Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[KyleEverett]

Yeah it had been pointed out earlier. I think wowhead may have made a post about it too. Very...quick turn around on the next expansion. Very concerned for the artists.

Based on interviews, artists are already working on TLT if not 13.1. Midnight art should all be done already.

I believe Prepatch should be Jan 20th, expansion a month later, and season 1 in early March.

[Hitei]

These are by far the most interesting pieces of recent datamining. Remind me-- are these two customizable? Or just the Panthera one?

Those two seem to just be normal. Or at least, they aren't currently attached to new entries in character customization, which is what I assume Marlamin is using as the indication that it's the customizable type mount.

[Cheezits]

Yeah it had been pointed out earlier. I think wowhead may have made a post about it too. Very...quick turn around on the next expansion. Very concerned for the artists.

Seeing as the bulk of Launch and perhaps 11.1 TWW seemed to be complete, and K'aresh was made with a lot of reused assets, I'm not too worried about the artists. They definitely pivoted them to Midnight and TLT when the saga idea was first concepted.

[Eldryth]

Dunno if it's been noted anywhere but there's tentative dates for remix in the holiday table, starting Oct 7, ending Jan 16?

It ends on Jan 19th, not 16th, but otherwise correct.

MoP Remix ended just one week before TWW launched, so maybe they're aiming for a January 27th release? Though I thought I was already being optimistic hoping for a February release.

[KyleEverett]

It ends on Jan 19th, not 16th, but otherwise correct.

MoP Remix ended just one week before TWW launched, so maybe they're aiming for a January 27th release? Though I thought I was already being optimistic hoping for a February release.

I think Remix ends with Prepatch this time because Midnight and 12.0 comes with a stat squish.

[Paula Deen]

Seeing as the bulk of Launch and perhaps 11.1 TWW seemed to be complete, and K'aresh was made with a lot of reused assets, I'm not too worried about the artists. They definitely pivoted them to Midnight and TLT when the saga idea was first concepted.

This is a really good point. Thanks for easing me.

[Hitei]

It ends on Jan 19th, not 16th, but otherwise correct.

MoP Remix ended just one week before TWW launched, so maybe they're aiming for a January 27th release? Though I thought I was already being optimistic hoping for a February release.

16 is just what the table says, I didn't check what the actual tuesday was.

I always thought February was the likely bet rather than optimistic. They restructured the entire wow team for the purposes of faster expansions with the goal of finishing WSS before 2030, and that meant we we were likely going to move from 2 year expansions to 18 month ones, which meant the first couple months of 2026 for Midnight.

[Joshuaj]

We're going to be going to Argus in November, I think a customizable Panthera we can use while grounded on Argus Remix sounds like a cool reward.

Imagine we get some crazy cool Demon-based stuff we didn't get to see prior in Argus remix.

[Hitei]

I was hoping we might get access to the other lean emotes in 11.2.5, but it seems like it'll be a while.

Hey content creators if you see this post, go bug the devs about giving us access to those.

[KainneAbsolute]

I think Blizzard wants to replicate the Legion's success. So I expect the following for Midnight:

- New class or race: We had DH for Legion, ethereals for Midnight?
- Something for all the classes: in Legion, we had class order halls. Perhaps for Midnight, we can introduce improvements to the heroic classes or specs.
- Something related with items: in Legion, we had artifacts and legiondaries. For Midnight, are we getting corrupted items? Light items? Balance light and void in our gear?
- Dungeons: In Legion, we got Mythic+ Dungeons. For Midnight, Mythic+ Delves? Mythic+ raids? a new group activity?
- Open world: In Legion, we got World quests. For Midnight, we get world tiers? (like Diablo or Legion Remix?)
- Mounts: In Legion, we got order hall mounts. For Midnight, we get ground mounts with special abilities or customization?
- And of course, housing

[Magistrate]

I think Blizzard wants to replicate the Legion's success. So I expect the following for Midnight:

- New class or race: We had DH for Legion, ethereals for Midnight?
- Something for all the classes: in Legion, we had class order halls. Perhaps for Midnight, we can introduce improvements to the heroic classes or specs.
- Something related with items: in Legion, we had artifacts and legiondaries. For Midnight, are we getting corrupted items? Light items? Balance light and void in our gear?
- Dungeons: In Legion, we got Mythic+ Dungeons. For Midnight, Mythic+ Delves? Mythic+ raids? a new group activity?
- Open world: In Legion, we got World quests. For Midnight, we get world tiers? (like Diablo or Legion Remix?)
- Mounts: In Legion, we got order hall mounts. For Midnight, we get ground mounts with special abilities or customization?
- And of course, housing

I stg when we get 12.0 and (to no body's surprise (again)) there are no playable ethereals, the goal post will be moved to 12.0.5, then 12.0.7, then the REAL PLAN (all along, obviously!) will be for sure 12.1, then that won't pan out and OBVIOUSLY it was 12.1.5 all along! 12.1.7! 12.2! actually TLA is the ethereal expansion!

