which somehow everyone gobbles up as the truth.

Where's the Stormwind harbours or Tel'abim crates?