the sheer copium is insane

[Wyrt]

I think Blizzard wants to replicate the Legion's success. So I expect the following for Midnight:

- New class or race: We had DH for Legion, ethereals for Midnight?
- Something for all the classes: in Legion, we had class order halls. Perhaps for Midnight, we can introduce improvements to the heroic classes or specs.
- Something related with items: in Legion, we had artifacts and legiondaries. For Midnight, are we getting corrupted items? Light items? Balance light and void in our gear?
- Dungeons: In Legion, we got Mythic+ Dungeons. For Midnight, Mythic+ Delves? Mythic+ raids? a new group activity?
- Open world: In Legion, we got World quests. For Midnight, we get world tiers? (like Diablo or Legion Remix?)
- Mounts: In Legion, we got order hall mounts. For Midnight, we get ground mounts with special abilities or customization?
- And of course, housing

If they're to emulate Legion then we'd get a void themed class based on Alleria since she's almost certainly going to be the key art character for the expansion like Illidan was in Legion.

[The-Shan]

some new cool nightborne transmog in legion remix!!




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You don't need to level up a character to max to get their classes' fel mount, too! You can just buy them with bronze. (perfect if 5 new slots isnt enough for you)

[Super Dickmann]

Bob's only hope is that he's too niche to kill, but being in a cinematic alone while being niche is a death sentence. Godspeed, good prince, for the Shadowlands to TWW stretch, you were the longest running Horde leader still in power. With you gone, the longest running Horde leader (exempting Green Jesus) becomes fucking Baine, followed closely by that stalwart bulwark Ji Firepaw.

[Paula Deen]

some new cool nightborne transmog in legion remix!!


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You don't need to level up a character to max to get their classes' fel mount, too! You can just buy them with bronze. (perfect if 5 new slots isnt enough for you)

This is great. I was already prepping for the threads of whining about having to level 12 classes.

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Bob's only hope is that he's too niche to kill, but being in a cinematic alone while being niche is a death sentence. Godspeed, good prince, for the Shadowlands to TWW stretch, you were the longest running Horde leader still in power. With you gone, the longest running Horde leader (exempting Green Jesus) becomes fucking Baine, followed closely by that stalwart bulwark Ji Firepaw.

I really REALLY doubt they are gonna kill Lorthremar. He just got married and it would be super mean spirited to kill him. Not in a fun way, killing Varian made perfect sense. Vol'jin fit too. I think its more fitting that we see her keep true to her word and kill someone dear to Alleria.

[The-Shan]

This is great. I was already prepping for the threads of whining about having to level 12 classes.

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I really REALLY doubt they are gonna kill Lorthremar. He just got married and it would be super mean spirited to kill him. Not in a fun way, killing Varian made perfect sense. Vol'jin fit too. I think its more fitting that we see her keep true to her word and kill someone dear to Alleria.

I've seen people looking disappointed that they'd have to delete characters to get all of them, too. Luckily thatiisn't the case. I have almost 3k bronze as you can see too, and I've only leveled up twice, lol. Each of these mounts is 10k. Either the bronze acquisition is going to need adjustment, or you'll have these mounts all done by max level.

[Super Dickmann]

I really REALLY doubt they are gonna kill Lorthremar. He just got married and it would be super mean spirited to kill him. Not in a fun way, killing Varian made perfect sense. Vol'jin fit too. I think its more fitting that we see her keep true to her word and kill someone dear to Alleria.

There's no real replacement set up for him (unless you count Alleria herself, in the Calia vein of leadership replacement via frontal lobotomy) but that didn't stop them regarding Vol'jin or hell, even Garrosh. And killing him for pathos to give Thalyssra a bigger hook than "she's an ally to the Blood Elves and his wife" isn't out of left field for them.

Failing that though, the alternative is that he joins other niche character Bolvar in being left alive, maybe with Alleria interrupting Xal. The character to kill here for the sake of Alleria's arc is either Turalyon or Arator. The Blood elf co-leader to kill for this meanwhile is literally anyone else. Halduron would be an excellent pick, as would Liadrin, with Halduron having the extra benefit that if the Sunwell blows up, Romath and Liadrin would have something to do as the only TBC blood elf standing and the original Blood Knight, whereas Halduron was trying to get Vereesa in back in Ghostlands, so killing him would have you able to pump up the tension between purple and regular elves before they inevitably shake hands.

[Ersula]

I got the big payoff that Beledar was just a crystal. The expansion is over & it wasn't a ship or anything.

[The-Shan]

I got the big payoff that Beledar was just a crystal. The expansion is over & it wasn't a ship or anything.

I think it was said that it was naturally occurring to Azeroth, since it projects the radiant song.

[Super Dickmann]

I got the big payoff that Beledar was just a crystal. The expansion is over & it wasn't a ship or anything.

It was obviously planned to be a ship at some point, hence the identical design, but got rewritten.